(21-Feb-2018, 01:40 AM)Tom BD Bad Wrote: Happy Birthday DOP! 
A good buddy gave me the Furibee X140 (3") for my birthday in December, my best buddy bought me a plastic pull string helicopter (not suitable for children under 3 years) for Christmas!

I'm not sure I have prioritized these relationships correctly!? 

Thanks Tom. 

I think either a 2 or 3" will be equally as fun but it all depends where and how you're going to fly it, A 3" will cost almost exactly the same as a 2 or 2.5" but definitely offers a noticeable amount more performance for bigger areas and only very slightly bigger overall..

Imo all the new 1107/8, 1304, 1402/4 size motors in around 4/5/6000kv on 3s are perfect for lightweight t mount 3 inch props

I've been using very old and CHEAP rcx 1304 in 5000kv and they are fantastic at 7.5g each the next step up would probably be bh 1402 size motors

If you do build 3" I wouldn't go anywhere near 1407 size personally as its just way too much for such small props and offers no advantages and costs a fair bit more, using 1107/1304 size motors you still have all the components and correct size motors to drop down to 2" or 2.5" later if preferred


http://intofpv.com/t-tribus-117mm-3-micro heres mine for comparison running 3s 500mah and cost around £100.

it is far more agile, robust, cheaper and feels identical in speed to a 1407 build on 4s

(21-Feb-2018, 04:16 PM)ZERONEST Wrote: I think either a 2 or 3" will be equally as fun but it all depends where and how you're going to fly it, A 3" will cost almost exactly the same as a 2 or 2.5" but definitely offers a noticeable amount more performance for bigger areas and only very slightly bigger overall..

Imo all the new 1107/8, 1304, 1402/4 size motors in around 4/5/6000kv on 3s are perfect for  lightweight t mount 3 inch props

I've been using very old and CHEAP rcx 1304 in 5000kv and they are fantastic at 7.5g each the next step up would probably be bh 1402 size motors

If you do build 3" I wouldn't go anywhere near 1407 size personally as its just way too much for such small props and offers no advantages and costs a fair bit more,  using 1107/1304 size motors you still have all the components and correct size motors to drop down to 2" or 2.5" later if preferred


http://intofpv.com/t-tribus-117mm-3-micro heres mine for comparison running 3s 500mah and cost around £100.

it is far more agile, robust, cheaper and feels identical in speed to a 1407 build on 4s

I didn't ever even think about something like that. Where were you at about 18 hours ago lol!    That thing is awesome! Maybe I'll be able to do something similar as a mid-season build.

I am lucky enough to have some pretty great areas to fly though, with plenty of room. I'm going to start my build logs component list soon to share with everyone. I'm using some pretty new motors and frame that dont even have any reviews yet but seemed interesting. Gives me the opportunity to be one of the first to test and review them as well.

Hey ZeroRest, what ESC are you using to drive them? The stack that I have really come to trust on my 2.5" is the HGLRC F428, which appears will be phased out as the company shifts everything to 35+ amps. For that, there are quite a few options available based on the 20x20 board size.

NVM, just noted your build log here on IntoFPV. You are still using those particular ESC's? How are they holding up?

A friend of mine got the Emax babyhawk R 2" with 2.5" arms it is pretty nice. The babyhawk comes in a 3 inch version as well now. I got the diatone gt-r90 and it is also very good. If I could choose, I would have the electronics from gt-r90 and the motors, frame and camera from the emax. I don't think you can get a better deal then one of those quads at the moment

(21-Feb-2018, 04:54 PM)Drone0fPrey Wrote: I didn't ever even think about something like that. Where were you at about 18 hours ago lol!    That thing is awesome! Maybe I'll be able to do something similar as a mid-season build.

I am lucky enough to have some pretty great areas to fly though, with plenty of room. I'm going to start my build logs component list soon to share with everyone. I'm using some pretty new motors and frame that dont even have any reviews yet but seemed interesting. Gives me the opportunity to be one of the first to test and review them as well.

Thanks! I look forward to seeing what you come up with! and in all seriousness just about any combination of parts and build types are all amazing fun these days its really quite hard to go wrong and all down to personal preference

(21-Feb-2018, 05:47 PM)kaitylynn Wrote: NVM, just noted your build log here on IntoFPV. You are still using those particular ESC's? How are they holding up?

Yes I am still using them no issues at all so far after around 50 or so flights for 13a and 3s in such a tiny esc they are great! Although 4in1s for these size quads are far more cleaner and suited I've never had good reliability luck with 4in1s so when I found these tiny things I couldn't pass them up

I'm new to all of this and have only a couple of suped up tiny whoops. They're a ton of fun and naturally, i'm hooked and want to build more/farther/faster!

I think i'd like to venture outside a bit. Something small enough to cruise around my small back yard (i could do laps around the house and behind me there is some clear area. I live in a fairly dense town outside of Boston so not a ton of space. Of course there are parks and fields i can drive to, but i don't want to have to travel just to use it. Things that are easy to use get used more often. Oh and i also like to ride mountain bikes. It might be fun to put in a pack and then ride out in the woods and cruise around trails and trees a bit.

I also like the idea of building to rules and competing. I have a club race car so i'm familiar rulebooks. I like the idea of building to a MultiGP class simply to limit myself. It seems that there is a pretty active Boston chapter so maybe i could hook up with those guys when i get better.

So with that in mind i've been thinking about a Micro Class 2.5" 2S'er. Maybe an Airblad Eclair 2.5" frame.

A) Do you think this is the right scale for my needs?
B) Do you think it'd be too hard to fly at first?
C) Would it make more sense to just deal with brushed micros around the house/yard and build a full on 5"er and just plan to travel with it?

Thanks!

(06-Mar-2018, 05:08 AM)txbdan Wrote: I'm new to all of this and have only a couple of suped up tiny whoops. They're a ton of fun and naturally, i'm hooked and want to build more/farther/faster!

I think i'd like to venture outside a bit. Something small enough to cruise around my small back yard (i could do laps around the house and behind me there is some clear area. I live in a fairly dense town outside of Boston so not a ton of space. Of course there are parks and fields i can drive to, but i don't want to have to travel just to use it. Things that are easy to use get used more often. Oh and i also like to ride mountain bikes. It might be fun to put in a pack and then ride out in the woods and cruise around trails and trees a bit.

I also like the idea of building to rules and competing. I have a club race car so i'm familiar rulebooks. I like the idea of building to a MultiGP class simply to limit myself. It seems that there is a pretty active Boston chapter so maybe i could hook up with those guys when i get better.

So with that in mind i've been thinking about a Micro Class 2.5" 2S'er. Maybe an Airblad Eclair 2.5" frame.

A) Do you think this is the right scale for my needs?
B) Do you think it'd be too hard to fly at first?
C) Would it make more sense to just deal with brushed micros around the house/yard and build a full on 5"er and just plan to travel with it?

Thanks!

Myself personally I fly my brushed builds in and around the house and for chase filming the kids on their scooters and bikes. (which I would not do with a brushless build!)
If you are just starting out and plan on eventually venturing futher than the backyard I would recomend starting with a 2 or 3 inch brushless build. Brushed builds just lack power and will leave you wanting more, where something brushless you can fly your backyard and still have speed to take advantage of larger areas.
If you are worried about too much power, that can always be tamed down to your level and bumped back up later as you gain confidence. Instead of having to upgrade or do another build.
Sub 150mm size has become very popular and a lot of pilots even prefer their 3 inch builds over their 5's. I even find myself really enjoying the small build. Not to deffer you from trying a 5 inch build down the road though, but unless you plan on chasing some kids or pets definitely go for a brushless build.

(06-Mar-2018, 05:08 AM)txbdan Wrote: A) Do you think this is the right scale for my needs?
B) Do you think it'd be too hard to fly at first?
C) Would it make more sense to just deal with brushed micros around the house/yard and build a full on 5"er and just plan to travel with it?

Problem is there really is no perfect size quad for all situations and whilst smaller quads are of course more suited to smaller spaces they often end up lacking luster eventually and will end up always wanting something faster and more exciting eventually..

personally the best all round size I've found for everything from tight back yard ripping to big open park areas, even carrying a gopro if desired is a 4" built on 1407s If i could only have 1 it would be this size and it sounds as though I have very similar spots/conditions to fly at as you do

If built right and lightweight (sub 250g auw) it is an incredibly versatile size as you can easily run it on a 2-3s 5/600mah battery in close proximity/tight areas which has pretty amazing efficiency and ultimately unbreakable with such a low weight battery, or can throw a 850-1000mah 4s for some amazing speeds and crazy agility...

I'd also say you get the most bang for your buck at this size as a 2.5" build will almost cost around the same as a 4" build too

All of that said you will still be very pleased with a 2.5" quad and it alone will feel super quick compared to anything brushed that's for sure, its hard to give advice as until you've personally tried a few sizes its very hard to know prior to what is best suited to your needs

If you can fly something brushed on acro mode I think you should have no issues flying any size brushless drone in a short amount of time as they are often far more stable and controllable in my opinion and with far more power it actually can help get out of sticky situations or if it seems to powerful can always use a lower cell battery or even limit throttle to begin with

Hope this helps and I didn't muddy the waters too much!

The answer is clearly, "all of the quads.".

I pulled the trigger on an Airblade Eclair 2.5" frame. I look forward to the upcoming research and build!

I believe you will really enjoy the 2.5" craft. Mine has become my favorite flyer. I really thought my 2" build was fun and could not imagine that adding 1/2" would make a difference, but it really does. The DragonFly motors I am using have held up really well and offer plenty of power while staying cool.

(07-Mar-2018, 12:23 AM)kaitylynn Wrote: I believe you will really enjoy the 2.5" craft. Mine has become my favorite flyer. I really thought my 2" build was fun and could not imagine that adding 1/2" would make a difference, but it really does. The DragonFly motors I am using have held up really well and offer plenty of power while staying cool.

Nice, i think i read you saying that somewhere which helped ignite the idea. I'll start a build thread and look forward to your input!