Posts: 21,416 Threads: 595 Likes Received: 9,039 in 6,690 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 796 (24-Nov-2020, 10:31 PM)daniel.tappeiner Wrote: Really? Are there any more information? If any V1's do go on offer in a Black Friday sale and it's a decent deal then I would still jump on some because the current goggle hardware is decent and the V2's are very likely going to be quite a bit more expensive, not to mention that demand will mean V2's being sold out and hard to get hold of for a month or two when they first get released. It's also always best not to buy the first few batches of any new product until any hardware/firmware issues have been ironed out. You can always sell the V1's and still recoup a large chunk of the money you paid, especially if you got them at a cheaper price in a sale. Fast forward to 36:02 in Phaser FPV's last live stream... • Posts: 18 Threads: 0 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Oct 2020 Reputation: 0 25-Nov-2020, 08:21 AM (This post was last modified: 25-Nov-2020, 08:22 AM by ChangeAgent.) I notice ADATR has thousands of subs now and is taking sums of money from people on Patreon. His current solution using a linux box was indeed conceived by other users and the link confirming this is earlier in this thread. He gives vague inconsistent answers to questions and asks Bardwell superchat questions that someone who is supposedly an expert hacker should know and often are a first top link google search away. See SEO is expensive and a few goggles for a giveaway and superchats to get noticed is nothing in comparison to get a channel instantly popular like he has. He didn't produce any evidence of anything till he came across the solution that was posted here after it was posted. He never provides any technical descriptions. This all still seems like a cash scheme piggybacking on Bardwell's stream. On a lighter note the V2 goggles were confirmed for a January release. =) • Posts: 23 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 3 in 3 posts Likes Given: 16 Joined: Oct 2019 Reputation: 0 (24-Nov-2020, 10:50 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: If any V1's do go on offer in a Black Friday sale and it's a decent deal then I would still jump on some because the current goggle hardware is decent and the V2's are very likely going to be quite a bit more expensive, not to mention that demand will mean V2's being sold out and hard to get hold of for a month or two when they first get released. It's also always best not to buy the first few batches of any new product until any hardware/firmware issues have been ironed out. You can always sell the V1's and still recoup a large chunk of the money you paid, especially if you got them at a cheaper price in a sale. Fast forward to 36:02 in Phaser FPV's last live stream... Thanks Snow! Good point! I will wait and see if there is a decent deal in the Black Friday sale, but I won't be flying much in the next few months anyway (winter and Covid) Tough decisions... But if I get a 20% discount, I think I'll take the deal and as you mentioned, i could always sell the V1's! I will probably have to wait another 2 days and see what to expect.. My biggest concern is that as soon as the v2 is released, there will be probably no more firmware updates for the V1 goggles. • Posts: 21,416 Threads: 595 Likes Received: 9,039 in 6,690 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 796 (25-Nov-2020, 08:21 AM)ChangeAgent Wrote: I notice ADATR has thousands of subs now and is taking sums of money from people on Patreon. His current solution using a linux box was indeed conceived by other users and the link confirming this is earlier in this thread. He gives vague inconsistent answers to questions and asks Bardwell superchat questions that someone who is supposedly an expert hacker should know and often are a first top link google search away. See SEO is expensive and a few goggles for a giveaway and superchats to get noticed is nothing in comparison to get a channel instantly popular like he has. He didn't produce any evidence of anything till he came across the solution that was posted here after it was posted. He never provides any technical descriptions. This all still seems like a cash scheme piggybacking on Bardwell's stream. On a lighter note the V2 goggles were confirmed for a January release. =) I don't want to take anything away from the guy or start bashing people where it's not justified but I do have to agree that the attention seeking on JB's live streams with constant superchats and spamming his links is starting to wear a bit thin every single week. I also have no idea why he was made a moderator on JB's channel because that has given him free reign to spam his links throughout the stream. He currently has 40 patreon subscribers earning him over $500 a month (tax free?) but I'm not entirely sure what for. I noticed a few comments from who were complaining that for the patreon subscription money they paid, they've not yet seen any details or been given any further information. If it turns out that this guy is just piggy backing off of someone else's work for financial gain then it's despicable. I really hope for the sake of everyone who is giving him money that it doesn't turn out to be some kind of a scam like that. Phaser FPV always seem to leak information. They did the same before with TBS Tracer and the FatShark Attitude V6 goggles before either of those products were officially announced. I waited 5 months to finally receiver my V1 goggles from B**g***d so it's typical that a new version is just around the corner. I did joke about that happening when I was ranting about how long BG customer service was taking to deal with my issue and how piss poor their service was, but it now seems to be reality. The only saving grace is that I did get the goggles at a heavily discounted price so even if I decided to just sell them on I would likely get most, if not all of my money back. So I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. • Posts: 166 Threads: 33 Likes Received: 5 in 4 posts Likes Given: 39 Joined: Oct 2019 Reputation: 0 don't want to go out of topic, but there is nothing official about v2 being released on junary. A part from that, i would never buy v2 first production , and yes they will keep updating firmware for v1 for at least 2-3 years • Posts: 21,416 Threads: 595 Likes Received: 9,039 in 6,690 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 796 25-Nov-2020, 06:17 PM (This post was last modified: 25-Nov-2020, 06:24 PM by SnowLeopardFPV. Edit Reason: Additional info added. ) I don't think discussing some things about V2 goggles in this thread is really going off-topic because the V2 goggles could include native HDMI out functionality which is in line with this thread. Another member on here ( 5zero7rc) contacted DJI and they said they are still actively working on new firmware for the V1 goggles so I'm sure there will be at least a few more firmware releases. One of the new features is purported to be a proper signal quality indicator in the OSD for the DJI Controller instead of the read signal strength bars which don't really tell you much. If you watch the Phaser FPV video from time position 36:02 that I linked to in post #61 they have confirmed that V2 goggles are coming sometime around January. As one of the biggest FPV vendors in Australia they will know more information than most other people. DJI never make any official statements or announcements until a week or two before a product launch, because they don't want to hurt sales of their current products. And as already said, V2's are going to more expensive than V1's so if people are thinking the current price of V1's is too high unless in a sale then V2's are going to be even more out of budget, and there aren't going to be any discounted prices or sales of a new product for a very long time. • Posts: 18 Threads: 0 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Oct 2020 Reputation: 0 (25-Nov-2020, 10:42 AM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: I don't want to take anything away from the guy or start bashing people where it's not justified but I do have to agree that the attention seeking on JB's live streams with constant superchats and spamming his links is starting to wear a bit thin every single week. I also have no idea why he was made a moderator on JB's channel because that has given him free reign to spam his links throughout the stream. He currently has 40 patreon subscribers earning him over $500 a month (tax free?) but I'm not entirely sure what for. I noticed a few comments from who were complaining that for the patreon subscription money they paid, they've not yet seen any details or been given any further information. If it turns out that this guy is just piggy backing off of someone else's work for financial gain then it's despicable. I really hope for the sake of everyone who is giving him money that it doesn't turn out to be some kind of a scam like that. Phaser FPV always seem to leak information. They did the same before with TBS Tracer and the FatShark Attitude V6 goggles before either of those products were officially announced. I waited 5 months to finally receiver my V1 goggles from B**g***d so it's typical that a new version is just around the corner. I did joke about that happening when I was ranting about how long BG customer service was taking to deal with my issue and how piss poor their service was, but it now seems to be reality. The only saving grace is that I did get the goggles at a heavily discounted price so even if I decided to just sell them on I would likely get most, if not all of my money back. So I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Yes Snow. I watched the videos on his YT channel last night. Very suspicious descriptions of things like the range limit and how when the limit is breached the Air unit allegedly overheats. All the while he gives his vague explanations he has awkward hand movements and a lack of finesse when handling electronics. His Patreon is riddled with grammatical errors and his top tier monthly fee is over $62!!? Even if he does send out boxes to people they will still be the fruits of the open source community that he has taken ownership of and paywalled. I have no personal desire to needlessly give anyone a hard time. In this instance it's simply a question of honesty. I'm a very open source centric person and believe information like this should be open to all. Lol yeah BG support can be a bit hit and miss sometimes. I'm actually really happy with my V1 goggles so I would need to see significant improvements to justify upgrading anyhow. Perhaps if they are smaller, lighter, OLED with HDMI out and live audio I may be tempted. I do wonder if they have a V2 Air unit in the works and the new goggles can do 1080p but we will see. I don't fancy replacing all six of my Air units but I might stretch to just one to try it out. If V2 does support HDMI out then this whole V1 mod issue should fade away lol. • Posts: 166 Threads: 33 Likes Received: 5 in 4 posts Likes Given: 39 Joined: Oct 2019 Reputation: 0 (25-Nov-2020, 08:24 PM)ChangeAgent Wrote: Yes Snow. I watched the videos on his YT channel last night. Very suspicious descriptions of things like the range limit and how when the limit is breached the Air unit allegedly overheats. All the while he gives his vague explanations he has awkward hand movements and a lack of finesse when handling electronics. His Patreon is riddled with grammatical errors and his top tier monthly fee is over $62!!? Even if he does send out boxes to people they will still be the fruits of the open source community that he has taken ownership of and paywalled. I have no personal desire to needlessly give anyone a hard time. In this instance it's simply a question of honesty. I'm a very open source centric person and believe information like this should be open to all. Lol yeah BG support can be a bit hit and miss sometimes. I'm actually really happy with my V1 goggles so I would need to see significant improvements to justify upgrading anyhow. Perhaps if they are smaller, lighter, OLED with HDMI out and live audio I may be tempted. I do wonder if they have a V2 Air unit in the works and the new goggles can do 1080p but we will see. I don't fancy replacing all six of my Air units but I might stretch to just one to try it out. If V2 does support HDMI out then this whole V1 mod issue should fade away lol. Why it should fade away? many will remain on v1. I won't change for sure V1 only to have a HDMI out i will never use, nor for OLED. • Posts: 4,731 Threads: 392 Likes Received: 3,231 in 1,827 posts Likes Given: 3,214 Joined: Apr 2019 Reputation: 101 I am super stoked on the prospect of a v2 goggle. I'm surprised no spy footage. If they are noticeably slimmer than v1, I'm at about 80-85% sure I'm in even first batch January. Posts: 21,416 Threads: 595 Likes Received: 9,039 in 6,690 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 796 I don't think the HDMI output hack for the V1 goggles will fade away. There are a lot of people who have V1's that aren't just going to jump on the V2 bandwagon, so demand for HDMI out on the V1's will still exist. I see that the other guy who showcased the HDMI output hack first before ADATR copied his solution appears to be having some legal rights issues with what he's developed. He posted a week ago stating that. Apparently DJI have asked him to stop developing it. If that is the case then ADATR is going to face the same problem, and all those Patreon subscribers of his are going to end up losing their money. Interestingly, AndyRC doesn't seem to think there are V2 goggles on the horizon any time soon and he thinks DJI are instead investing all their time and energy in their own new FPV Drone which is due for release shortly. You also have to question why the leaked photo of that guy testing the DJI FPV Drone has him wearing the V1 goggles. DJI would surely be testing with all the new kit. Plus, other than blatant photoshop fakes (there's yet another one HERE), we haven't seen any leaked images of the new goggles which is unheard of with DJI products. There has always been a (probably planned) leak of photos from all of their past products prior to release. But I wonder why Phaser FPV would make that statement on their live stream. Maybe they just don't want to keep active stock of the V1 goggles that they will then struggle to sell if V2 goggles do appear. Who knows. AndyRC's thoughts on the DJI FPV Drone and DJI FPV Goggles V2: https://intofpv.com/t-rumour-dji-fpv-dro...#pid118910 Posts: 166 Threads: 33 Likes Received: 5 in 4 posts Likes Given: 39 Joined: Oct 2019 Reputation: 0 26-Nov-2020, 09:58 PM (This post was last modified: 26-Nov-2020, 09:59 PM by Enrico79.) (26-Nov-2020, 10:27 AM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: I don't think the HDMI output hack for the V1 goggles will fade away. There are a lot of people who have V1's that aren't just going to jump on the V2 bandwagon, so demand for HDMI out on the V1's will still exist. I see that the other guy who showcased the HDMI output hack first before ADATR copied his solution appears to be having some legal rights issues with what he's developed. He posted a week ago stating that. Apparently DJI have asked him to stop developing it. If that is the case then ADATR is going to face the same problem, and all those Patreon subscribers of his are going to end up losing their money. Interestingly, AndyRC doesn't seem to think there are V2 goggles on the horizon any time soon and he thinks DJI are instead investing all their time and energy in their own new FPV Drone which is due for release shortly. You also have to question why the leaked photo of that guy testing the DJI FPV Drone has him wearing the V1 goggles. DJI would surely be testing with all the new kit. Plus, other than blatant photoshop fakes (there's yet another one HERE), we haven't seen any leaked images of the new goggles which is unheard of with DJI products. There has always been a (probably planned) leak of photos from all of their past products prior to release. But I wonder why Phaser FPV would make that statement on their live stream. Maybe they just don't want to keep active stock of the V1 goggles that they will then struggle to sell if V2 goggles do appear. Who knows. AndyRC's thoughts on the DJI FPV Drone and DJI FPV Goggles V2: https://intofpv.com/t-rumour-dji-fpv-dro...#pid118910 Good points there. I think DJI's v2 googles are not planned to be released before 2022. And on Junary we could see the new controller "tango style" with the first DJI fpv drone. We'll see... Nonetheless you can't live waiting the next version. DJI v1 with the new firmware are pretty good now, the dimension are not really bothering me, i feel very confortable wearing them, almost i prefer them to skyzone 03O, due to the fact the pressure on the face is better distributed and not focused. So ye, the only reason , assuming that there will be no difference in terms of performance, would be the native HDMI-OUT (assuming they will include it). Although i think that it would be a terrible mistake by DJI if they allow V2 users to have HDMI - OUT and they deny it to V1 owners... a big mistake in terms of customers loyalty. • Posts: 21,416 Threads: 595 Likes Received: 9,039 in 6,690 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 796 07-Dec-2020, 12:28 PM (This post was last modified: 07-Dec-2020, 12:37 PM by SnowLeopardFPV. Edit Reason: Typo corrections. ) I would be interested to know if anyone on here has signed up to ADATR's patreon. A number of people were complaining on JB's live stream yesterday that they were signed up and paying him money but he seems to have gone silent and hasn't provided any more progress information or responded to anyone's messages on Discord for at least a week. I really hope people haven't been scammed out of their money. • Posts: 214 Threads: 9 Likes Received: 110 in 76 posts Likes Given: 34 Joined: May 2019 Reputation: 6 i actually became a patron for 3,50 to get all the info so I could apply the hack myself. No new patron posts since Nov 22 and he's not replying to comments. He says he has a discord server but the links don't work (anymore). He also mentions he's waiting for the PDB to be produced before he'll share more but it's not looking too good at the moment. The hack info doesn't seem to be available anywhere as of now. I've got access for a month so that is the time I'll give him to come up with the promised goods. It's starting to feel like a scam but I knew that going into to it. That is how much I need the HDMI hack. • Posts: 166 Threads: 33 Likes Received: 5 in 4 posts Likes Given: 39 Joined: Oct 2019 Reputation: 0 (09-Dec-2020, 02:57 PM)Flickeryvision Wrote: i actually became a patron for 3,50 to get all the info so I could apply the hack myself. No new patron posts since Nov 22 and he's not replying to comments. He says he has a discord server but the links don't work (anymore). He also mentions he's waiting for the PDB to be produced before he'll share more but it's not looking too good at the moment. The hack info doesn't seem to be available anywhere as of now. I've got access for a month so that is the time I'll give him to come up with the promised goods. It's starting to feel like a scam but I knew that going into to it. That is how much I need the HDMI hack. I made the same with the same reasons, but for 25$ once • Posts: 21,416 Threads: 595 Likes Received: 9,039 in 6,690 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 796 Putting the hardware production delays aside, the other bigger issue that ADATR faces is a potential lawsuit from DJI unless he comes up with his own app that bears no resemblance and uses no code from the official DJI FPV app which is installed on the Smart Controller, because his current solution makes use of a reverse-engineered / hacked version of that app which will be in breach of copyright laws if he distributes it. This is the problem the other guy who was doing the same faced. DJI threatened him with legal action. Developing a brand new app from the ground up will be no quick or easy task. • |