Posts: 12 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: Aug 2017 Reputation: 1 15-Aug-2017, 03:47 AM (This post was last modified: 15-Aug-2017, 03:49 AM by Bigjosautosales.) Hello Guys... I been working on a quad for a few days now I purchased a big lot of parts including frames , motors, escs, batteries, flight controllers ( wich I fried all 3 of them ! ), and tons of wires, plugs you name it i probably have it ! Am new to the drone building and have never flown one before! Am very mechanic inclined and can tackle anything on my plate! But here is the deal! I put one of these bad boys together ! Went by the book, installed cleanflight setup by the book and guess what ? My radio won't control the quad! I can see the radio on CF and see the bars going left to right when I push or move my buttons but radio would not control quad... here is what am using for this build. Radiolink At9 / R9D Robocat frame 250 Pdb on a sub frame ( no brand) has led lights New naze32 rev6 Blheli 20a Turnigy 2.2 2200mah 3 cell Akaso d2204-2300kv Run cam swift Kylin 600mw / foxeer Antena Vision + goggles ( I was able to get the video feed to the goggles ) ! So can someone please help me get this thing on the air?? Thanks. • Posts: 100 Threads: 4 Likes Received: 86 in 55 posts Likes Given: 89 Joined: Jun 2017 Reputation: 5 If the bars in the receiver tab are working, then the radio sound like it is bound correctly. Have you setup an ARM switch under modes, to arm the quad? Posts: 12 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: Aug 2017 Reputation: 1 Hi Snuffy. I have no clue on the Arm switch is. • Posts: 100 Threads: 4 Likes Received: 86 in 55 posts Likes Given: 89 Joined: Jun 2017 Reputation: 5 (15-Aug-2017, 04:07 AM)Bigjosautosales Wrote: Hi Snuffy. I have no clue on the Arm switch is. Under the Modes tab in CF, you will need to enable the ARM mode and assign it to a switch on your transmitter. This switch will enable and disengage the motors so you are able to plug the battery in without the motors chewing your fingers off Posts: 12 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: Aug 2017 Reputation: 1 (15-Aug-2017, 04:11 AM)Snuffypot11 Wrote: Under the Modes tab in CF, you will need to enable the ARM mode and assign it to a switch on your transmitter. This switch will enable and disengage the motors so you are able to plug the battery in without the motors chewing your fingers off Thanks. I'll check it out tomorrow when I get to the shop.. in the mean time I'll do some research! Thank you very much.. • Posts: 1,504 Threads: 83 Likes Received: 944 in 654 posts Likes Given: 2,142 Joined: Sep 2016 Reputation: 24 I just mentioned configuring Arm and mode switches in your welcome thread BigJo! Eh Snuffy, great minds and all that!? Windless fields and smokeless builds Posts: 1,504 Threads: 83 Likes Received: 944 in 654 posts Likes Given: 2,142 Joined: Sep 2016 Reputation: 24 I am new to BetaFlight/CleanFlight configuration, so someone might jump in and correct me, I dont have a cleanflight capable board but the BetaFlight UI is set up in pretty much exactly the same way... So in response to UARTs on the welcome thread, it looks like that has been configured otherwise you wouldn't have the inputs showing in the configurator. So it probably is about assigning AUX channels and switches. In the 'Receiver' tab in CleanFlight you see the bars moving with your stick inputs, right? Try switching your switches and see which AUX channels they correspond with... Now change to the 'Modes' tab and click 'Add Range' under 'Arm' and from the dropdown box, select the corresponding AUX channel to the switch you want to use. In the modes tab you can also select which flight modes you want available and which switches will activate them. Chances are that (starting out at least) you will want to be able to switch between self levelling (Angle and Horizon modes) and Manual (Acro mode) which is probably the default mode for your FC. I strongly recommend using Angle mode first, just to get an idea of how fast your quad takes off and how it reacts to you. As soon as you feel like you are comfortable with throttle control, and you understand what the stick inputs are making the quad do... TURN AUTO LEVEL OFF!!! Angle and Horizon modes teach bad habits and become a crutch, much easier to learn proper control of the craft from the start, frustrating at the early stages but, trust me, its the only way to fly! Windless fields and smokeless builds • Posts: 12 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: Aug 2017 Reputation: 1 (15-Aug-2017, 07:35 AM)Tom BD Bad Wrote: I am new to BetaFlight/CleanFlight configuration, so someone might jump in and correct me, I dont have a cleanflight capable board but the BetaFlight UI is set up in pretty much exactly the same way... So in response to UARTs on the welcome thread, it looks like that has been configured otherwise you wouldn't have the inputs showing in the configurator. So it probably is about assigning AUX channels and switches. In the 'Receiver' tab in CleanFlight you see the bars moving with your stick inputs, right? Try switching your switches and see which AUX channels they correspond with... Now change to the 'Modes' tab and click 'Add Range' under 'Arm' and from the dropdown box, select the corresponding AUX channel to the switch you want to use. In the modes tab you can also select which flight modes you want available and which switches will activate them. Chances are that (starting out at least) you will want to be able to switch between self levelling (Angle and Horizon modes) and Manual (Acro mode) which is probably the default mode for your FC. I strongly recommend using Angle mode first, just to get an idea of how fast your quad takes off and how it reacts to you. As soon as you feel like you are comfortable with throttle control, and you understand what the stick inputs are making the quad do... TURN AUTO LEVEL OFF!!! Angle and Horizon modes teach bad habits and become a crutch, much easier to learn proper control of the craft from the start, frustrating at the early stages but, trust me, its the only way to fly! Thanks Tom for the info. I'll see how it goes . I'll update later today or tomorrow. Thanks again Team.. • Posts: 12 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: Aug 2017 Reputation: 1 (15-Aug-2017, 02:20 PM)Bigjosautosales Wrote: Thanks Tom for the info. I'll see how it goes . I'll update later today or tomorrow. Thanks again Team.. Good evening Tom. I set up the arm auxiliary 1 it has a green line it's at 900 - 1200 but I still can't control the quad with the controler! I also noticed that the throttle bar it's at 1908 and not responding! Am confused!! • Posts: 100 Threads: 4 Likes Received: 86 in 55 posts Likes Given: 89 Joined: Jun 2017 Reputation: 5 (16-Aug-2017, 03:12 AM)Bigjosautosales Wrote: Good evening Tom. I set up the arm auxiliary 1 it has a green line it's at 900 - 1200 but I still can't control the quad with the controler! I also noticed that the throttle bar it's at 1908 and not responding! Am confused!! I'm not familiar with your transmitter and receiver, but i assume if the throttle bar isn't moving in receivers tab then the transmitter may not be sending that channel. Check your channel assignments on your transmitter, are Yaw(A), Pitch(E), Throttle(T) and Roll(R) inputs assigned to the correct channels? Does this match the channel mapping in cleanflight (AETR1234)? you may need to change the channel mapping to match or change the channel assignments on your transmitter to match. Also check that AUX1 for arming is actually being controlled by the switch on your transmitter. Arm is active when the switch (aux1 in your case) is within the green area, if this is not in the correct spot, you can adjust the arming area in CF to match what you need. Sorry that I can't provide more specific instructions, but I use the Taranis X7 and Betaflight. • Posts: 12 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: Aug 2017 Reputation: 1 (16-Aug-2017, 04:44 AM)Snuffypot11 Wrote: I'm not familiar with your transmitter and receiver, but i assume if the throttle bar isn't moving in receivers tab then the transmitter may not be sending that channel. Check your channel assignments on your transmitter, are Yaw(A), Pitch(E), Throttle(T) and Roll(R) inputs assigned to the correct channels? Does this match the channel mapping in cleanflight (AETR1234)? you may need to change the channel mapping to match or change the channel assignments on your transmitter to match. Also check that AUX1 for arming is actually being controlled by the switch on your transmitter. Arm is active when the switch (aux1 in your case) is within the green area, if this is not in the correct spot, you can adjust the arming area in CF to match what you need. Sorry that I can't provide more specific instructions, but I use the Taranis X7 and Betaflight. Thanks Snuffy. I did a bit research on the Arming and yes I got how it works now.. will be working on it tomorrow.. am sure the throttle issue it was caused by me ! I'll figure it out soon.! Getting closer and closer every day! Thanks again... • Posts: 1,504 Threads: 83 Likes Received: 944 in 654 posts Likes Given: 2,142 Joined: Sep 2016 Reputation: 24 (16-Aug-2017, 05:34 AM)Bigjosautosales Wrote: Thanks Snuffy. I did a bit research on the Arming and yes I got how it works now.. will be working on it tomorrow.. am sure the throttle issue it was caused by me ! I'll figure it out soon.! Getting closer and closer every day! Thanks again... So I found a board that uses cleanflight, so I can navigate with confidence now... I just manually updated to CleanFlight version 2.1.0 RC-2, and then manually updated to the most recent to 2.1.0!? (BTW a TX with throttle and yaw on the left is called 'mode 2,' on the right is 'mode 1' mode 2 is most common.) As Snuffy said, make sure that AETR1234 is set correctly (in the 'channel map' section of the 'Receiver' tab) with Yaw and Throttle on the non self-centering stick, on the other stick Roll = left and right, with Pitch = up and down. Under the 'Channel map' section you will see stick min, stick centre and stick max, make sure to check the input level sliders with your stick movements and adjust (Usually to 1000 min, 1500 centre and 2000 max) Beneath 'Stick min etc.' is 'deadband,' if your slider numbers are flickering ie. between 1499 and 1501 you can add a point or 2 of 'deadband' so this flickering does not actually influence the quad in flight. Now, where I think your real problem lies... The Arm switch. In the 'Modes' tab you will see the default position of the Arm slider is in the centre, Click the slider and move it to one side or the other. Under the slider is a small green fleck which shows the position of the switch, you can also make the slider shorter to make sure there is no chance of overlap between on and off. Setting up flight modes... Remember that its likely your default mode is 'Acro.' If you have a 3 position switch, set 'angle' and 'horizon' on the same channel (ie. AUX 2) and assign them to it, so that the 3rd position on the switch reverts to the default Acro mode. I hope this get you in the air...? And don't forget to show us the runcam footage! Windless fields and smokeless builds • Posts: 1,504 Threads: 83 Likes Received: 944 in 654 posts Likes Given: 2,142 Joined: Sep 2016 Reputation: 24 (16-Aug-2017, 03:12 AM)Bigjosautosales Wrote: I also noticed that the throttle bar it's at 1908 and not responding! Am confused!! I just thought, there might be an option to 'invert' the stick inputs in the options on your TX... might have something to do with it? Windless fields and smokeless builds • Posts: 12 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: Aug 2017 Reputation: 1 (16-Aug-2017, 07:37 PM)Tom BD Bad Wrote: So I found a board that uses cleanflight, so I can navigate with confidence now... I just manually updated to CleanFlight version 2.1.0 RC-2, and then manually updated to the most recent to 2.1.0!? (BTW a TX with throttle and yaw on the left is called 'mode 2,' on the right is 'mode 1' mode 2 is most common.) As Snuffy said, make sure that AETR1234 is set correctly (in the 'channel map' section of the 'Receiver' tab) with Yaw and Throttle on the non self-centering stick, on the other stick Roll = left and right, with Pitch = up and down. Under the 'Channel map' section you will see stick min, stick centre and stick max, make sure to check the input level sliders with your stick movements and adjust (Usually to 1000 min, 1500 centre and 2000 max) Beneath 'Stick min etc.' is 'deadband,' if your slider numbers are flickering ie. between 1499 and 1501 you can add a point or 2 of 'deadband' so this flickering does not actually influence the quad in flight. Now, where I think your real problem lies... The Arm switch. In the 'Modes' tab you will see the default position of the Arm slider is in the centre, Click the slider and move it to one side or the other. Under the slider is a small green fleck which shows the position of the switch, you can also make the slider shorter to make sure there is no chance of overlap between on and off. Setting up flight modes... Remember that its likely your default mode is 'Acro.' If you have a 3 position switch, set 'angle' and 'horizon' on the same channel (ie. AUX 2) and assign them to it, so that the 3rd position on the switch reverts to the default Acro mode. I hope this get you in the air...? And don't forget to show us the runcam footage! Thanks Tom . That's a lot of great information! But have not have a chance to work on it. As soon as I get it up in the air I'll definitely post it.. Thanks. • |