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Specially designed motor for fpvracing
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MEPS SPACE SZ2207
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#2
Indeed motor looks fine, just ditch that green color.
But are you always going to make a separate thread for each question about your motors?
https://intofpv.com/t-what-is-your-favor...del-design
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(01-Dec-2022, 08:21 AM)montis Wrote: Indeed motor looks fine, just ditch that green color.
But are you always going to make a separate thread for each question about your motors?
https://intofpv.com/t-what-is-your-favor...del-design

Of course, more data about the motor will be uploaded later
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#4
Looks good.
Cut the size in half and I’d be all about it. (1103, 1104)
Or 12xx, 13xx, 14xx, 15xx, 16xx.

22xx (ie 2207) is gonna be a 250g+ build, and with current regulations here, I’m gonna be focusing on less than 250 grams all up weight (everything including battery).
Dangerous operations.

Disclaimer: I don’t know wtf I’m talking about.
I wish I could get the smell of burnt electronics out of my nose.
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#5
I'm probably in the minority here but I don't think the dayglo green/yellow motors actually look too bad. I agree they will likely end up being camouflaged in any undergrowth, but more motor colour options on the market give consumers more choice, so I'm sure they would generally be a welcome addition.

I think a clue to the reason as to why these are 22xx motors is in the title of the post. FPV racing. Racers mostly fly 5" quads with 22xx or 23xx motors. Anything smaller isn't powerful enough. So these are clearly aimed at the racing market and 5" freestyle quads. While the US is probably the biggest market for FPV and does have the worst regulations coming into force for 250+g quads, there are still plenty of other countries across the globe that do allow larger quads to be flown with far less restrictions. even if you have to do so away from urban environments.

Maybe MEPS Space (or whatever then name of this new RC hobby company is) already have other lines of motors in the design phase for other multirotor disciplines. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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(01-Dec-2022, 10:47 AM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: I'm probably in the minority here but I don't think the dayglo green/yellow motors actually look too bad. I agree they will likely end up being camouflaged in any undergrowth, but more motor colour options on the market give consumers more choice, so I'm sure they would generally be a welcome addition.

I think a clue to the reason as to why these are 22xx motors is in the title of the post. FPV racing. Racers mostly fly 5" quads with 22xx or 23xx motors. Anything smaller isn't powerful enough. So these are clearly aimed at the racing market and 5" freestyle quads. While the US is probably the biggest market for FPV and does have the worst regulations coming into force for 250+g quads, there are still plenty of other countries across the globe that do allow larger quads to be flown with far less restrictions. even if you have to do so away from urban environments.

Maybe MEPS Space (or whatever then name of this new RC hobby company is) already have other lines of motors in the design phase for other multirotor disciplines. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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#7
Hi ifpv much,

As for colors, I like the one that is grey with the copper color in the vanes best.

My second choice for colors is the orange one.

If I needed a specific motor and it only came in flourescent green, well, I would
buy it anyway since I don't put much stock in how a quad looks, but I really
don't care much for it.

I agree with montis that having a bunch of threads for your motors can get a bit
confusing. If you really think that is the best approach, then you might consider
putting all the links to all the threads in the first post of EVERY thread. At least
that we, things could be found.

I also agree with Lemony, that a line of smaller motors from 1103 - 15xx will 
fit a lot of builder/pilots better. I guess that I am curious why you chose the
larger format motors. My prediction is that the market for smaller motors will
increase while the larger ones might well decrease. While this is just my opinion,
I believe that the FAA is being pushed by the Department of Homeland Security
in an effort to coral drones starting with the larger ones. 

Hi Snow, Yeah these motors are clearly aimed at the racer. I do hope that there
are smaller motors in the pipeline. Maybe we will see those in the future.
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(01-Dec-2022, 10:47 AM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: Racers mostly fly 5" quads with 22xx or 23xx motors. Anything smaller isn't powerful enough. So these are clearly aimed at the racing market and 5" freestyle quads.

True NOW maybe that 5" is a standard, but the lack of power issue is only relative to other racers equipment.

The fun people have racing relatively very low power TW 65's is sufficient proof.

My opinion is that the racing world will have to move with the times, not get sidelined.

IF manufacturers concentrated on improving motor efficiency and power for sub 250g quads, we'd ALL be significantly better off, and so would the manufacturer, being effectively first into expanding a new and exciting prospect for the sport that just might survive the legislation storm.
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#9
Regardless of where it's being sold does the world need yet ANOTHER 2207 motor?

I'd say no. I don't pay much attention to colors but even those aren't original.
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(03-Dec-2022, 03:27 PM)sevro Wrote: Regardless of where it's being sold does the world need yet ANOTHER 2207 motor?

I'd say no. I don't pay much attention to colors but even those aren't original.

And I agree, no, it doesn't, UNLESS it offers a material step up in performance without undue loss of duration, and largely there's no way of telling till its bought and you have been disappointed..

Years ago I replaced some EMax with some same sized/kv BBB Racing motors.  

The step up in thrust was MASSIVE, the quad no longer accelerated it just vanished and re-materialised at the new position.

But the current required and the resultant battery sag even with new state of the art other hardware and packs was killing. 

The penalties far outweighed the power gain, since duration now plummeted to less than 2 mins without severe and largely crippling throttle/battery management.

So, I ditched them and bought RacerStar, again same size/kv, which had such soft performance they were performing only like motors half their weight and size.

SO then I bought new design EMax motors, and finally got a balance of power and duration I could live with.

3 changes!  So, I'm extremely cynical about motor manufacturer claims.
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I agree that the marketplace is flooded with 2207 motors, but there aren't many decent quality 2207 motors which are also sold at a low price, so if these can fill that gap in the market to compete with the price and quality of the EMAX Eco II motors then they might possibly stand a chance as a new unknown motor manufacturer entering the marketplace. It's also unlikely that anyone will roll the dice and purchase a set of motors from an unknown manufacturer without first having seen some reviews from some of the mainstream FPV YouTubers who are sent a free set to review without any conditions attached.

@OP - What price are you going to be selling these motors for?
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#12
Well it looks like the MEPSKING 2207 and 2306 motors made it into the hands of Chris Rosser for testing (video linked below). In a nutshell, the results are that these aren't the best motors for thrust and power but they are ideal lightweight motors with good efficiency for long flight times and cruising.

The 2207 and 2306 motors are currently retailing at $21:90 USD. They also seem to have taken onboard some of the feedback about smaller motors and also manufacture 0802 tiny whoop motors.

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(19-May-2023, 10:28 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: In a nutshell, the results are that these aren't the best motors for thrust and power but they are ideal lightweight motors with good efficiency for long flight times and cruising.

That's a nice way to put it  ROFL
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#14
"and also manufacture 0802 tiny whoop motors"


SIGH - just what wasn't needed. It really does need someone to get on top of motor power/versatility/battery draw and start filling in the holes that exist.


I'm running a 4" on 2205 motors as they are too soft for any 5". I'm running a 75 on 0802 as they were too aggressive for a 65.

Yes, I know everyone is different with different requirements, but its getting harder and harder to be able to pick a motor truly suited to your needs
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(20-May-2023, 01:28 AM)Oscar Wrote: That's a nice way to put it  ROFL

The title of this thread did actually state that these motors were for "FPV Racing" which when compared to other motors in the same size category they're clearly not based on Chris' testing, so it seemed only right to point that out in a diplomatic way Big Grin
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