Posts: 65 Threads: 5 Likes Received: 5 in 5 posts Likes Given: 11 Joined: Mar 2020 Reputation: 0 Hello, I'm going to upgrade my goggles antennas and on drone antenna. I was planning to get lumenier AxII 2 but recently it is not available in my country. Do you guys have any experience with this antenna? TrueRC Singularity 5.8 Will it be big difference between this and lumenier? Should I wait for lumenier? For path antenna i will get : TrueRC X-Air 5.8 • Posts: 12,099 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 You will not go wrong with the TruRC. They make great antennas. Posts: 65 Threads: 5 Likes Received: 5 in 5 posts Likes Given: 11 Joined: Mar 2020 Reputation: 0 I get this antennas yesterday, today was first test flight, and I'm quite disappointed. I dont know is that possible i get failure antennas, or it's too short for my build? I will upload some videos to show difference between setupsin DVR. Here are tested antennas: My old one which i get with goggles: And new TrueRC Singularity: This new is smaller, but before i was using even shorter antenna from Iflight ant it perform better than this TrueRC. I upload unedited videos, just watch first minute and u will see difference. 1st movie: ImmersionRC on goggles TrueRC on drone: 2nd movie TrueRC on goggles and TrueRC on drone: 3rd movie TrueRC on goggle and ImmersionRC on drone: This tree stands about 40m from me, and i get breakups with new antennas when i fly behind it. As you see, best results are with TrueRC on goggles and ImmersionRC on drone. But is the length only factor that matter here? I fly with low uptilt, about 27 deg, but some ppl fly with stubby on drone, or short Foxxer lollipop3 and it works. Is that possible that used video channel makes so big difference according to antena? I'm flying on F1 channel. • Posts: 12,099 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 Frequency do make a slight difference but it is probably nothing you can notice. Does not hurt to try, but likely just wasting your time. You can get an analyzer and see what frequency all you antenna is tuned to and pick a channel as close as possible to that. You can also talk about antenna positions. I think we can sit here and argue all day and there likely will not be consensus. The longer the length, the further it is away from the CF frame. Which is better. But when is long too long. That last video does look the best. People fly with a lot of things and fly with a lot worse video. I would be happy with the last result. I see that you are using 200mW. Can you go higher? • Posts: 65 Threads: 5 Likes Received: 5 in 5 posts Likes Given: 11 Joined: Mar 2020 Reputation: 0 I'm using 200mW to compare to old antennas when i used 200mW too. I have option to go up to 500mW and 800mW, not tried yet though. I will test more tommorow. Maybe i will bend antenna up a little bit, and change power to 500mW. I'm just surprised that i don't see any upgrade and even degradation of video signal with this new, not cheap antennas. And I can not imagine to do for example bandos with this setup. If tree can do breakups, what with walls Thanks for advices, I will report after tommorows flying • Posts: 12,099 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 15-Apr-2020, 10:32 PM (This post was last modified: 15-Apr-2020, 10:33 PM by voodoo614.) You actually want low power settings of 25mW for bandos. You get too much multipaths using high power. Regardless, that Spiro antenna is a good performer. It got too big, so a lot of people turned to the smaller form factor. That is how AXII and stubby got so popular. For me, I am a cheapo. I like my diy Pagoda antenna. I don't feel bad when I break them. Well, give the higher power a try. • Posts: 4,731 Threads: 392 Likes Received: 3,231 in 1,827 posts Likes Given: 3,214 Joined: Apr 2019 Reputation: 101 16-Apr-2020, 01:23 AM (This post was last modified: 16-Apr-2020, 01:23 AM by the.ronin.) I used the mmcx version and just from my won experience with it was not happy at all. In comparison, a TBS Triumph (also mmcx) performed much better. This was in a medium-range setting in a high noise environment. An ORT Pagoda (also mmcx) performed even better but I wouldn't use it for a freestyle build since it seems fragile. I would tend to agree though those old school cheapy spiro antennas perform really well for their age. • Posts: 3,533 Threads: 265 Likes Received: 2,610 in 1,545 posts Likes Given: 3,893 Joined: Feb 2018 Reputation: 78 The spiros have poor multipath rejection in my experience. The best brands of antennas seem to be TrueRC and VAS. For freestyle, it doesn't matter much. • Posts: 4,731 Threads: 392 Likes Received: 3,231 in 1,827 posts Likes Given: 3,214 Joined: Apr 2019 Reputation: 101 I'm wondering if using the same brands helps at all? I'm finding that using VAS antennas on my goggles (Crosshair Extremes) with VAS antennas on the VTX (TBS Triumph I believe is actually made by VAS) seem to work much better than using the TrueRC Singularity on the VTX. I wonder what the results would be if I used the TrueRC x2 Air on the goggles with the Singularity. My theory is that any given brand will be using their own brand on rx and vtx so they may tune to that? • Posts: 65 Threads: 5 Likes Received: 5 in 5 posts Likes Given: 11 Joined: Mar 2020 Reputation: 0 If someone would be interested in my test results: I've used additional 4 cm extension cord and then this TrueRc antenna worked good on 200mW. So we could assume the only problem is length of the antenna not its performance. This antenna works also good on 500mW without additional extension. But biggest surprise was when i mount this short Iflight antenna I get with Nazgul5 IFflight. It's over 1 cm shorter than TrueRC singularity, and it perform better on 200mW (on 500mW in my spot they perform without big differences) and it's few times cheaper. Unfortunately i can not order this antenna right now to Norway, I think it's old type of IFlight antenna, because it's not offered even on official IFlight site. So i do not recommend TrueRC Singularity 5.8 RHCP SMA. Maybe it's durable and lightweight, but price is way too much for this performance. • Posts: 3,533 Threads: 265 Likes Received: 2,610 in 1,545 posts Likes Given: 3,893 Joined: Feb 2018 Reputation: 78 (17-Apr-2020, 05:52 PM)Narsil Wrote: If someone would be interested in my test results: I've used additional 4 cm extension cord and then this TrueRc antenna worked good on 200mW. So we could assume the only problem is length of the antenna not its performance. This antenna works also good on 500mW without additional extension. But biggest surprise was when i mount this short Iflight antenna I get with Nazgul5 IFflight. It's over 1 cm shorter than TrueRC singularity, and it perform better on 200mW (on 500mW in my spot they perform without big differences) and it's few times cheaper. Unfortunately i can not order this antenna right now to Norway, I think it's old type of IFlight antenna, because it's not offered even on official IFlight site. So i do not recommend TrueRC Singularity 5.8 RHCP SMA. Maybe it's durable and lightweight, but price is way too much for this performance. I'm not understanding what you are testing for. The reason the TrueRC is longer is for long range and keeping it up and away from things that interfere with the signal, like carbon, batteries, etc. It is a long range antenna, so you will be running power in the 800mW or more. If you are doing freestyle a shorter/smaller antenna is a better choice anyway. So, not sure what your point is. Since you only refer to the TrueRC as a Singularity, there are long and short Singularity for different flying styles, so again, I'm not sure what you are testing for. • Posts: 65 Threads: 5 Likes Received: 5 in 5 posts Likes Given: 11 Joined: Mar 2020 Reputation: 0 I'm testing quality of signal. This antenna is not very long 70mm but still, when i use longer antenna(immersonic) signal is better, when I use shorter antena(Iflight) signal is better, so in my opinion it is not good antenna for this price (23$). • Posts: 3,533 Threads: 265 Likes Received: 2,610 in 1,545 posts Likes Given: 3,893 Joined: Feb 2018 Reputation: 78 (18-Apr-2020, 07:34 PM)Narsil Wrote: I'm testing quality of signal. This antenna is not very long 70mm but still, when i use longer antenna(immersonic) signal is better, when I use shorter antena(Iflight) signal is better, so in my opinion it is not good antenna for this price (23$). Hmmm, still not sure which specific antenna we are talking about as there are many TrueRC antenna models that use the Singularity name. What I can tell you is the long TrueRC antenna is one of the best for signal quality for long range applications. It is neck and neck with the VAS Ion V2 for overall performance. As to price, I really don't care about price. I want the best performance regardless of cost and TrueRC is one of the best. If you are talking about something else, my apologies. I'm still somewhat confused as to what the specifics are in your test. • Posts: 65 Threads: 5 Likes Received: 5 in 5 posts Likes Given: 11 Joined: Mar 2020 Reputation: 0 (18-Apr-2020, 09:21 PM)Krohsis Wrote: Hmmm, still not sure which specific antenna we are talking about as there are many TrueRC antenna models that use the Singularity name. What I can tell you is the long TrueRC antenna is one of the best for signal quality for long range applications. It is neck and neck with the VAS Ion V2 for overall performance. As to price, I really don't care about price. I want the best performance regardless of cost and TrueRC is one of the best. If you are talking about something else, my apologies. I'm still somewhat confused as to what the specifics are in your test. There is link in first post in this topic. I agree, price doesn't matter as long as you get this "best performance", but when u pay 23$ for antenna and it perform worse than 7$ antenna, price is becoming more important for me. • |