Posts: 42 Threads: 9 Likes Received: 15 in 15 posts Likes Given: 287 Joined: Oct 2023 Reputation: 1 11-Jan-2024, 06:53 PM (This post was last modified: 11-Jan-2024, 07:27 PM by samysh.) I give up It became clear to me, I don't know anything I expect that this forum contains people who do not understand or do not know how to give advice I expect that man will be excited at first and want to try everything Man does not know what he/she wants and there is no one to advise him/her in correct way I have paid nearly $600 so far and have not been able to fly yet It includes a drone, drone parts, batteries, a soldering kit, blade, a frame, conpys, chargar and more I bought a Mob7 and it was bad because the VTX broke and AIO not good If I had bought something else, like the Beta 75 Pro, for example, Where external VTX is better I hope it won't be ruined like this I have learned to pay extra money and not to repair or soldering anything I can't soldering or I suspect my soldering kit is bad Every piece I buy comes after a month and I don't fly, and I just pay and wait and the piece is ruined Instead, the kit is very comfortable, i think all togather The diamond arrived and I said I would try soldering it, but after 9 hours of torment between it working and not working, I expect that I have ruined the soldering area and it has become difficult to soldering in the required area. I have learned to buy a RTF kit instead of soldering, or to buy parts that I can install instead of soldering. I am not good at soldering, and I do not want to waste time soldering. I don't know what I will do with the parts I ordered and how I can install them to build cine8 I give up and I don't know what to do :_( Regards, Noob dreams of becoming a FPV pilot ►BUY ANY RTF or BNF KIT IF U R A BEGINNER◄ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (ᵔᴥᵔ) • Posts: 286 Threads: 25 Likes Received: 140 in 109 posts Likes Given: 92 Joined: May 2023 Reputation: 3 11-Jan-2024, 07:33 PM (This post was last modified: 11-Jan-2024, 07:44 PM by skywanderer.) Not everyone is a Tony Stark with building/soldering/repairing, at the beginning... it takes time to get good at anything. It's ok to walk away for a time too. Get other folk's take: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_q...er+fpv+kit ...but seriously, if you want to have any future in this hobby, you must conquer soldering. Thick flux is your friend (gobs of it, part/pad soaking/drowning in it), 63/37 solder is too... then the actual soldering iron. Digitally controlled, accurate temp, decent quality doesn't have to cost a bunch: miniware ts101, shop around for price. Wouldn't hurt to get a medium chisel tip for too... Patience is always desperate when required right now this minute... ...but totally worth waiting for: Posts: 2,358 Threads: 118 Likes Received: 812 in 659 posts Likes Given: 128 Joined: Feb 2021 Reputation: 20 .. don’t give up.. TRUST ME!! Here is why… FPV has.a STEEP learning curve..you WILL break lots of stuff, and burn up many components.. but it pay off in the end!! and at one point you will look forward to crashing / repairing stuff (minus the $).. Be patient, it’s gonna take time… if I can survive this thing ANYONE can.. I couldn’t afford to get started in this hobby but located a full setup from a guy on Facebook that had “given up”. I watched a lot of videos, read a lot of forums, and EVENTYALLY got the quad airborn (non-acro).. flew as much as I could since my old laptop couldn’t run any sim.. Fpv IS as awesome to fly as it appears to be.. but it does take lots of “stick time” and patience.. Your ahead of me in this learning curve you located this forum Posts: 2,468 Threads: 76 Likes Received: 1,370 in 1,025 posts Likes Given: 801 Joined: Apr 2022 Reputation: 41 Find someone to do the soldering for you. That is the immediate solution to your soldering woes. Have them solder up the stuff on the new build. At the same time, buy practice boards and use them. 30 mins a couple of times each week. Buy some (cheap) components and build something, like a radio or Led visual type project, a project unrelated to FPV and more related to improving your electronics and soldering knowledge. Maybe lose the Cinewhoop or nothing mentality. If you bought a BabyApe, you could be in the air flying pretty quickly and they are cheap quads. It runs on 3S. It gives you stick time and right now that's all you need. But when you break it, you need to be able to fix it. So back to the soldering. When you look at buying a quad, you need to look at how modular it is. The downside to highly integrated circuits is they are a pig to repair, so buy stuff in future that isn't so integrated. So if you break the VTX, you simply buy another and replace it. But also accept that things are going to go badly from time to time. At that point you need to walk away for a few days and do something else. Try Not, Do or Do Not - Yoda Posts: 42 Threads: 9 Likes Received: 15 in 15 posts Likes Given: 287 Joined: Oct 2023 Reputation: 1 11-Jan-2024, 10:29 PM (This post was last modified: 11-Jan-2024, 10:33 PM by samysh.) (11-Jan-2024, 08:41 PM)Pathfinder075 Wrote: Find someone to do the soldering for you. That is the immediate solution to your soldering woes. Have them solder up the stuff on the new build. At the same time, buy practice boards and use them. 30 mins a couple of times each week. Buy some (cheap) components and build something, like a radio or Led visual type project, a project unrelated to FPV and more related to improving your electronics and soldering knowledge. Maybe lose the Cinewhoop or nothing mentality. If you bought a BabyApe, you could be in the air flying pretty quickly and they are cheap quads. It runs on 3S. It gives you stick time and right now that's all you need. But when you break it, you need to be able to fix it. So back to the soldering. When you look at buying a quad, you need to look at how modular it is. The downside to highly integrated circuits is they are a pig to repair, so buy stuff in future that isn't so integrated. So if you break the VTX, you simply buy another and replace it. But also accept that things are going to go badly from time to time. At that point you need to walk away for a few days and do something else. Can I send you the pieces to you, and you can soldering them for me? I would be grateful to you If you want money in return, tell me? What is your opinion? ►BUY ANY RTF or BNF KIT IF U R A BEGINNER◄ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (ᵔᴥᵔ) • Posts: 42 Threads: 9 Likes Received: 15 in 15 posts Likes Given: 287 Joined: Oct 2023 Reputation: 1 (11-Jan-2024, 07:36 PM)Rob Axel Wrote: .. don’t give up.. TRUST ME!! Here is why… FPV has.a STEEP learning curve..you WILL break lots of stuff, and burn up many components.. but it pay off in the end!! and at one point you will look forward to crashing / repairing stuff (minus the $).. Be patient, it’s gonna take time… if I can survive this thing ANYONE can.. I couldn’t afford to get started in this hobby but located a full setup from a guy on Facebook that had “given up”. I watched a lot of videos, read a lot of forums, and EVENTYALLY got the quad airborn (non-acro).. flew as much as I could since my old laptop couldn’t run any sim.. Fpv IS as awesome to fly as it appears to be.. but it does take lots of “stick time” and patience.. Your ahead of me in this learning curve you located this forum Thank you for your encouraging words But now I want to fly and I can learn soldering later I'll see what I can do ►BUY ANY RTF or BNF KIT IF U R A BEGINNER◄ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (ᵔᴥᵔ) • Posts: 42 Threads: 9 Likes Received: 15 in 15 posts Likes Given: 287 Joined: Oct 2023 Reputation: 1 (11-Jan-2024, 07:33 PM)skywanderer Wrote: Not everyone is a Tony Stark with building/soldering/repairing, at the beginning... it takes time to get good at anything. It's ok to walk away for a time too. Get other folk's take: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_q...er+fpv+kit ...but seriously, if you want to have any future in this hobby, you must conquer soldering. Thick flux is your friend (gobs of it, part/pad soaking/drowning in it), 63/37 solder is too... then the actual soldering iron. Digitally controlled, accurate temp, decent quality doesn't have to cost a bunch: miniware ts101, shop around for price. Wouldn't hurt to get a medium chisel tip for too... Patience is always desperate when required right now this minute... ...but totally worth waiting for: Haha, yes, indeed, Tony Stark is the only one capable of building/soldering/repairing Soldering requires experience and good tools ►BUY ANY RTF or BNF KIT IF U R A BEGINNER◄ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (ᵔᴥᵔ) • Posts: 776 Threads: 29 Likes Received: 406 in 306 posts Likes Given: 325 Joined: Jul 2022 Reputation: 18 If you're anywhere near the middle of the USA, I'll happily get everything working for you. I enjoy soldering and it's fun to find ways to get things working again. Heck, it would be fun to go fly too! Posts: 2,468 Threads: 76 Likes Received: 1,370 in 1,025 posts Likes Given: 801 Joined: Apr 2022 Reputation: 41 (11-Jan-2024, 10:29 PM)samysh Wrote: Can I send you the pieces to you, and you can soldering them for me? I would be grateful to you If you want money in return, tell me? What is your opinion? You haven't read any of my threads. :/ I have destroyed a flight controller, elrs rx and stripped the pads off two FC. i am definitely the last person you want to send anything to. Ask around your town and see if anyone flies planes or has model cars. Also see if a right to repair type shop exists or an electronics shop. Ask at the local college. There will be someone who does electronics, there always is. As to soldering requiring experience and good tools. Yes and no. To get experience, you need to practice. Good tools are semi required. Right now you are probably unsure if you want to do this indefinitely, so buying a Hakko would be unwise, but if in a year you are still really into it, buying a proper soldering station might be a good idea. Until then, maybe grab a Sequre iron. https://www.unmannedtechshop.co.uk/produ...on-b2-tip/ Some good quality solder, not that TBS crap (of which i have some and it's like soldering with treacle), but some Loctite or Kester. Some good quality thick flux, ideally rework flux/gel. The main thing to remember. If you tin a pad, wait for the part to cool down. I think that is how I fragged my FC. I tinned a number of pads back to back. Try Not, Do or Do Not - Yoda Posts: 42 Threads: 9 Likes Received: 15 in 15 posts Likes Given: 287 Joined: Oct 2023 Reputation: 1 (12-Jan-2024, 12:24 AM)Suros Wrote: If you're anywhere near the middle of the USA, I'll happily get everything working for you. I enjoy soldering and it's fun to find ways to get things working again. Heck, it would be fun to go fly too! This is very nice of you. I live in Sweden. How about I pay the costs of shipping of sending it to you? And you pay the costs of shipping (As a favor from you) of sending it back to me when you finish it? ►BUY ANY RTF or BNF KIT IF U R A BEGINNER◄ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (ᵔᴥᵔ) • Posts: 42 Threads: 9 Likes Received: 15 in 15 posts Likes Given: 287 Joined: Oct 2023 Reputation: 1 (12-Jan-2024, 12:25 AM)Pathfinder075 Wrote: You haven't read any of my threads. :/ I have destroyed a flight controller, elrs rx and stripped the pads off two FC. i am definitely the last person you want to send anything to. Ask around your town and see if anyone flies planes or has model cars. Also see if a right to repair type shop exists or an electronics shop. Ask at the local college. There will be someone who does electronics, there always is. As to soldering requiring experience and good tools. Yes and no. To get experience, you need to practice. Good tools are semi required. Right now you are probably unsure if you want to do this indefinitely, so buying a Hakko would be unwise, but if in a year you are still really into it, buying a proper soldering station might be a good idea. Until then, maybe grab a Sequre iron. https://www.unmannedtechshop.co.uk/produ...on-b2-tip/ Some good quality solder, not that TBS crap (of which i have some and it's like soldering with treacle), but some Loctite or Kester. Some good quality thick flux, ideally rework flux/gel. The main thing to remember. If you tin a pad, wait for the part to cool down. I think that is how I fragged my FC. I tinned a number of pads back to back. I live in a ghost town here where only bears live haha, I don't think there are people who can do that, but I will also ask ►BUY ANY RTF or BNF KIT IF U R A BEGINNER◄ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (ᵔᴥᵔ) • Posts: 776 Threads: 29 Likes Received: 406 in 306 posts Likes Given: 325 Joined: Jul 2022 Reputation: 18 (12-Jan-2024, 12:36 AM)samysh Wrote: This is very nice of you. I live in Sweden. How about I pay the costs of shipping of sending it to you? And you pay the costs of shipping (As a favor from you) of sending it back to me when you finish it? My main issue with long range shipping is that I don't know the current condition of the equipment, and I actually have a pretty limited budget. There's no telling if it will need additional parts, and international shipping can be quite costly. It may even end up being cheaper overall to buy a fresh flight controller. If those problems didn't exist, I'd happily agree. Posts: 412 Threads: 51 Likes Received: 153 in 109 posts Likes Given: 265 Joined: Apr 2023 Reputation: 11 I do think it is worth persevering to learn to repair things yourself. There will always be a future need to repair or build in this hobby. Sadly you can't outsource it all. I am still new and am only just getting more comfortable soldering. I had to file the tips of some of my soldering heads to make them small enough to solder whoop pads. At first I thought I was just too unsteady to solder, but smaller tips made a world of difference. • Posts: 6,112 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,286 in 1,833 posts Likes Given: 4,736 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 https://intofpv.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=4955 i was active member in the past, an experienced pilot from sweden, maybe you can contact and try to get support to get airborne Posts: 286 Threads: 25 Likes Received: 140 in 109 posts Likes Given: 92 Joined: May 2023 Reputation: 3 ^^^hero status right there^^^ cool beans |