Posts: 731 Threads: 20 Likes Received: 490 in 341 posts Likes Given: 420 Joined: Nov 2019 Reputation: 20 13-Jan-2021, 01:17 AM (This post was last modified: 13-Jan-2021, 04:23 PM by jasperfpv.) Armattan is a bit late to the party but a 4" MLR is coming out soon with official release this week I believe. Some teaser pics. It might look a bit like the Diatone Roma 4 with the camera cage. Posts: 731 Threads: 20 Likes Received: 490 in 341 posts Likes Given: 420 Joined: Nov 2019 Reputation: 20 It's officially released. Bobcat Specs Frame Weight 57 grams Motor to Motor 182mm (Compressed X) 200mm (True X) Frame Shape True X or Compressed X *Modular Main Plate Thickness 2.5mm Arm Thickness 3mm Motor Mount Pattern 12x12 or 9x9mm Stack Mounting Dual M3 20x20mm & M2 16x16mm FPV Camera Mount 20mm(DJI) or 19mm Micro cam Max Stack Height 20mm Warrantied Parts All CF and alumi parts except the arms Recommended Components Motor Size 1404/2750kv ESCs 25amp 4in1 (M3 20x20) Prop Size 4inch (low pitch bi-blade) Battery LiPo 4S between 850 & 1300mAh Li-ion 4S 3000mAh (Sony VTC6) https://armattanquads.com/bobcat/ Posts: 4,731 Threads: 392 Likes Received: 3,231 in 1,827 posts Likes Given: 3,214 Joined: Apr 2019 Reputation: 101 13-Jan-2021, 06:36 PM (This post was last modified: 13-Jan-2021, 06:37 PM by the.ronin.) I've been following the teasers over at RCG. I wish they did away with the warranty on this one so they could have made it lighter. At 57 grams, its got 10g on the Diatone Roma and over 20g on the Airblade Transformer Mini which i think at 33g is the lightest so far. Flywoo's at 41g and the Katana at 37g. With that said it checks off my boxes namely proper camera cage and custom cut lipo pad so I'll get it LOL. [edit] Gahhhh no standoffs. I should have known that is an Armattan trademark design. But it makes for an epic pain in the ass designing antenna mounts. Posts: 6,157 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,297 in 1,844 posts Likes Given: 4,753 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 103 that huge cam mount xD 57g is a joke, lightweight longrange cant be done with armattans usual frame strategy. it doesnt need to be durable in terms of crashes for longrange. seems more like a spacy 4inch freestyle frame to me Posts: 4,731 Threads: 392 Likes Received: 3,231 in 1,827 posts Likes Given: 3,214 Joined: Apr 2019 Reputation: 101 But ... custom cut lipo pads!! You brought up a good point though hug ... this could be a could, quiet and discrete 4 inch freestyler. I may go that route with this one. That also fixes the antenna mount issue since I won't need ginormous antennas for that. • Posts: 788 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 543 in 341 posts Likes Given: 820 Joined: Apr 2020 Reputation: 7 14-Jan-2021, 06:38 AM (This post was last modified: 14-Jan-2021, 06:39 AM by wllmlutz.) It is a sexy frame. I'm not a big fan of the H style frames though. I feel like the arms could possibly break easier. JMO I do like the carbon fiber in the camera cage though. Definitely different and looks cool with the color contrast. • Posts: 731 Threads: 20 Likes Received: 490 in 341 posts Likes Given: 420 Joined: Nov 2019 Reputation: 20 14-Jan-2021, 10:19 AM (This post was last modified: 14-Jan-2021, 10:22 AM by jasperfpv.) The weight is similar to the IFlight Chimera 4" true X frame with 4mm bottom plate. It's the porkiest of the while lot I think. I fly the Chimera 4" as a park cruising light freestyle quad which is pretty fun. I wonder how robust Bobcat will be with those skinny 3mm arms. Arm swap looks easy enough. @ronin, Looking forward to your build thread and flight. Posts: 5,966 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,798 in 2,259 posts Likes Given: 7,776 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 Yeah, Ronin, I, too, am looking forward to your next build. Posts: 5,966 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,798 in 2,259 posts Likes Given: 7,776 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 Hi Jasper, It is a good looking frame. ![Cool Cool](https://intofpv.com/images/smilies/cool.png) ...and a nice camera mount On the other hand, it is a little heavy for my liking. It might make a nice arco or even long range craft, but it will likely not be under 250 grams AUW with a long range battery attached. Posts: 6,157 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,297 in 1,844 posts Likes Given: 4,753 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 103 (14-Jan-2021, 06:38 AM)wllmlutz Wrote: It is a sexy frame. I'm not a big fan of the H style frames though. I feel like the arms could possibly break easier. JMO I do like the carbon fiber in the camera cage though. Definitely different and looks cool with the color contrast. i didnt broke any h-style micro frame, the length is important, i guess the shorter arms are more rigid. there comes some "additional" weight from the main long body and mounting, they arent ultralight. H-style follow more the route tanky to me. Posts: 3,533 Threads: 265 Likes Received: 2,610 in 1,545 posts Likes Given: 3,893 Joined: Feb 2018 Reputation: 78 (13-Jan-2021, 11:24 PM)hugnosed_bat Wrote: that huge cam mount xD 57g is a joke, lightweight longrange cant be done with armattans usual frame strategy. it doesnt need to be durable in terms of crashes for longrange. seems more like a spacy 4inch freestyle frame to me Huggy is 100% on point. Also, I'm not a fan of Armattan as they boned me so given there are lots of other frames out there in this size category and do the LR job better, lighter, and sexier, I would go with them. Posts: 1,845 Threads: 203 Likes Received: 346 in 264 posts Likes Given: 306 Joined: May 2020 Reputation: 11 14-Jan-2021, 05:38 PM (This post was last modified: 14-Jan-2021, 05:39 PM by Rob3ddd.) I was looking at the Cougar and I don’t think it’ll make the sub 250 weight class unless using a small LiPo. I have the itch to build something but what I don’t know.Something under 250 but not necessarily LR but 1 mile any direction at low altitude would be nice. Here’s a extremely light 3” frame and with a Caddx Vista the weight before LiPo is under 100 grams. It’s a unibody and has a weak area but if updated could be a nice frame. • Posts: 4,731 Threads: 392 Likes Received: 3,231 in 1,827 posts Likes Given: 3,214 Joined: Apr 2019 Reputation: 101 So evidently there was a pricing error lol. It's $39.99 not $59.99. Posts: 731 Threads: 20 Likes Received: 490 in 341 posts Likes Given: 420 Joined: Nov 2019 Reputation: 20 14-Jan-2021, 11:43 PM (This post was last modified: 14-Jan-2021, 11:45 PM by jasperfpv.) (14-Jan-2021, 08:16 PM)the.ronin Wrote: So evidently there was a pricing error lol. It's $39.99 not $59.99. ![ROFL ROFL](https://intofpv.com/images/smilies/custom/rofl.png) $39.9!!!....... I'm going to get one from a local retailer later for an analog Fpv build. • Posts: 4,731 Threads: 392 Likes Received: 3,231 in 1,827 posts Likes Given: 3,214 Joined: Apr 2019 Reputation: 101 It sucks they didn't just cut out whoop holes. I'd def use the Tadpole whoop adapter for this. I'd lose 1 or maybe even 2 of those arm screws if the gyro scaled shows it's cool. If I go more freestyle build then I'm thinking those TBS 1505 motors for their pod racer but still with 4 inch biblades. |