Posts: 39 Threads: 7 Likes Received: 15 in 15 posts Likes Given: 286 Joined: Oct 2023 Reputation: 1 09-Mar-2024, 03:05 PM (This post was last modified: 09-Mar-2024, 06:20 PM by samysh.) Hi What is the best antenna for goggles with ONE receiver (Ls800d)? Note that, where I want fly the Meteor75pro and the BabyApe up in the forest, between the trees, in the large parking, and behind the buildings. I have some options, what do you think about them? - XILO AXII - VAS ION PRO - TrueRC Stubby - Lumenier AXII 2 - Lumenier Double AXII 2 Are there other suggestions? or What do you think? ►BUY ANY RTF or BNF KIT IF U R A BEGINNER◄ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (ᵔᴥᵔ) • Posts: 926 Threads: 68 Likes Received: 339 in 253 posts Likes Given: 153 Joined: Dec 2021 Reputation: 19 09-Mar-2024, 04:52 PM (This post was last modified: 09-Mar-2024, 04:53 PM by BadRaven.) Here we go, 30 people, 300 "right" answers. Firstly, what TYPE of single antenna? Def OMNI for outdoors. Secondly, I have had good results from even Banggood "Kloverleaf" budgets, and many "names" that have passed across my systems have not provided better reception. On my HDZ goggles I have two TrueRC Stubby and two TrueRC Patch, and that's a LOT of expense NOT fully obvious in reception terms! https://oscarliang.com/best-fpv-antenna/ Posts: 1,729 Threads: 60 Likes Received: 1,008 in 730 posts Likes Given: 96 Joined: Jan 2023 Reputation: 52 I think BadRaven gave some solid advice. If you are on a budget, I wouldn't even be looking at those expensive antennas, there is just not enough difference in normal flying to justify the $20+ expense. All those fancy antennas also more likely to break in a bad crash. Both the drones you mention come with a plain dipole antenna, but that should be fine for short/medium range flying. The circular polarized antennas will give a slightly less noisy image if you fly around trees/objects, but for clear LOS actually dipole will give better reception (if you do get circular polarized antennas, you have to make sure you goggles antenna matches LHCP-LHCP or RHCP-RHCP). I would say focus on getting your quads flying with what you have instead of worrying about what would be the "best" components to have on them (and in most cases there is no one "best" and can be different for everyone). You can always play around with antennas later if you decide you want to do that. Posts: 6,092 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,283 in 1,830 posts Likes Given: 4,721 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 behind buildings can be impossible, it depends on the building. i use a stubi for shortrange, or mostly. the luminier double might be whatbi would like try, nick burn does use and like it. Posts: 39 Threads: 7 Likes Received: 15 in 15 posts Likes Given: 286 Joined: Oct 2023 Reputation: 1 09-Mar-2024, 08:17 PM (This post was last modified: 09-Mar-2024, 08:18 PM by samysh.) (09-Mar-2024, 04:52 PM)BadRaven Wrote: Here we go, 30 people, 300 "right" answers. Firstly, what TYPE of single antenna? Def OMNI for outdoors. Secondly, I have had good results from even Banggood "Kloverleaf" budgets, and many "names" that have passed across my systems have not provided better reception. On my HDZ goggles I have two TrueRC Stubby and two TrueRC Patch, and that's a LOT of expense NOT fully obvious in reception terms! https://oscarliang.com/best-fpv-antenna/ thanks (09-Mar-2024, 07:39 PM)mstc Wrote: I think BadRaven gave some solid advice. If you are on a budget, I wouldn't even be looking at those expensive antennas, there is just not enough difference in normal flying to justify the $20+ expense. All those fancy antennas also more likely to break in a bad crash. Both the drones you mention come with a plain dipole antenna, but that should be fine for short/medium range flying. The circular polarized antennas will give a slightly less noisy image if you fly around trees/objects, but for clear LOS actually dipole will give better reception (if you do get circular polarized antennas, you have to make sure you goggles antenna matches LHCP-LHCP or RHCP-RHCP). I would say focus on getting your quads flying with what you have instead of worrying about what would be the "best" components to have on them (and in most cases there is no one "best" and can be different for everyone). You can always play around with antennas later if you decide you want to do that. right i will do that ty for tips ►BUY ANY RTF or BNF KIT IF U R A BEGINNER◄ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (ᵔᴥᵔ) • Posts: 39 Threads: 7 Likes Received: 15 in 15 posts Likes Given: 286 Joined: Oct 2023 Reputation: 1 (09-Mar-2024, 07:47 PM)hugnosed_bat Wrote: behind buildings can be impossible, it depends on the building. i use a stubi for shortrange, or mostly. the luminier double might be whatbi would like try, nick burn does use and like it. good choise i will see that also ►BUY ANY RTF or BNF KIT IF U R A BEGINNER◄ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (ᵔᴥᵔ) • Posts: 2,375 Threads: 74 Likes Received: 1,337 in 997 posts Likes Given: 780 Joined: Apr 2022 Reputation: 41 09-Mar-2024, 11:13 PM (This post was last modified: 09-Mar-2024, 11:15 PM by Pathfinder075.) If you can find a VAS Mad Mushroom, then that would be my choice. Not cheap (mine cost around £30) and some people dislike the company due to the owners questionable views on things, but they do make good antennas. At the same time, whether you will be able to tell the difference between a cheap cloverleaf and a Mad Mushroom is debatable. I get pretty good reception on a linear when flying in trees, fairly close by and generally don't bother with the VAS antenna unless flying in the quarries or somewhere fairly big. Yes it isn't perfect, but find me something in life that is. Try Not, Do or Do Not - Yoda Posts: 39 Threads: 7 Likes Received: 15 in 15 posts Likes Given: 286 Joined: Oct 2023 Reputation: 1 10-Mar-2024, 02:02 AM (This post was last modified: 10-Mar-2024, 02:02 AM by samysh.) (09-Mar-2024, 11:13 PM)Pathfinder075 Wrote: If you can find a VAS Mad Mushroom, then that would be my choice. Not cheap (mine cost around £30) and some people dislike the company due to the owners questionable views on things, but they do make good antennas. At the same time, whether you will be able to tell the difference between a cheap cloverleaf and a Mad Mushroom is debatable. I get pretty good reception on a linear when flying in trees, fairly close by and generally don't bother with the VAS antenna unless flying in the quarries or somewhere fairly big. Yes it isn't perfect, but find me something in life that is. interesting choice i will read about this antenna ty ►BUY ANY RTF or BNF KIT IF U R A BEGINNER◄ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (ᵔᴥᵔ) • Posts: 705 Threads: 17 Likes Received: 588 in 403 posts Likes Given: 731 Joined: Jun 2020 Reputation: 31 10-Mar-2024, 05:47 AM (This post was last modified: 10-Mar-2024, 09:08 PM by brettbrandon.) On my goggles, I use the long stem version of the Lumenier Double AXII 2, and a VAS Crosshair Extreme patch antenna. What I like about the Lumenier is that the long stem raises the actual receiving part of the antenna above my head so that the signal does not need to pass through or be interfered with by my head when the quad is behind me. I still have a VAS SkyHammer omni but I prefer the Lumenier over it. EDIT: I see that the "Ethix" version of the Mad Mushroom has a longer stem to help with head clearance. https://pyrodrone.com/products/ethix-mad...gIC1vD_BwE Posts: 5,856 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,775 in 2,237 posts Likes Given: 7,614 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 11-Mar-2024, 11:39 AM (This post was last modified: 11-Mar-2024, 11:40 AM by iFly4rotors.) Hi Samysh, Quote:Note that, where I want fly the Meteor75pro and the BabyApe up in the forest, between the trees, in the large parking, and behind the buildings. The more we know, the better the suggestions. So, tell us a little bit about your actual experience with the goggles and what you think about them so far. What antenna do you currently have on the goggles? So, how far are you actually getting with the Ls800d goggles? How does the BabyApe fly? How does it compare to the Meteor75pro? I have a VAS Skyhammer and a TrueRC patch on one set of goggles and a long shaft Lumenier Double AXII 2 and a 7 coil helical on another set of goggles. Later, iFly Posts: 116 Threads: 21 Likes Received: 49 in 34 posts Likes Given: 26 Joined: May 2018 Reputation: 0 Stubbies are nice because you dont have to take them off every time you put your goggles back in the bag/case...but a longer feedline that clears your head is probably gonna give you better performance if you fly far. Also remember to keep your head and antennas oriented properly. (I tend to gradually tilt my head down as I fly...bad habit) I like my AXII 2 stubbies and regular AXII 2's...havent tried the double, but I'd like to. Posts: 2,375 Threads: 74 Likes Received: 1,337 in 997 posts Likes Given: 780 Joined: Apr 2022 Reputation: 41 (11-Mar-2024, 08:55 PM)Green_Weedle Wrote: (I tend to gradually tilt my head down as I fly...bad habit) Don't think you are alone in that. That's like pretty much everyone. Try Not, Do or Do Not - Yoda Posts: 39 Threads: 7 Likes Received: 15 in 15 posts Likes Given: 286 Joined: Oct 2023 Reputation: 1 13-Mar-2024, 01:26 AM (This post was last modified: 13-Mar-2024, 01:26 AM by samysh.) (10-Mar-2024, 05:47 AM)brettbrandon Wrote: On my goggles, I use the long stem version of the Lumenier Double AXII 2, and a VAS Crosshair Extreme patch antenna. What I like about the Lumenier is that the long stem raises the actual receiving part of the antenna above my head so that the signal does not need to pass through or be interfered with by my head when the quad is behind me. I still have a VAS SkyHammer omni but I prefer the Lumenier over it. EDIT: I see that the "Ethix" version of the Mad Mushroom has a longer stem to help with head clearance. https://pyrodrone.com/products/ethix-mad...gIC1vD_BwE Thank you for these options I will check it out (11-Mar-2024, 11:39 AM)iFly4rotors Wrote: Hi Samysh, The more we know, the better the suggestions. So, tell us a little bit about your actual experience with the goggles and what you think about them so far. What antenna do you currently have on the goggles? So, how far are you actually getting with the Ls800d goggles? How does the BabyApe fly? How does it compare to the Meteor75pro? I have a VAS Skyhammer and a TrueRC patch on one set of goggles and a long shaft Lumenier Double AXII 2 and a 7 coil helical on another set of goggles. Later, iFly Hi, iFly Really nice options Since I started working a lot this period, so I don't fly much, but I fly when I have time (maybe once every two weekend), When I fly, I make some comparisons to see what is best for me. Maybe until the summer I will be able to fly more and better. I have Ls800d goggles, and they are very bad in terms of range, especially since they are one receiver. I use Lollipop 4 or Pagoda 2 and this is the best I have as they can only give me 50 to 100 meters of vtx. I haven't tried the BabyApe yet, but the Meteor75pro is very beautiful and very nice to fly I expect that I will buy Ev800d goggles before the stock runs out ►BUY ANY RTF or BNF KIT IF U R A BEGINNER◄ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (ᵔᴥᵔ) • Posts: 39 Threads: 7 Likes Received: 15 in 15 posts Likes Given: 286 Joined: Oct 2023 Reputation: 1 (11-Mar-2024, 08:55 PM)Green_Weedle Wrote: Stubbies are nice because you dont have to take them off every time you put your goggles back in the bag/case...but a longer feedline that clears your head is probably gonna give you better performance if you fly far. Also remember to keep your head and antennas oriented properly. (I tend to gradually tilt my head down as I fly...bad habit) I like my AXII 2 stubbies and regular AXII 2's...havent tried the double, but I'd like to. Really useful options Indeed, I noticed this the last time I was flying ►BUY ANY RTF or BNF KIT IF U R A BEGINNER◄ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (ᵔᴥᵔ) • Posts: 5,856 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,775 in 2,237 posts Likes Given: 7,614 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 13-Mar-2024, 12:46 PM (This post was last modified: 13-Mar-2024, 12:46 PM by iFly4rotors.) Hi Samysh, Check your quads. Is sounds more like a VTX power setting than the antenna on the goggles. The range sounds like the VTX is set at 25mW or maybe even Pit mode. I run all of my VTXs at 200 mW to 350 mW. Later, iFly • |