Does the Skyzone 04X can take a Fusion or Rapidfire module. Please say.

The Skyzone SKY04X goggles use a standard module bay so the answer is yes. However, there is no official Fusion or RapidFIRE cover to fit the SKY04X's so you would either have to design your own or try to find an already designed one on somewhere like Thingiverse then print it off yourself.

I had a look around and I don't see any RapidFIRE or Fusion covers that have already been designed by someone for either the Skyzone SKY04X or the Eachine EV300O goggles (both of those goggles use exactly the same casing). So you would be on your own with designing something yourself.

That said, the SteadyView module that comes with the Skyzone SKY04X goggles is exactly the same as the RapidMix module that comes with the Eachine EV300O goggles, and that module pretty much matches the performance of the ImmersionRC RapidFIRE and TBS Fusion modules. So the question is, do you have a specific reason that you wouldn't want to use the supplied Skyzone SteadyView module? You might want to have a watch of the following video...

SteadyView performs really good in the video. In my opinion, If you have Skyzone 04X, you don't need to buy a rapid-fire module for it. It's built in module is super solid. For your question, yes it can support rapid-fire module.

I just ordered a pair from newbeedrone. They have a sale and they're $75 off. Hopefully this pair will last me a good while. The build quality and receiver reception seem very good. Have to wait a couple weeks though since they have it setup on pre order. I emailed newbeedrone and they said they'll ship once they get a batch which will take a couple weeks.

No, it cannot take a TBS Fusion module. Not a chance, unless you want to dremel/cut away signifcant amounts of the housing, and even then it wouldn't be guaranteed because of how out of alignment the pins/holes are. All the cutting would need to be done, just for it to clear the top/bottom of the bay.

(27-Nov-2020, 12:15 AM)HiThere Wrote: I just ordered a pair from newbeedrone. They have a sale and they're $75 off. Hopefully this pair will last me a good while. The build quality and receiver reception seem very good. Have to wait a couple weeks though since they have it setup on pre order. I emailed newbeedrone and they said they'll ship once they get a batch which will take a couple weeks.

I'm sorry. I really hope you have a better experience than me. I posted my thoughts and observations in the 04X release thread here. https://intofpv.com/t-skyzone-sky04x-ole...#pid119197

Apologies for the mis-information. I was 99% certain that Skyzone had been sensible enough to design the module bay on the SKY04X goggles to accept any standard receiver module like they did with that clunky add-on bay they released for their SKY03O goggles. If they have only designed the bay to accept their own modules, this tying you into Skyzone only products then they've made a huge mistake IMO.

(28-Nov-2020, 02:17 AM)Santiago Wrote: No, it cannot take a TBS Fusion module. Not a chance, unless you want to dremel/cut away signifcant amounts of the housing, and even then it wouldn't be guaranteed because of how out of alignment the pins/holes are. All the cutting would need to be done, just for it to clear the top/bottom of the bay.

Did you remove the stock fusion cover before trying to see if it fit in the module bay?  Not unusual to have to print your own cover designed by you or someone else to fit different goggles.

(28-Nov-2020, 04:09 PM)Sugs Wrote: Did you remove the stock fusion cover before trying to see if it fit in the module bay?  Not unusual to have to print your own cover designed by you or someone else to fit different goggles.

Indeed I did. Further, my brain was not accepting what my eyes and fingers were communicating, that this module will never fit. As such, I pressed on, CERTAIN it just needed, eh, something... I attempted to "staighten," the pins to support this false reality, which means I slightly angled each pin in the direction they needed to go, towards the receiving row of holes. In my persistence, the screen module came free from the upgraded wifi module. Nothing broke, but if you are familiar with the double sided foam tape used to secure the two modules of the Fusion together, then this should illustrate the intensity of my effort, in addition to the severe extent to which this module bay is incompatible.

Sadly, Im not a module fan, at all. I love the integrated vRX's of the 03O. Integrated design provides for some antenna separation, better distribution of the electronics, which is beneficial to operating temperatures, not to mention clean aesthetic of the overall design. I was intrigued, and drawn in by the prospect of a 03O, but with a larger field of view. The reality of the 04X is not anywhere near, or related to that vision. A brief summary would be, "clunkier Eachine EV200D, with a potentially impractical larger field of view. I have some gripes about the jog wheels too, as the implementation prevents them from being the apt, intuitive, and superior input method they really could be. Im sure Ill eventually get into that too...

(28-Nov-2020, 02:51 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: Apologies for the mis-information. I was 99% certain that Skyzone had been sensible enough to design the module bay on the SKY04X goggles to accept any standard receiver module like they did with that clunky add-on bay they released for their SKY03O goggles. If they have only designed the bay to accept their own modules, this tying you into Skyzone only products then they've made a huge mistake IMO.

You, me, and, I'm willing to bet, nearly everybody, rightfully assumed compatibility. In fact, is it even an assumption? I took it as a given, seeing as module support was the one thing many claimed it to be missing. What would be the objective of making a bay that excludes certain modules? (Actually, never mind, but I'm not aware of any beef between Skyzone and TBS. ..who released module support recently, for their game controller style radio, that doesn't work with FrSky's XJT module apparently due to unexpected design aspects of that module. BID..) The only reasonable conclusion, to me, is that Skyzone are shipping beta hardware and firmware, and that the module bay will eventually be corrected. Maybe it's just me, but what a terrible way to do business with the people who are likely the most excited about your product. I'm aware of how common this approach has become, and to me it remains unacceptable, but typically I see it in software where the updates will eventually straighten things out, not so much in hardware, where early adopters will be stuck with partially functional, and inferior equipment (short of receiving a full replacement.) It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I reached out to Skyzone last week, and will update with what I hear back from them.

(28-Nov-2020, 02:17 AM)Santiago Wrote: No, it cannot take a TBS Fusion module. Not a chance, unless you want to dremel/cut away signifcant amounts of the housing, and even then it wouldn't be guaranteed because of how out of alignment the pins/holes are. All the cutting would need to be done, just for it to clear the top/bottom of the bay.

@Santiago - You've clearly stated in this thread that the Fusion module won't fit the SKY04X goggles. You said the bay is too small. The Fusion and RapidFIRE modules are both standard size modules, so are you able to explain how the following is possible?

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4671135

There is no mention in the description whatsoever that the goggle bay has to be modified.

Can you please post some photos of yours showing that the Fusion module doesn't actually fit so we can see it with our own eyes. I don't want people on this forum to be misled if that isn't actually the case, so some proof of that would be helpful.

I am curious as well, will other modules work in SKY04X?

I'm looking to buy these as my first decent set of goggles, and want to make sure they are able to, for future upgrades if needed.

Still new to FPV, but is it best to wait a few months to buy (anything) untill the bugs are worked out?

We are having a similar discussion in another thread about the Eachine EV300O goggles, which are pretty much the same except of the screen resolution and branding. Maybe my post can hopefully clarify some of your questions:

https://intofpv.com/t-ev300o-raw-dvr-fin...#pid120216

(01-Dec-2020, 11:35 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: @Santiago - You've clearly stated in this thread that the Fusion module won't fit the SKY04X goggles. You said the bay is too small. The Fusion and RapidFIRE modules are both standard size modules, so are you able to explain how the following is possible?

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4671135

There is no mention in the description whatsoever that the goggle bay has to be modified.

Can you please post some photos of yours showing that the Fusion module doesn't actually fit so we can see it with our own eyes. I don't want people on this forum to be misled if that isn't actually the case, so some proof of that would be helpful.

I was hoping to have made some progress with SZ before I came back to post, but I see now there is further purpose in doing so. It's deeply important to me that I deal in accurate information. Anything less doesn't qualify to even be called information. At the same time, I am perfectly fallible. If I've made any errors, you can be sure I'll take ownership and make the required corrections, with transparency. I was already considering creating some video, and photos to go with my observations, and critique, so I will now go forward with that. In this way, I'll support everything I've said with photographic, and video evidence.

Regarding the Thingiverse post, I can give you a couple observations after giving it a glance.

My interpretation of, "..third party receiver must plug into left modual [Sic] bay," found in the SKY04X manual, was the opposite as seen in his photo. Left module bay for me, is from the perspective you have when installing a module, looking at the front of the goggles, in an upright orientation. Clearly I may be wrong here, but attempting (just now,) to install the Fusion in the other bay yields the same results (Ill be making video.) Next, he has removed a shiny, silver badge/label/sticker from the temple area, next to the strap slots, which comes slapped over the horizontal seam of the top/bottom halves, accentuating the slight overhang of the upper half. This suggests that possibly he removed the sticker as part of some amount of disassembly when he performed the modifications that would be required to fit the Fusion, if his goggles were like mine, and/or, he agrees with me to some extent regarding the underwhelming finish quality of the goggles, and removed, or didn't reapply, the cheap, tacky (NPI,) silver sticker, since it's the perfect final touch of, "meh," that could perfectly certify these goggles as a genuine Eachine product. Lastly, the only comment on that post speaks of, "..tabs on the back to [Sic] not fit properly due to rapidfire black plastic pieces holding the boards together." This could suggest the design resembles the unique mods he might have made, though youd then think that the person commenting would have then faced similar, which is not reflected in the comment.

With all that said, I only now realized you are asking me to explain how a Rapidfire module does or does not fit. I couldn't tell you the first thing about how Rapidfire fits, as I am working with a Fusion module, and can only speak to that. While modules must be somewhat similar, I doubt they are identical. Is there a spec somewhere we could look at, or is it just a loosely agreed upon form factor? And let me point you to the blog where I originally commented, where you can find anonymous confirmation, in the comments, that the Fusion is not compatible. In fact, I believe the author may have even updated his blog post to reflect this. http://www.multirotorguide.com/news/skyz...d-goggles/

Last comment for now, in attempt to maintain some context here: Remember, the whole basis of my evaluation of the SKY04X is a direct comparison with my above excellent SKY03O goggles.