(14-Mar-2024, 04:58 PM)Zheroz00 Wrote: These goggles appealed to me because of the size, HDMI in/out, and analog in. I could have everything I need in one set of goggles. I had this with hdz, but I preferred the image from the avatar. That was mainly why I was wondering if I would get at least what I have now performance-wise. Is that analog-in issue something that can be fixed via software, or is it a hardware thing?

The HDMI in socket is badly designed which requires a special cable with a slim connector on it, or you need to hack up the HDMI plug on one of your existing cables to make it fit. The HDMI out socket is fine with no modified cables required.

While the fake snow might be fixable in software to some extent, the lack of DVR recording from an analog input feed isn't and to me that is a deal-breaker if you are serious about using them for analog flying because even if you don't intend to use any of the DVR footage, recording flights in the goggles is a must IMO so you can play back and use the footage to help you try and locate your quad if it goes down.

As far as the goggle performance of the Goggles X goes, reports are that it seems to be on par with the V1 goggles other than the issue with overheating in some climates / environments and reduced signal strength if the heatsink is fitted.

Hopefully Caddx will manage to get things right for Goggles X V2

Well, Ian certainly didn't mince his words about his thoughts on the current situation with the Goggles X on his live stream tonight  You can see the discussion section on that at 48:44 into the stream which runs until 01:01:18 (so just short of 15 minutes in total).

Wowsers. I have no idea who this pilot is but his video linked to below just popped up in my feed. I've seen a few rants about the Walksnail gear but this has to be the worst one yet. The comments under the video from other users experiences of the same also speaks volumes. It seems to be a completely mixed bag and down to a lottery as to whether you end up having a good or bad experience. He even mentions his frustration at having to rely on getting information from users on Facebook groups because nothing is documented properly which is exactly what I was saying in another post HERE. I wonder if all these recent frustrations from people are caused specifically by the poor design of the new Goggles X or if it's the system as a whole. Firmware updates also still seem to be a lottery with different things going backwards or getting borked following every new firmware release.

You can almost hear the frustration in his voice lol

I'm glad my 1st generation stuff still works, for the most part.

Think I'll focus on a better analog goggle setup this year - I sent enough $$ to WalkSnail last year.
Time to give FatShark, Skyzone, or other, some lovin'

Thanks for posting.

It seems there is quite a mix of different experiences with the WS system. Don't know if those VTX issues he mentioned are specific for the Goggles X. I only have two of the larger VTXs (V2 with single antenna) and not noted any issues, but they are on the older firmware and I don't really fly them a lot (still prefer the vista on larger setups). I fly mostly the 1S VTX, and it seems that pilot mentioned at the end of his video those vtxs worked "great" for him. I have probably more than a dozen builds with the 1S VTX (stocked up when they went on sale for $50), 2 died on the second flight without any crashes (replaced by WS) and another one I damaged while installing, but all others are still working well so far.

Hit or miss seems to be the common assumption here.

You get what you get

I thought the "dumpster fire" guy got pretty carried away toward the end of his video. It just became a rant and I tuned out. In his defense I think he was pretty unlucky. But any of us who have been doing this a long time know perfection does not really exist and especially with a new product you can't let it ruin your day. Sell the lot and move on, or send it all to CaddX and see if they replace it all.

I've had a fairly good time with it, but I've not bought any of their goggles yet. Been patiently waiting to see if the next set lacks any serious screw ups and if it'll include their magical claim of 4x range. I know full well there have been piles of issues and I'm not committing 100% until they get it all sorted.

Yeah, I was chuffed when I got back into FPV just as the Walksnail "answer to all your prayers" GogglesX came out, "what could possibly go wrong?" LOL I had 3 air units and a BNF before the goggles were even delivered! Let's just say I've "cooled off" on their GogglesX now, I really feel like they put one over on me. But after all the negative reviews, epic fails, and broken promises, I gotta say, I am having a blast flying my Walksnail equipped quads, that's gotta be worth something. Deep down I feel like they are a flawed company trying to do a good job, and succeeding on a certain level.

Although I might sometimes seem to come across a bit negative about the Walksnail gear, it's probably the best "all round" digital gear for FPV for anyone who is looking to go the digital route. It's just that Caddx do need to be called out and held to account for all the broken promises they make and their apparent drive to release yet another VTX version every other month without bothering to spend time ironing out and fixing all the firmware bugs that have existed for a long time and new bugs that seem to get introduced with every firmware release making updating to newer firmware a complete lottery. These things mean that the whole system can still only be classed as an expensive beta product almost 2 years on from it's initial release. It's a shame that Caddx don't just scale back on the constant new hardware releases and concentrate on getting the current hardware into a consistent stable working state first.

I hear you.
And today was a total disaster for me and my Walksnail GogglesX. I experienced OSD freezing, inability to connect to vtx, black screens, and frozen video images with two quads today that have never given me trouble before. The same symptoms as I observed with another quad months ago. I now know why I lost that 5" to a frozen screen at high altitude on its maiden flight, it wasn't the unproven Emuflight flash (to a Heliospring FC) it's the goggles. I flew that one with an older update, the older heatsink, and a different SD card. After 4 hours of searching I found it but haven't flown it since because of the symptoms I observed today with my other quads. The two today were with the new heatsink and the latest update. So, suddenly, I have three different quads, a BNF with a Mini 1s Lite Kit, a 3.5 build with an HD Nano Kit V3, and the 5' build with a HD Kit V2, and with all of them the GogglesX will either work, work for a little while then have OSD data freeze but video feed continue, or have the video feed freeze while flying. During initial connection it will either connect, connect giving OSD data but without video, or connect briefly and then go to a black screen. I experienced all of these symptoms today. And for the first time with two quads that have a hundred flights between them. I guess my GogglesX will have to be returned for service.

BTW There's a great old book "The Soul Of A New Machine" by Tracy Kidder. I think it won a Pulitzer Prize. It is all about marketing and selling personal computers before they were ready, just battling to stay in business.

(01-Apr-2024, 04:45 AM)husafreak Wrote: And today was a total disaster for me and my Walksnail GogglesX. I experienced OSD freezing, inability to connect to vtx, black screens, and frozen video images with two quads today that have never given me trouble before. The same symptoms as I observed with another quad months ago. I now know why I lost that 5" to a frozen screen at high altitude on its maiden flight, it wasn't the unproven Emuflight flash (to a Heliospring FC) it's the goggles. I flew that one with an older update, the older heatsink, and a different SD card. After 4 hours of searching I found it but haven't flown it since because of the symptoms I observed today with my other quads. The two today were with the new heatsink and the latest update. So, suddenly, I have three different quads, a BNF with a Mini 1s Lite Kit, a 3.5 build with an HD Nano Kit V3, and the 5' build with a HD Kit V2, and with all of them the GogglesX will either work, work for a little while then have OSD data freeze but video feed continue, or have the video feed freeze while flying. During initial connection it will either connect, connect giving OSD data but without video, or connect briefly and then go to a black screen. I experienced all of these symptoms today. And for the first time with two quads that have a hundred flights between them. I guess my GogglesX will have to be returned for service.

There's a great old book "The Soul Of A New Machine" by Tracy Kidder. It is all about marketing and selling computers before they were ready.

^^^^^ This is exactly what I'm talking about. It seems to be like rolling the dice every time you go out to fly with a risk of losing one or more of your quads every time you do that. I've seen plenty of other reports of the same or similar issues on social media so it doesn't seem to be isolated. With the current situation I don't see how anyone can have any kind of real confidence in flying the system when you could just randomly lose your video feed (and your quad) in the blink of an eye. Anything that involves flying further away than a few hundred metres just seems to be a massive risk.

Unfortunately sticking with a known working firmware version isn't a viable long term solution because you then miss out on the promised missing functionality and "fixes" that Caddx included in any newer firmware, and when Caddx release V13 of their VTX or their next new Infrared Moon Day HDMI kit invention that won't run on older firmware it means that when you next buy a new VTX or a BNF quad with a newer Walksnail VTX in it you are then forced to update your goggles and also all of your other VTX's to keep them compatible and in sync with the goggles firmware. As it currently stands, the whole Walksnail ecosystem still seems to be in a complete unstable mess with the whole Walksnail customer base just having been duped by Caddx into being a free testbed for their products at the customer's expense. They also seem to have way too many "sponsored pilots" who get free products and who just seem to be constantly shilling the system in an attempt to water down or refute the issues that real customers appear to be having.

This is terrible !

I’m also not a fan of the firmware circus. Buy a new camera that requires a firmware update on the quad and the goggles. But then goggles are out of sync with your other quads, so you update them as well. Then you find out there’s an issue (or more) with that firmware - now all of your quads suck. So you go back and play games to downgrade them to a known stable version, but now that new camera thinks your red car is bright orange Is Walksnail by chance using the same business model as Altium Designer software ??

Sorry you’re going thru this misery Husafreak …

Thanks guys. I don't really do social media but I will have to, to keep up with whatever issues people are having. But thanks for bringing me up to speed in one post! Before I get into that I have to ask, do the old Fatshark Walksnail goggles have these issues too or is it just the new GogglesX? Because today, if I knew or thought the Fatshark goggles were not having these inflight issues, I would buy a pair.
I know that doesn't fix the constant fleet wise update SNAFU but if it is a hardware issue only with the new GogglesX I'll bail on them. I've already spent about 8 hours searching for quads and hate the feeling that I can't leave the parking lot I launch in

BTW, this intoFPV forum is one of the nicest enthusiast groups I have ever joined, maybe quads keep us humble...

I had decided I'd most likely go digital this season and I was hoping WS would have there their game together as we enter spring... Maybe next season.