(27-May-2018, 04:40 PM)Fisherking Wrote: I'm just at the beginning of my journey.  I feel like I'm hooked. my gf can't be live the time I'm taking on research for drones budget were to start. iv seen a few vidios on getting started with fpv and acro.  starting slow with hover and progressing from there.
I'm hopping to work out a lot of stuff on a simulator.
your post is an inspiration  as well as being daunting at the road that lies ahead. I'm looking forward to it any way.
this looks like the closest to flying while sitting on the ground.
looking forward to gleaning information here, and hopefully in the future contribute.
Fisher King

Yes...this hobby is somewhat addictive.  Don't be discouraged by my LACK of progress.  most folks progress a lot faster then I.  Everyone learns at different rates which are influenced by a number of factors.  A hobby is suppose to be fun and rewarding.  I have to remind myself of that from time to time when I get too frustrated at my skills....or lack of them.  Enjoy the experience, the skills will come. 

(10-Apr-2018, 06:59 PM)Pinnergy75 Wrote: I too am a newb and am taking a long time to bloom into the Mr. Steele. I do post a few flights on my You Tube channel.. I am having issues with Rolls I would like to post a Fail and maybe you guys can tell me where im going wrong.



do i have my rates too high? Everytime i try to do a roll like this i screw it up.. haha as luck had it .. i landed upright!!

LOL I have my 2” rates set much higher than this.
Haven’t found my 5” rates yet, but you get used to it, or you change it to what works for you.

Sorry to revive this old thread but I just wanted to thank sirdude for starting it and all the other members that added to its value. Can't express my gratitude as I found it exactly when I needed it. I only started a few weeks ago but I was at the point of giving up as I don't seem to get it. I have started in sim but I don't usually play games on the computer and I did not manage to get any considerate improvements after more than 20h spent on it. Then got a micro whoop and as it was mentioned, "crashing" got to a new level. By reading this thread gave me a bit of hope and also I have realized that I am switching too soon between LOS and FPV...I need to stick only with LOS for now until I can do at least 1 loop without crashing.

It is something odd about this hobby...despite the fact that I can't do anything so far (apart from just about hover go forward and back) , it still got me hooked somehow. Even though I live 5 min walking distance of big open fields, here in UK the weather is miserable this time of the year.

So thank you all, once again. This will keep me going for a while.

Hey Birbal, in my opinion there isn't a too soon moving from los to fpv because they are different disciplines. I have more hours on LOS but I fly a lot better FPV. LOS has a steeper learning curve imo even on stable mode. Just put sometime on the basics on Velocidrone for example and you will fly good FPV more than just hovering. Just tilt your camera down so you don't pick up much speed and it will help you land. Really, just try that and you'll be confident in no time.

I agree. LOS and FPV are completely different so it is never too soon.

I feel the biggest mistake is getting a quad which is too powerful for your skill level.

My first FPV quad was a blade inductrix brushless. First flight I lost it Very deflating. Not one to give up I bought an Eachine M80 brushed whoop. Much better as it was slow enough for me to develop the muscle memory to control it but it did all the moves I wanted to initially do.

What I meant is that I kept switching from LOS to FPV (and the other way around) instead to focus on one mode and stick with it until I get the hang of it. I've got a Mobula7 and I am running on 1s at the moment...I thought is not that powerful but is still quite snappy. I also need a big open space for maneuver but at the moment I am stuck in a tiny flat as the weather is horrible.

I have also spent more than 20h in Liftoff but it doesn't seem to help me at all when trying on Mobula7. Anyway, I need to find a big open space indoors and keep trying. Thanks for suggestions!

EDIT: I did found someone on Youtube with some PID recommendations for beginners and made it somehow more manageable and not so snappy. Up to 2 days ago, I had no idea what PIDs are. Also I would like to stick with FPV goggles, for now, I have enabled artificial horizon + horizon sidebars in OSD and these make a big difference. Much easier to keep it leveled and I feel like I need to stick with this for now until I build up some confidence.

I did this, and I had my brother do this and it worked for him too.

Large open field, full acro/air mode, and let it rip. As I was told here in the beginning, altitude is your friend when just starting. My brother has now perfected the slow left hand turn. He'd be a good NASCAR driver....

Deal

(13-Nov-2019, 12:44 PM)Birbal Wrote: Sorry to revive this old thread but I just wanted to thank sirdude for starting it and all the other members that added to its value.

Hi all,
Now I want to thank you Birbal for refloating it  and of course sirdude for starting. Good valuable lessons to extract while we suffer the rainiest fall in years

This is the kind of threads that makes this forum awesome
Santi

5 months? Holy Molly.

(14-Nov-2019, 09:49 AM)Birbal Wrote: What I meant is that I kept switching from LOS to FPV (and the other way around) instead to focus on one mode and stick with it until I get the hang of it. I've got a Mobula7 and I am running on 1s at the moment...I thought is not that powerful but is still quite snappy. I also need a big open space for maneuver but at the moment I am stuck in a tiny flat as the weather is horrible.

I have also spent more than 20h in Liftoff but it doesn't seem to help me at all when trying on Mobula7. Anyway, I need to find a big open space indoors and keep trying. Thanks for suggestions!

EDIT: I did found someone on Youtube with some PID recommendations for beginners and made it somehow more manageable and not so snappy. Up to 2 days ago, I had no idea what PIDs are. Also I would like to stick with FPV goggles, for now, I have enabled artificial horizon + horizon sidebars in OSD and these make a big difference. Much easier to keep it leveled and I feel like I need to stick with this for now until I build up some confidence.

Do you have the link to the Youtube video with PID recommendations for beginners?  If so, please share. Thanks

What's wrong with BF defaults as "beginner PIDs"? They are generally very good PIDs for most drone sizes.

(14-Jul-2020, 11:54 AM)iFly4rotors Wrote: Do you have the link to the Youtube video with PID recommendations for beginners?  If so, please share. Thanks

A lot of time, people mistaken PID for rates.  There is no such things as beginners PID. You can lower your rates to make flying a little easier.  Lower rates will allow you to move the stick more without causing the quad to be as erratic.  Beginners always have trouble with minute movements.

You beat me to it VooDoo! All I ever adjust in BF is the rates to the way I like my craft to respond. The only time I ever mess with PID values is if there is a particular issue that I need to address, but the advances in BF and INAV filtering has made the need nearly non-existent any more.

Work with your rates first and find a happy spot there.

I too am a very new convert to FPV. SirDude, your first and follow-up videos are really encouraging. Thanks for posting. I have had my rookie setbacks in the 6 short weeks since I first put the power to the propeller. I thought about bailing before I had too much money invested (because I know that is going to happen). But, as with other things in my life, I made a decision that I wanted to fly. So, I will make it happen.
I am ready to start FPV flying as (per Oscar) I really feel like a loser flying line 'o sight - I just can't get comfortable with it. So, for all you guys that transitioned into FPV, how necessary is it to have a spotter with you? Obviously I plan to start with modest goals.

(10-Sep-2020, 02:47 PM)Sphere Wrote: I too am a very new convert to FPV.  SirDude, your first and follow-up videos are really encouraging.  Thanks for posting.   I have had my rookie setbacks in the 6 short weeks since I first put the power to the propeller.  I thought about bailing before I had too much money invested (because I know that is going to happen).  But, as with other things in my life, I made a decision that I wanted to fly. So, I will make it happen.
I am ready to start FPV flying as (per Oscar) I really feel like a loser flying line 'o sight - I just can't get comfortable with it.  So, for all you guys that transitioned into FPV, how necessary is it to have a spotter with you?  Obviously I plan to start with modest goals.

Hi Sphere, well now, "legally" you are always supposed to have a spotter. My wife is my spotter. Now, the reality is that she can't keep track of it unless it is really close and flying slow. I tend to fly about 60 to 80 meters (about 150-200 feet) high. At that altitude and running about 20-30 mph, she can barely see it and loses track pretty quickly. Even if you don't fly that high, once you get out to about  300 meters (about 1000 ft.) you still can't see it. Now, I do mostly fly 2.5 and 3 inch quads and these things are almost visually invisible. Additionally, you can't hear them except on a "fly by". 

So, is it important...yes.  Is it helpful...well...maybe. If you crash very far out in any rough terrain...well...
I have crashed into brush  within a short distance, she was watching and it still took us about 10-15 minutes to find the quad. 

You might want to check out this thread:  FPV woes, newb needs suggestions pls