Nice to meet you! I am new to FPV, learned to fly LOS fixed wings before COVID. Successfully through my first ground up cinewhoop build. My biggest issue hasn't been learning betaflight, parts compatibility, soldering. Instead, its dealing with diplopia. I hate using my screen, I really like using my goggles. If make them so tight my nose is cut I can see one image. I'm pretty sure diopters aren't my solution because I only use driving glasses and reading glasses just to reduce strain. If i'm wrong PLS say so. But I only fly with one eye open.

Welcome. 

Well now... I wear glasses and have several strengths of "reading" glasses because my issue is the "muscle" in the iris and my eyes have different fatigue levels at different times. Also, I use different strengths for different things. That said, I modified my first {cheap} set of goggles and bought 6.0 reading glasses. During my search, I found the FXT Viper v2.0 goggles which I love. They are basically a "box" goggle so there is just one screen and you look at it with as many eyes as you wish {personally, use both eyes}. I no longer need the 6.0 glasses. Yes, I still use my glasses, but I can use one of the standard strengths that I use regularly. The screen is removable from the headset so I can use it on the bench when testing FPV systems on my quads. These goggles are true diversity and have a built in DVR. 

I simply can not use those "split" goggles with a screen for each eye....diopters or not. Keep in mind that I sometimes have to use different strengths depending on how tired my eyes are at the time. These goggles allow me to use what ever strength I need. I bought mine for $ 179.00 which puts them in the middle; not cheap, but certainly not extremely expensive either. 

For me, these goggles are GREAT  

You didn't say what goggles you have, but you might try some different ones. Single screen box goggles (like iFly mentioned) might work. EV800D are another type of box goggle.

For compact style (2 screen) goggles, if you know someone with some EV100's or some HDO2's you might ask them to let you try them. These have individual focus adjustment on the screens. (There may be others, but that's the only two I know of.) The price difference of these two is pretty steep - $100 to $500 respectively. You wouldn't want to buy either one if they didn't work for you. A local shop might have some HDO2's, but only banggood carries the EV100's I think.

(27-Aug-2020, 11:50 PM)iFly4rotors Wrote: Welcome. 

Well now... I wear glasses and have several strengths of "reading" glasses because my issue is the "muscle" in the iris and my eyes have different fatigue levels at different times. Also, I use different strengths for different things. That said, I modified my first {cheap} set of goggles and bought 6.0 reading glasses. During my search, I found the FXT Viper v2.0 goggles which I love. They are basically a "box" goggle so there is just one screen and you look at it with as many eyes as you wish {personally, use both eyes}. I no longer need the 6.0 glasses. Yes, I still use my glasses, but I can use one of the standard strengths that I use regularly. The screen is removable from the headset so I can use it on the bench when testing FPV systems on my quads. These goggles are true diversity and have a built in DVR. 

I simply can not use those "split" goggles with a screen for each eye....diopters or not. Keep in mind that I sometimes have to use different strengths depending on how tired my eyes are at the time. These goggles allow me to use what ever strength I need. I bought mine for $ 179.00 which puts them in the middle; not cheap, but certainly not extremely expensive either. 

For me, these goggles are GREAT  

Hey iFly, when you start reaching out to 5km, I look forward to your results with the Vipers V2.  I went to them thinking they would be the cats meow, and I liked the comfort, view and could wear with glasses easily.  But the receiver in them sucks.  At about 2 miles I started losing signal.  So, I started checking and that seems to be close to their max range.  There was rumored on one of the forums that a firmware upgrade was in the works to maybe improve on the range.  I don't know if it happened.  I sent mine back to GetFPV for a full refund.  I hope they are a stumbling block for you and your 5km badge!

(28-Aug-2020, 12:40 PM)Krohsis Wrote: Hey iFly, when you start reaching out to 5km, I look forward to your results with the Vipers V2.  I went to them thinking they would be the cats meow, and I liked the comfort, view and could wear with glasses easily.  But the receiver in them sucks.  At about 2 miles I started losing signal.  So, I started checking and that seems to be close to their max range.  There was rumored on one of the forums that a firmware upgrade was in the works to maybe improve on the range.  I don't know if it happened.  I sent mine back to GetFPV for a full refund.  I hope they are a stumbling block for you and your 5km badge!

Hi Krohsis, 

I will certainly keep that in mind and watch out at the 2 mile mark.  Although, I always watch out for video issues. I scares the H*LL out of me when I can see the video    ... I've already lost one quad that way 

 What goggles do you use ??  Do you use a "box" goggle ??   How far do you get with your goggles? 

I pretty much have to have one; the two screens just don't work for me.

Is there any way to tell what the range of a goggle is ... other than trying it ??

This may be my limiting factor for a 5K run. 

Thanks

(28-Aug-2020, 12:55 PM)iFly4rotors Wrote: Hi Krohsis, 

I will certainly keep that in mind and watch out at the 2 mile mark.  Although, I always watch out for video issues. I scares the H*LL out of me when I can see the video    ... I've already lost one quad that way 

 What goggles do you use ??  Do you use a "box" goggle ??   How far do you get with your goggles?

I still use my EV800D goggles.  You may not look suave in them, but they just work.  Drone Mesh did a video on putting a different receiver on the EV800Ds, but learned it was a backwards direction to go because the receiver is sooooo good on them.  I actually have 3 pair now, my originals, and two new sets for me and my wife.  I will say the receiver on my original pair is slightly, but noticeably better than the 2 new ones.  But they all are very good.  But EV800D are far from great in comfort, or compatibility with glasses.  So they have their warts too. 

I pretty much have to have one; the two screens just don't work for me.

I love the look of the slimline goggles, like fatsharks.  But I don't like the view, it's like looking at the world through a toilet paper tube.  And of course there are the issues with those of us that wear glasses.

Is there any way to tell what the range of a goggle is ... other than trying it ??

Not that I know of.  But you can do what I failed to do, and take some time to learn more about them in the forums before buying.  I never considered the range on the Vipers would be so bad....well 2 miles isn't bad, but for me unacceptable.  Just do you due diligence to make sure the goggles of choice will perform as you would like.  

This may be my limiting factor for a 5K run.

Doing a mod for the Vipers like Drone Mesh did for the EV800Ds may be a way to go.  I don't know of one, but if it can be done with the EV800Ds, it should be able to be done with the Vipers.  Perhaps a search for adapting an receiver to the goggles might be a solution for you. 

 

 

@Krohsis, Thanks    

Hey Krohsis, can you wear eyeglasses with the EV800D goggles 

All, thanks for the welcome! Glad I’m not frustrated about my eyesight being poor for no reason, it seems like the FXT box goggles are the best all around for the price and a safe choice for imperfect eyes.

I have the Skyzone 02C, chose them to rock the S.S. FS boat. They have the form factor, bright displays, diversity, dvr. My wife sees the image perfectly and enjoys using them. The button/menu operation is oppressive but that’s really small potatoes for the occasional setting changes each flight in my opinion. Even switched out the pad to NBD foam, which is comfy.

With covid I wasn’t able to ask around for any fitment, so I just went ahead and committed. Like much of this hobby, it’s a shoot first and troubleshoot later. My eachine 5802d dvr just crapped out, so will be figuring out this goggle fitment or moving to the FXT.

After many tries with the 02c, I’m still using a screen. Is it worth opening my skyzones and trying to adjust the left eye angle? Or just move on to the eachine?

Battery and Glasses Mods. Dodgy but it works

   

I'd try everything to get used to the skyzones as one day you may want to go for the DJI HD Goggles which atm are the only HD option worth having.

Its good to have backup goggles. I have 2 of the EV800d's so maybe it is worht it for you to have the skyzones and an ev800d. EV800D is not that expensive comapred to the slim lines.

{2020-09-25} 
I received my EV800Ds a couple of days ago. Still in the box, but now I have them.

{2020-10-11}

The other day, I unboxed the EV800D goggles and attempted to try them on with my eyeglasses and discovered that I can not wear them without modification to either the goggles, a pair of eyeglasses, or both.  At this point, I am not sure which method that I will use. If you wear eyeglasses, you will likely NOT be able to wear these goggles without some type of modification.

At this point, I have a lot to accomplish before I attempt a 5K (about 3 miles) flight, so there is no urgency to modify the EV800Ds. In fact, I want to carefully consider my options before making any modifications. 

Even after I modify the EV800D goggles, I will likely use them for long range flights and continue to use my Viper goggles for short to mid-range (less than 2 mile) flying. 

For me, the Viper goggles are superior to the EV800D goggles when it comes to being able to wear them with eyeglasses. In addition to being able to wear eyeglasses without modification, the bottom light shield is removeable; without it you could wear the biggest glasses imaginable. In fact, with the bottom shield removed, you can actually see "the real world" without removing the goggles. Being able to do this, allows you to walk around and see things without removing the goggles; nice if you need to check your orientation or move around a bit. 

Another thing, the Viper goggles use standard LiPo batteries that have an XT60 connector {I use a 4s 1550 mAh battery}. If a battery dies in the field, you just replace with a fresh battery, no problem.

The EV800D goggles, on the other hand, have an internal battery that must be recharged inside the headset. So, if it dies in the field, you have to recharge it before you can fly again. Yeah, there is a modification that can be made so that an external battery can be used. Just keep in mind...this is another physical modification to the goggles. 

In my opinion, 
The Vipers are better goggles for those who need to wear eyeglass with the goggles and 
do Not need to fly beyond the 2 mile range limit. 

(11-Oct-2020, 12:22 PM)iFly4rotors Wrote: ... wear them with eyeglasses. 

... batteries 

In my opinion, 
The Vipers are better goggles for those who need to wear eyeglass with the goggles and 
do Not need to fly beyond the 2 mile range limit. 

For completeness - your thoughts on 

- Video quality?
- DVR quality?

(29-Oct-2020, 09:30 PM)cyclicalobsessive Wrote: For completeness - your thoughts on 

- Video quality?
- DVR quality?

Hi cyclicalobsessive,

In my opinion, the video quality of the goggles and the internal DVR appears to be very good. I would say that it is on par with similar goggles; everything is analog so it is NOT HD quality, but I think the quality is very good; probably about as good as it gets for analog. What I have found is that goggles generally are not the issue with video quality. If you check out the videos in My Journal, you will get a good idea of the image quality. Since the Vipers were used for all of the videos, you see the difference in the different setups on the quads. Also, some of the videos have some black spot distortion which I have now discovered was actually the SD cards that I was using {the older, slower rated ones}. Since purchasing the new high speed SD cards, I have not had any black spots.

That said, I don't have anything to compare it with except videos from other pilots, but if you watch, most of the FPV videos are not very high quality. Since a lot of pilots use a GoPro or some other action camera for their videos, they care less about the FPV feed to the goggles. Also, the Tarsier and other HD camera setups only provide the HD from the on-board DVR that is directly attached to the camera. The FPV feed is about the same quality as non-HD systems.

The things that affect the video quality are  the camera, the VTX, the "noise" picked up by the electronics, and local RF interference where you fly. The video will only be as good as the system on the quad even if you have the very best and clearest quality goggles on the planet. 

On a different note, I have found a set of eyeglasses that I believe will work with the EV800D goggles. I am still working on the glasses, but the modifications are relatively minor and NO modifications to the goggles. After I have used them a few times, I will post the glasses, the mods, and my perception of using them.