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First Remote ID Module
#1
This appears to be one of the (if not the) first Remote ID module that has appeared in the public domain which is called the Dronetag Mini and which has been developed by a Czech company. So this now gives us a first view of the type and size of module that will need to be attached to >=250g quads in the USA. The listed price is 249 Euros (~$282 USD). Specifications:
  • Cellular: LTE-M and Narrowband IoT (NB-IoT)
  • Cellular bands: 3, 8, 20 for the EU and 2, 4, 12 for the US
  • Short-range radio: Bluetooth 2.4GHz
  • Sensors: GNSS, barometer, accelerometer
  • Positioning: GPS L1, GLONASS L1, Galileo E1, SBAS
  • SIM card: Chip SIM soldered on the mainboard
  • Built-in Antennas: Internal LTE, Bluetooth and GNSS
  • Optional Antennas: External LTE and Bluetooth via MMCX plugs
  • External ports: 3.3V extension connector and 5V Micro USB
  • Battery: LiPo 3.7V 500 mAh
  • Battery life: 8-14 hours (depending on the configuration)
  • Charging: 5V Micro USB
  • Charging time: 2 hours from a discharged state
  • Average current consumption: 50mA
  • Maximum current consumption: 1A
  • Enclosure@ plastic
  • Fastening mechanism: 3M Dual-lock SJ4570
  • IP rating: IP43
  • Operating temperature: -5°C to +40°C (23°F to 104°F)
  • Dimensions: 54x35x15 mm (2.1x1.3x0.6 in)
  • Weight: 32 grams (1.1 oz)

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#2
Interesting. What data is it sending? Does it even communicate with the FC?
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#3
Unfortunately I don't know any more details other than what is in the two links of the original post.

Keep in mind that this particular one is designed specifically for the Czech market but it gives some idea and an insight about what we can probably expect to see for the USA Remote ID hardware implementation.
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#4
That's like size of my Canon DSLR camera  battery Sad
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#5
Hello guys,

Co-founder of Dronetag here. Regarding the data we are broadcasting and sending to our cloud, we comply with both ASTM F3411 and ASD-STAN prEN 4709-002 standards. Briefly, GNSS position, accuracies, speeds, heading, altitude pressure, LTE signal, number of satellites, etc. Check out which data are available by this open-source app to see the complete list https://github.com/opendroneid/receiver-android

I agree that it might seem quite big for small hobby drones, but please keep in mind that this is a completely independent solution with everything inside (LTE connectivity, antennas, battery, etc.) We tried to make the Mini future proof, that's why we went with the cellular connection onboard. However, we are about to release Dronetag Beacon soon that will be half the size and weight. If you are interested I will keep you posted about the details. In the meantime, you can check our public documentation for Mini here https://help.dronetag.cz/

Lukas
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#6
Not gonna lie ... good roninUAV advertising.   ROFL
roninUAV | Purveyor of fine sub-250g FPV drone frames. «» FPV threads

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#7
Not gonna lie, you will never see one of these on any quad I build.
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- Yoda

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#8
Mine either.
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#9
Not on ANY of mine. NO WAY.  

I don't want to register anything, 
I don't want to broadcast any information,
and I don't want a Part 107 pilot's license. 

I intend to stay in the Category 1 {sub-250} lane, 
stay small and stealthy, and avoid as many people as possible.
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#10
Even if I wanted to attach it, most of what I fly is a homemade 3". There's no room left on that sucker and it's already 280 grams. Gonna have to half my battery capacity just to comply.

Furthermore, that thing costs more than any quad I currently own. I can't justify adding nearly $300 to everything I put together.
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#11
(31-Jul-2022, 07:53 PM)Suros Wrote: Even if I wanted to attach it, most of what I fly is a homemade 3". There's no room left on that sucker and it's already 280 grams. Gonna have to half my battery capacity just to comply.

Furthermore, that thing costs more than any quad I currently own. I can't justify adding nearly $300 to everything I put together.

The FAA don't care. They probably know full well that on most FPV quads it will be impractical to install a Remote ID module which would then make a 251g quad fly like crap with a module that adds a 5th more weight. The FAA are trying to kill the hobby in order to try and clear the airspace for commercial drone flights which will make them money. It's as simple as that.
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(31-Jul-2022, 09:44 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: The FAA don't care. They probably know full well that on most FPV quads it will be impractical to install a Remote ID module which would then make a 251g quad fly like crap with a module that adds a 5th more weight. The FAA are trying to kill the hobby in order to try and clear the airspace for commercial drone flights which will make them money. It's as simple as that.

Yep, the FAA don't care. 

Yeah, I agree, I think that they want to clear the airspace or at least make it so that
the commercial drones can detect other drones...for avoidance...well maybe...????
They also want to try to track that idiot that does something stupid like try to short
out a power plant, drop a bomb, fly in restricted airspace, or something else that 
is just dumb. 

The practical effect is to ...
1) Drive the hobbyist to the Category 1 {sub-250 gram} quads.
2) Make outlaws out of the renegades who fly a "heavy" quad 
    without Remote ID. "F" the regulations, fly what they want to.

As pointed out, enforcement might just be a nightmare and d*mn near
impossible, but hey...there it is. 

Now, let's consider this to be a structure we are building. Well, first you have to
lay the foundation. You need something to build upon. Or...something that can
be enforced when needed. Now, you also implement this over time so that no
one can say that they didn't know...or...that you blindsided them. Guys, this is
just one step and likely NOT the last. 

If someone wants to get brave, let them violate the regulations, get caught, 
and take them to court. Any takers. Certainly not me. I want to avoid this 
whole mess, stay under the radar, stay out of the way, and just have a little
fun. Personally, I don't care if it needs to be something small, light weight,
and stealthy. I just want to have a little fun without any hassles.
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#13
Obviously posted as a joke (in case people who don't understand jokes are present or have no common sense). Tongue

Short Range EMP for downing those damned amazon drones. Who thinks they won't just deliver packages? They will surveil everything around them as they fly around and sell that info to anyone who wants it.

There's a couple of YT vids on how to do it with a microwave and a parabolic dish, if you search in the (high energy physics) areas, ie, the places where people make railguns and laser weapons. Tongue
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#14
Do keep in mind that, in the USA, 
it is a felony to take down an aircraft
any aircraft, even drones.

Do you look good in strips or prison denum?
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#15
That and a microwave is about the deadliest appliance in the house.
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