Posts: 3,533 Threads: 265 Likes Received: 2,610 in 1,545 posts Likes Given: 3,893 Joined: Feb 2018 Reputation: 78 So, as of now it looks like we all have to have completed the initial aeronautical knowledge test. I went to the FAA site after reading an email I got from them. I couldn't find a definitive date we are to have completed the test, but I seems by April 22nd we were to have the test completed before being legal to fly. The test has to be proctored and there is a fee that seems to vary locally here. I don't plan on taking any test at this point, but I'm curious if anyone else has. I know on a couple of my long range pages, none of the guys there are even aware the test is required yet. Does anyone have good info with dates, etc. on this topic? • Posts: 2,354 Threads: 118 Likes Received: 812 in 659 posts Likes Given: 127 Joined: Feb 2021 Reputation: 20 What makes u think we will all have to take this test ??? As things sit, if u are not flying for monetary reasons ($$) and ur under 250g.. I don’t foresee me taking it anytime soon.. I’m curious as to the progress with RDQs lawsuit against the FAA • Posts: 5,868 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,779 in 2,241 posts Likes Given: 7,635 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 From what I have read, you need to be registered and have a 107 license if you are flying a Part 107 operation which is ANY Flight, regardless of quad size, that results in the "Furtherance of a Business" which the FAA defines as anything that promotes {furtherance} a business which they consider pretty much everything including yourself {anything that can be promoted or receive any kind of gain}. The concept of monetary compensation is not specifically listed, but is consider one method of "furthering" a business {actually any entity that can be benefited is considered a business}. Specific examples that I have seen include a farmer overseeing his land, any YouTube posting as that is promoting one's self, or even for charitable organizations because it provides a "benefit" by promoting them. The Flight has to be purely and solely for Hobby purposes with no one gaining anything except the pilots fun and experience. .......................................................................................... Test?? Who Me?? • Posts: 5,868 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,779 in 2,241 posts Likes Given: 7,635 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 Here is a thought If they are trying to get anyone who flies a drone to take that test...it is likely less about the knowledge and more about a method to collect data...specifically, a list a people flying drones. Does the FAA intend for every kid who gets a toy drone to take that test...talk about absurdity. While I haven't seen anything regarding this "Test" so far, it seems that it would NOT {or should NOT} apply to the sub 250 gram, pure "HOBBY" flights. Just thinking • Posts: 932 Threads: 49 Likes Received: 192 in 157 posts Likes Given: 186 Joined: Jul 2020 Reputation: 11 29-Apr-2021, 04:11 PM (This post was last modified: 29-Apr-2021, 04:12 PM by Kevin2112.) The scary thing of all this and the post office just got nailed for, is that the government will be actively searching websites such as this one to create a list of names to go after. We are not far from this totalitarian society which every power hungry bureaucrat has been after. This will encroach on every activity people do in the near future if we continue to allow it to happen. It may not be safe to be on the internet at all at some point as a digital portrait of you is being created at this very moment. I’ve participated in the building of these data centers. You will be forced to defend yourself from your digital self. Sound crazy? • Posts: 21,228 Threads: 584 Likes Received: 8,957 in 6,628 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 786 I'm sure I heard something about a proposed test for recreational drone pilots in the US on one of JB's recent live streams. In the EU/UK the requirement to take a test if you pilot any kind of drone is already part of the regulations, even if the drone is under 250g. You get no concessions here for flying "toys", so there is no point breaking your back by trying to get below a certain weight threshold and have to make compromises on the build because of that. Sub-250 quads over here are only for people who want the challenge of building and flying micro quads because they want to, and not to try and avoid any regulations. • Posts: 37 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 8 in 7 posts Likes Given: 27 Joined: Jul 2020 Reputation: 0 (29-Apr-2021, 04:11 PM)Kevin2112 Wrote: The scary thing of all this and the post office just got nailed for, is that the government will be actively searching websites such as this one to create a list of names to go after. We are not far from this totalitarian society which every power hungry bureaucrat has been after. This will encroach on every activity people do in the near future if we continue to allow it to happen. It may not be safe to be on the internet at all at some point as a digital portrait of you is being created at this very moment. I’ve participated in the building of these data centers. You will be forced to defend yourself from your digital self. Sound crazy? Just Watch who you add as a friend. Government makes social media purposely addicting. I only have Wastebook for this hobby to communicate with ones that are not from my area of the country. Eliminate all others. People can't do it. • Posts: 5,868 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,779 in 2,241 posts Likes Given: 7,635 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 Maybe a "stealth" quad...strive for invisibility...fly silent and high...just a thought • Posts: 2,354 Threads: 118 Likes Received: 812 in 659 posts Likes Given: 127 Joined: Feb 2021 Reputation: 20 The whole 107 "wording" is scary, open to interpretation. I understand concerns with air safety, the problem I have is if a quad not matter how big or small once it lifts off the ground 1 inch or 1000 feet it is all piled into the same category. A mob-6 and a DJI Inspire will be treated the same when they are clearly NOT! The FAA clearly pushed this through without having ANY "system" in place....Remote ID, ok, where is it? who is making it? what are the perimeters? I wont be developed / Built in china... there is a reason the US Government doesnt use DJI... Posts: 3,533 Threads: 265 Likes Received: 2,610 in 1,545 posts Likes Given: 3,893 Joined: Feb 2018 Reputation: 78 If you go back to the original final regs on remote ID, etc., part of that was ALL drone pilots that weren't 107 trained would have to take a knowledge test. At that time there wasn't a provision for sub 250gr. Perhaps that is in the requirement now and the tiny guys won't have to for the time being. I haven't bothered to read about the regs and the testing process, I won't comply. Nor will I give up the performance that a large quad provides to hide under the 250gr window. If you're smart you won't become a victim of federal regulations. But if you want to be a legal beagle, you need to be taking a knowledge test it seems. Given that every long ranger is breaking federal law, even if sub 250gr. And probably in the neighborhood of 80% of ALL UAV pilots are in violation of federal law by not having a ham license. We don't see the feds raking in big bucks from sneaky FPV pilots wallets, I say don't worry. • Posts: 2,354 Threads: 118 Likes Received: 812 in 659 posts Likes Given: 127 Joined: Feb 2021 Reputation: 20 .. and they won’t.. UNTILL.. there is an accident.. just like they used to deal with fireworks in Ga. it was fine until I ended up in the hospital then u got fined .. Unfortunately I may have to take the 107 due to my job.. I didn’t take it before.. but I may have to if I want to be apart of my unit.. • |