(21-May-2021, 01:33 AM)txbdan Wrote: I just tried 1920x1080. That is what windows shows as (recommended) but same blinking/flickering. I tried pretty much every resolution on the entire list, all the same result. 

RDQ got back to me today and authorized an RMA and gave me a shipping label. I should have new ones in a week or so.

RDQ has been one of the most impressive resellers I've purchased from in this hobby. The very item we're talking about I ordered from them at 6:00 EST on a Saturday and got the shipping/tracking notice 30 minutes later.

(20-May-2021, 01:43 PM)txbdan Wrote: Yeh, makes me wonder if I should give FatShark HDO2s a shot instead. It'd cost me more to buy a receiver, but at least I know I'd have support.

Having owned a Fatshark HDO2 for more than an year now, I have been fairly lucky as mine worked well out of the box.

Only issue so far has been the Velcro on the faceplate loses stiction over time and I have to keep pressing it in. Fastshark support in Australia sent me a in warranty replacement velcro strap but the replacement faceplate velcro was cut for a different goggle and I had to modify it to fit the goggles. After a week or so the glue on the velcro started losing stiction again.

Stew from UAVFutures (search for his youtube channel) has been complaining forever about his HDO2 DVR not working and the DVR on the HDO2's is just extremely basic low resolution low fps and suitable for finding a lost model rather than a quality DVR recording.

I have also had issues with the goggles giving low voltage alarms and turning off fairly early on Lion cells (although we can push Lion cells to much lower voltages) and now I simply power them on using a 2s lipo pack.

Long story short, every goggle has its pro's and con's and none of them is a God send  and for a US$500 goggle I expect alot more out of premium analog goggles but then perhaps I am expecting too much.

(03-Mar-2021, 02:10 AM)Sugs Wrote: Glad to hear the goggles have the seal of approval from some regulars here. Kinda have to wonder about some of the severe disparagement that happened earlier in this thread, and whether we were visited by some FS fanboi's as they haven't been back.

Today is the first time I received a notification about this thread since I last posted. Maybe they slipped by me. [EDIT: Nope, theres a gap in notifications from Dec. 21st 2020, through to May 17th 2021.) Anyway I only have a couple things to add here.

After the most painful return process of my life, having to learn about chargebacks, apparently RDQ blocked my account from using coupons/promo codes. This was my conclusion after a swift but thorough investigation. I'm not going to argue with anybody. You can believe it or not, and though I swore I'd scream it from the highest mountain, this will be my only mention of it. I wont be dragged down further. I've had no reason to make things up about the product, or the seller. Needless to say it sucks being "blackballed," from one of the main distrubutors.

The 04X as I received them, my pair, not only failed to be a $500 product, they failed to be usable goggles with the popular camera I have in most of my (gotta be about 40 at the moment,) quads. Switching to diversity mode would have cleared this up from what I understand, but I dont recall this being in the manual, and when RDQ finally started talking to me 2 weeks after my initial request, and Skyzone chiming in an additional week later, *neither of them mentioned a word of it.* As underwhelming as they were in direct comparison to the 03O,(bulky, less efficient on power, downgraded fitment for my face, etc.,) and in general (incompatible receiver bay,) the fact I simply could not use my new, over $500 goggles with my first string/daily drivers I'd say is what put me over, and if I could have been using them, and adjusting to them, well, that was a fundamental part of my complaint, the last straw. So possibly I'd still have them if they had mentioned diversity, or clearly documented it, or far before that even, if they had a compatible receiver bay. I tried to save them by putting a Fusion receiver in them but NOPE. (Side note, I got what seems to be the most popular goggle rx a month or two ago and there really is no comparison.) Also, if I was only/mainly using them to watch movies, I wouldnt have had an issue, assuming the hdmi input adhered to standards.

Next, the LAST thing I could, or would ever possibly be is a "FS fanboi"- LMBO. Does rumoring really add value to thread? Perhaps theres already a discussion going about this, appropriately in its own thread, and relevant forum. Anyway, I was enthralled with my Dominator III's at the time (2011?) but the massive push behind that manufacturer, despite the *glaring* weaknesses, and outright failures, of its product, is too much for me. The many years broken DVR alone is too much for me.

On that note, and to wrap up, the DVR on the shark-eater goggles (purchased directly from manufacturer,) is phenomenal (truly close to experiencing the flight again.) While I give up some vibrance of my 03O, these goggles, plus the top-dog goggle receiver have become my daily drivers. The reduction in interference is tooo valuable to pass up. While there was an adjustment period, these goggles not only fit the bill, they bring much new to the game as well, and I really cant wait to see what they do with digital. For better or worse, I'm diving into that face-first (badum-tss.) It seems they did a great job building the foundation for it. The goggles have also been great for DRL, and I even used them for some cad (Tinker,) and other computer work.

(21-May-2021, 02:40 PM)Santiago Wrote: Today is the first time I received a notification about this thread since I last posted. Maybe they slipped by me. [EDIT: Nope, theres a gap in notifications from Dec. 21st 2020, through to May 17th 2021.) Anyway I only have a couple things to add here.

After the most painful return process of my life, having to learn about chargebacks, apparently RDQ blocked my account from using coupons/promo codes. This was my conclusion after a swift but thorough investigation. I'm not going to argue with anybody. You can believe it or not, and though I swore I'd scream it from the highest mountain, this will be my only mention of it. I wont be dragged down further. I've had no reason to make things up about the product, or the seller. Needless to say it sucks being "blackballed," from one of the main distrubutors.

The 04X as I received them, my pair, not only failed to be a $500 product, they failed to be usable goggles with the popular camera I have in most of my (gotta be about 40 at the moment,) quads. Switching to diversity mode would have cleared this up from what I understand, but I dont recall this being in the manual, and when RDQ finally started talking to me 2 weeks after my initial request, and Skyzone chiming in an additional week later, *neither of them mentioned a word of it.* As underwhelming as they were in direct comparison to the 03O,(bulky, less efficient on power, downgraded fitment for my face, etc.,) and in general (incompatible receiver bay,) the fact I simply could not use my new, over $500 goggles with my first string/daily drivers I'd say is what put me over, and if I could have been using them, and adjusting to them, well, that was a fundamental part of my complaint, the last straw. So possibly I'd still have them if they had mentioned diversity, or clearly documented it, or far before that even, if they had a compatible receiver bay. I tried to save them by putting a Fusion receiver in them but NOPE. (Side note, I got what seems to be the most popular goggle rx a month or two ago and there really is no comparison.) Also, if I was only/mainly using them to watch movies, I wouldnt have had an issue, assuming the hdmi input adhered to standards.

Next, the LAST thing I could, or would ever possibly be is a "FS fanboi"- LMBO. Does rumoring really add value to thread? Perhaps theres already a discussion going about this, appropriately in its own thread, and relevant forum. Anyway, I was enthralled with my Dominator III's at the time (2011?) but the massive push behind that manufacturer, despite the *glaring* weaknesses, and outright failures, of its product, is too much for me. The many years broken DVR alone is too much for me.

On that note, and to wrap up, the DVR on the shark-eater goggles (purchased directly from manufacturer,) is phenomenal (truly close to experiencing the flight again.) While I give up some vibrance of my 03O, these goggles, plus the top-dog goggle receiver have become my daily drivers. The reduction in interference is tooo valuable to pass up. While there was an adjustment period, these goggles not only fit the bill, they bring much new to the game as well, and I really cant wait to see what they do with digital. For better or worse, I'm diving into that face-first (badum-tss.) It seems they did a great job building the foundation for it. The goggles have also been great for DRL, and I even used them for some cad (Tinker,) and other computer work.

I'm not following what you're saying. What goggles and what receiver did you end up with and like?

This hobby is riddled with low quality and unreliable products. I definitely use my Amex to buy anything of value (like these goggles) so worst case I can file a Return Protection claim and they'll refund me.

(21-May-2021, 09:54 PM)txbdan Wrote: I'm not following what you're saying. What goggles and what receiver did you end up with and like?

This hobby is riddled with low quality and unreliable products. I definitely use my Amex to buy anything of value (like these goggles) so worst case I can file a Return Protection claim and they'll refund me.

Pardon my vagueness. I had hoped to leave enough clues for the interested, while avoiding full blown brand/product promotion. But since you asked, I am happy to provide more detail.

I purchased a set of the grey, "FPV.One" goggles *direct* from Orqa. After using a TBS Fusion rx module in them for a couple weeks and not experiencing the benefits of fused video streams to the extent widely claimed online, I did *literally* the only thing left that I could do; I bought the latest Rapidfire module.

I've known about this thing. How could you be in this hobby and not be aware of Rapifire? The incessant pushing of this product alongside Fatshart goggles is partly the reason why I took literally the longest possible path to it. I wanted nothing to do with the Kool-Aid crazed social manipulators, their defective "best," goggles, and all their gushing about this module. I grouped it with FS goggles and so it ceased to be an option. I wont go into detail here (surprise! I actually do..,) but because every goggle offering at the time was either an ill conceived, poorly executed, overpriced and overpraised, cheap piece of junk, or was OKAY, but underwhelming and behind the times because the maker of them was effectively the only game in town and so got away with never developing them further, and ignoring all their problems and shortcomings because people still bought them and praised them! ..because that was the state of things, I refused to play ball, and voted with my wallet, and so I put up with being on an [almost hilarious] ongoing mission consisting of an ever changing electrical abomination made from a variety of dongles, and wiring schemes, multiple hop transmissions, cellphones taped to a box that was strapped to my head, OTG, UVC, head mounted movie displays, Android, a pocket mounted A to D diversity module with hdmi out, Avegant Glyph (badass btw,) USB battery packs velcro strapped onto a strap, and much much more. I could have bought what went for "top of the line goggles," probably three times over, probably six times over! Then I got my FXT Viper II (?) box goggles and they were/are great but it's an ordeal to use them and they dont lend themselves to discreet, or mobile. I needed compact goggles. I had a blond moment and bought the EV200D's, FROM BANGGOOD. smh... That was a quick $350 out the window, just over 30 days of use. One screen went out and Banggood told me "every product has its life span," and they gave me like 2300 banggood points or something which literally calculated out to $4.97, of credit. That wouldnt even cover half of the phantom charges that appear, and increase, as you progress through checkout! Never again.. Anyway, then the 03O dropped, and after carefully evaluating the info coming in on them for a full year, I said these are the ones. And they were. And I've hammered those things with thousands of flights across a range of terrains, and environments, and temperatures, and they performed FLAWLESSLY. Bravo on the 03O, SZ, well did. And they are still excellent. But I grew a desire for more, and for the next thing, whatever it was, and I justified it with the practical, and true reason of needing/wanting a spare set of goggles to share. ===/> In came the 04X. My posts in these threads complete that gap in the timeline, and that brings us to now, or just before now actually.

The above is my way of quantifying and qualifying my personal opinion on goggles for you, for anyone reading. I want to disclose my relevant experience, and you can decide if that makes my opinion more valuable than those "opinions" of the ever present influencers, and the damage control spin doctors (whose time would be better spent doing a better job in the first place, btw.) This way when I tell you Orqa FPV.Ones + Rapidfire are my go to goggles for FPV (the Orqas also function reliably simply as an HD head mounted display too,) you have some context, and perhaps it helps to show that my primary motive here is to share with you genuine, quality information, as gathered through my eyes, info that you may find valuable, and that hopefully can spare you some time and money as you pursue what I trust to be common goals that we share in this little big world of FPV flight.

Now, and to close, before that absolute tangent I was about to say that yes, it was a.. a miscalculation to not look at Rapidfire as its own thing, but I wouldnt take back a moment of all the playing I got to do with all the unorthodox setups I conjured, not a second of it. I have accumulated a healthy amount of experience in the field, and Rapidfire really does work the best, and for me, not just by a little bit. I'd love to take the ---si Challenge with Rapidmix, and Rapidfire. I would be genuinely impressed if they are achieving even 85% the functionality of Rapidfire. Maybe they are. But all this talk like "it's the same, does the same, they are all the same now, I dont have to worry about buying a module," well you dont, but I seriously doubt you're getting a like for like experience. I wont pursue it, but if I happen upon a SZ module to try, and it actually compares to Rapidfire, I will return here immediately to update this post, and that's a fact. The state of the module in the 04X at release time was not even in the same class. Orqa+Rapidfire, and also the 03Os in a solid second place, and FXT boxys in third. That's all I got. Hope this helps you, and/or others that are out to land the proper gear.

And nobody is offering a future for their gear like Orqa is. They are not a goggle company, but a technology company, and I am seriously excited (like I havent been in a while,) for their digital system.

So do we drink to that? They say there is nothing a bit of whisky can't fix. 

I got my second pair of SKY04Xs form RDQ. They shipped them quickly which was nice. Both receiver bays are working properly, hopefully they hold up.

However, I'm having trouble with the HDMI input on these as well. Can anyone confirm the proper HDMI resolution/refresh rate settings? It's unlikely its the goggles twice.. I have a brand new HDMI cable that I assume works. I can't test it because nothing else I have uses a Mini HDMI connector. :/

UPDATE! I connected them to my Mac through a docking station that uses a DisplayPort to HDMI adapter along with the HDMI to Mini HDMI cable I bought. That worked! I then used the same adapter and cable to connect the goggles to my PC's DP port. That also worked. I was thinking maybe my PC's HDMI port was bad so I connected it to a monitor and it works!? So it seems that the goggles require this active DP-HDMI adapter to work which is odd because that should only be necessary for 4K high refresh rate stuff I believe. Weird...

I tried using 04X but I couldn’t get enough + diopter correction.
Given I use +3.5 reading lenses in my DJI goggles I suspect the parameters of +6 to -6 is incorrect.
There’s one vendor who has changed the specs of 04X to 0 to +6 although pictures in the description say +6 to -6.
They are very nice goggles but if your farsighted I’d suggest trying someone else’s first or you may not get enough focus.
I’ll have to get contact lenses to use them which I shouldn’t have to to do if +6 to -6 was correct.

(24-May-2021, 06:38 AM)Santiago Wrote: Pardon my vagueness. I had hoped to leave enough clues for the interested, while avoiding full blown brand/product promotion. But since you asked, I am happy to provide more detail.

I purchased a set of the grey, "FPV.One" goggles *direct* from Orqa. After using a TBS Fusion rx module in them for a couple weeks and not experiencing the benefits of fused video streams to the extent widely claimed online, I did *literally* the only thing left that I could do; I bought the latest Rapidfire module.

I've known about this thing. How could you be in this hobby and not be aware of Rapifire? The incessant pushing of this product alongside Fatshart goggles is partly the reason why I took literally the longest possible path to it. I wanted nothing to do with the Kool-Aid crazed social manipulators, their defective "best," goggles, and all their gushing about this module. I grouped it with FS goggles and so it ceased to be an option. I wont go into detail here (surprise! I actually do..,) but because every goggle offering at the time was either an ill conceived, poorly executed, overpriced and overpraised, cheap piece of junk, or was OKAY, but underwhelming and behind the times because the maker of them was effectively the only game in town and so got away with never developing them further, and ignoring all their problems and shortcomings because people still bought them and praised them! ..because that was the state of things, I refused to play ball, and voted with my wallet, and so I put up with being on an [almost hilarious] ongoing mission consisting of an ever changing electrical abomination made from a variety of dongles, and wiring schemes, multiple hop transmissions, cellphones taped to a box that was strapped to my head, OTG, UVC, head mounted movie displays, Android, a pocket mounted A to D diversity module with hdmi out, Avegant Glyph (badass btw,) USB battery packs velcro strapped onto a strap, and much much more. I could have bought what went for "top of the line goggles," probably three times over, probably six times over! Then I got my FXT Viper II (?) box goggles and they were/are great but it's an ordeal to use them and they dont lend themselves to discreet, or mobile. I needed compact goggles. I had a blond moment and bought the EV200D's, FROM BANGGOOD. smh... That was a quick $350 out the window, just over 30 days of use. One screen went out and Banggood told me "every product has its life span," and they gave me like 2300 banggood points or something which literally calculated out to $4.97, of credit. That wouldnt even cover half of the phantom charges that appear, and increase, as you progress through checkout! Never again.. Anyway, then the 03O dropped, and after carefully evaluating the info coming in on them for a full year, I said these are the ones. And they were. And I've hammered those things with thousands of flights across a range of terrains, and environments, and temperatures, and they performed FLAWLESSLY. Bravo on the 03O, SZ, well did. And they are still excellent. But I grew a desire for more, and for the next thing, whatever it was, and I justified it with the practical, and true reason of needing/wanting a spare set of goggles to share. ===/> In came the 04X. My posts in these threads complete that gap in the timeline, and that brings us to now, or just before now actually.

The above is my way of quantifying and qualifying my personal opinion on goggles for you, for anyone reading. I want to disclose my relevant experience, and you can decide if that makes my opinion more valuable than those "opinions" of the ever present influencers, and the damage control spin doctors (whose time would be better spent doing a better job in the first place, btw.) This way when I tell you Orqa FPV.Ones + Rapidfire are my go to goggles for FPV (the Orqas also function reliably simply as an HD head mounted display too,) you have some context, and perhaps it helps to show that my primary motive here is to share with you genuine, quality information, as gathered through my eyes, info that you may find valuable, and that hopefully can spare you some time and money as you pursue what I trust to be common goals that we share in this little big world of FPV flight.

Now, and to close, before that absolute tangent I was about to say that yes, it was a.. a miscalculation to not look at Rapidfire as its own thing, but I wouldnt take back a moment of all the playing I got to do with all the unorthodox setups I conjured, not a second of it. I have accumulated a healthy amount of experience in the field, and Rapidfire really does work the best, and for me, not just by a little bit. I'd love to take the ---si Challenge with Rapidmix, and Rapidfire. I would be genuinely impressed if they are achieving even 85% the functionality of Rapidfire. Maybe they are. But all this talk like "it's the same, does the same, they are all the same now, I dont have to worry about buying a module," well you dont, but I seriously doubt you're getting a like for like experience. I wont pursue it, but if I happen upon a SZ module to try, and it actually compares to Rapidfire, I will return here immediately to update this post, and that's a fact. The state of the module in the 04X at release time was not even in the same class. Orqa+Rapidfire, and also the 03Os in a solid second place, and FXT boxys in third. That's all I got. Hope this helps you, and/or others that are out to land the proper gear.

And nobody is offering a future for their gear like Orqa is. They are not a goggle company, but a technology company, and I am seriously excited (like I havent been in a while,) for their digital system.

Santiago, so from what I’ve read, if i understand right, in the end you just returned the skyzone 04x goggles? I am going thru a similar experience though not as bad. I got a second module and it now has the screen tearing issue when it did not have it with the single module. If i disable the second module, it goes back to being what they were before, which isn’t really all that bad. Anyway, i came here looking for leads for a fix, but i can’t find shit for information on setting up the second module, which leads me to believe that most people are just plugging it in and its working fine. For me, that ain’t the case. I updated the firmware, and had to rebind RSSI (a process i also can’t find information on) multiple times just to get it to read something other than 0% 0%. I don’t even have a clue if I’m doing THAT right let alone any kind of hidden setting or setup for the goggles. If you ever found out any kind of fix or even know where i should be posting this problem, any advice will be greatly appreciated.

You mean second module as in you want to do quad-versity? I have never seen much info come out on this and I doubt this gets any better than RapidFire or Fusion.

Those "Rapidfire/Fusion killer" claims for the RapidMix receiver were just marketing stunts and youtube shills trying to get more clicks on their videos.

I have not flown the Sky04x personally but based on its year or so in existence now, I think its a fairly solid set of goggles and in some cases one of the best analog goggles at the moment in the market.

If you can return the RapidMix module and get a decent VRX module that fits the Sky04x module bay (Fusion I think does not unless someone can confirm they fixed the mould).

People even report issues with Rapidfire or Fusion but its seems RapidMix quality is still not even comparable. (I am sure some person will tell me their RapidMix module works perfectly, well then you are one of the lucky ones and not everyone wants to take gamble).

(25-Jul-2022, 03:23 AM)kafie1980 Wrote: You mean second module as in you want to do quad-versity? I have never seen much info come out on this and I doubt this gets any better than RapidFire or Fusion.

Those "Rapidfire/Fusion killer" claims for the RapidMix receiver were just marketing stunts and youtube shills trying to get more clicks on their videos.

I have not flown the Sky04x personally but based on its year or so in existence now, I think its a fairly solid set of goggles and in some cases one of the best analog goggles at the moment in the market.

If you can return the RapidMix module and get a decent VRX module that fits the Sky04x module bay (Fusion I think does not unless someone can confirm they fixed the mould).

People even report issues with Rapidfire or Fusion but its seems RapidMix quality is still not even comparable. (I am sure some person will tell me their RapidMix module works perfectly, well then you are one of the lucky ones and not everyone wants to take gamble).

Yeah, I was going for “quadversity”. There are quite a few YouTube videos doing side by side shootouts and showing it off in general, but I can’t find any about setup or troubleshooting.
As far as just giving up and returning it, I haven’t received any responses to my emails asking questions (purchased from ATOMRC), so I’m guessing the return process is going to be a nightmare as well.
I was hoping more to track down a fix, as I enjoy working on the equipment as well as flying, so messing with hardware or software wouldent be that big a deal for me, but I appreciate the input, and as of now, I am leaning toward just chalking it up to a loss.

I am sure there is something good in that quad-versity technology, )all the digital feeds seem to use quad-versity or something similar).

I just think the market did not grow around qua-versity for analog and not many people tried it nor provided any feedback to Skyzone.

Who ever was showing it off probably just knew only to turn on a switch and showed what it was capable off.

What are the different RF Modes for (Normal, Racing, Steadyview X, Third Party)? If I'm using one of the Mix 1, 2 or 3, do I need to select RF Mode Steadyview X? It seems to work fine when using RF Mode Normal.

I think someone who has a set of Skyzone O4x goggles along with tye RapidMix VRX may know better to answer the various RF modes.