Posts: 5,869 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,779 in 2,241 posts Likes Given: 7,635 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 Hi Snow, If I used a drone in the "furtherance of my business", there would already be at least one DJI, Remote ID compliant, drone in my fleet. Since this would be a business expense and a write off, why not just do it. On the other hand, those who don't use their drone for business can just wait it out with no harm, no foul. We might like to be flying every day, but can certainly live without it. Xjet is certain that the video he is creating will just blow Remote ID "out of the water". Something that will make the general public stand up and demand the Remote ID be stopped. He mentions airport disruptions, however, I don't think that he has any technical basis. We will see. Ah, but it has to happen on or about Sept. 16. Later, My Friend, iFly • Posts: 5,869 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,779 in 2,241 posts Likes Given: 7,635 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 04-Sep-2023, 01:26 PM (This post was last modified: 04-Sep-2023, 01:54 PM by iFly4rotors.) (02-Aug-2023, 03:18 PM)Pennywise Wrote: If I went up to my limit of 400' AGL, I would hit a plane flying over my house anyway. And B4UFLY "approved" my flight plan anyway, regardless that I am on the edge of the SFRA/FRZ, just telling me to "watch out" for dangers. IF you would hit a plane flying over, then you are probably too close to an airport and within a NO Fly Zone. IF you are, then just go somewhere safe to fly. The fact that there are too many apps to use just to stay legal, too many sites to peruse to stay legal, and too much conflicting information from the people making the laws, to stay legal. This shouldn't be a full time job to keep up with the laws. If cops aren't required to know the laws, how is the onus on us peons? Hi Pennywise, To me, the FAA website is really the only authority on the regulations which haven't changed much over the years. In fact, change is slow. This remote ID thing is really the only thing that has changed in many years and it has been over 3 years in the making. All of the other regulations seem to have been in place since 2016. So, once you read the FAA regulations and understand them, then you are good to go. The regulations simply don't change much over time. Having read the FAA regulations (more than once), I don't see the conflicting information. If you fly sub-250 gram craft for recreation only, then there are really only a handful of specific things. Even for over 250 grams craft, the regulations are pretty concise and basically just add registration of the drone (and soon, Remote ID). Now, if you want to fly a Part 107 activity, then there are more things including a Part 107 pilots license. Overall, the regulations seem to be progressive from less to more depending on the intent of the flight and use of the video. From what I have seen, the confusion comes from YouTubers who either don't really understand the regulations or don't want to follow them and are looking for a way to violate the regulations (because they don't like them) without getting caught. Be aware that it is not our interpretation, but rather the FAA's interpretation. In my opinion, the most violated FAA regulation is flying Beyond Visual Line of Sight. Secondly, not having a co-located spotter for FPV flights. Yes, this is a big irritation for FPV pilots, but it just is what it is. Since I didn't want to register my quads, I made the decision some years ago to fly sub 250-gram drones and fly solely and purely for my own FUN, so NO registration, NO remote ID, no fuss, no muss, just FUN. Oh yeah, I only fly within Visual Line Of Sight. No Worries, No Problems. Since our house is not in a No Fly zone, I could fly in our yard, however, the property is pretty small so I only fly tiny whoops and very small quads in our yard. I do all my serious flying in remote, rural areas where there are very few, if any, people. Plus, I don't post videos to YouTube because getting a "Like" is in the furtherance of one's personal "business" and a Part 107 activity. So, I just don't post the video and all is good. You know, I checked AirMap on my computer once, determined where the No Fly zones are located, and haven't used it sine. These zones are pretty much fixed areas. Ok, if the President comes to town then there are a bunch more, but who wants to video him anyway. Well, I only fly in rural areas anyway. In summary, once you have read and understand the regulation from the FAA website and checked once for the No Fly zones in the area that you want to fly, then you are done. Two websites and basically one visit for each. Then you go fly. Later, iFly • Posts: 21,245 Threads: 586 Likes Received: 8,962 in 6,632 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 787 For anyone who in intending to comply with the Remote ID regulations, Flite Test have an interesting Remote ID module offering that they will be releasing soon called the FT EZ ID module. Details are in the post linked to below... https://intofpv.com/t-flite-test-ez-id-remote-id-module Posts: 5,869 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,779 in 2,241 posts Likes Given: 7,635 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 04-Sep-2023, 01:48 PM (This post was last modified: 04-Sep-2023, 01:54 PM by iFly4rotors.) (04-Sep-2023, 01:27 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: For anyone who in intending to comply with the Remote ID regulations, Flite Test have an interesting Remote ID module offering that they will be releasing soon called the FT EZ ID module. Details are in the post linked to below... https://intofpv.com/t-flite-test-ez-id-remote-id-module Hi Snow, If I was in the market for one, that one looks pretty nice. That said, I just went to Flight Test store to see how to purchase, however, it is not yet available. They say August?? From what I can tell, a lot (Most?) FPV pilots are also builders, so we have options since we are already soldering on FC boards and such. On the other hand, it seems that the vast majority of drone pilots fly DJI gear and maybe they lack the technical skills to wire in a Remote ID unit. It is these folks who are looking for a completely stand alone, stick on the top, Remote ID module that does not require any electrical connection to the quad. Yeah, these types of Remote ID modules tend to cost more and that is an irritation for those pilots. To make matters worse, many are Part 107 pilots and will need a remote ID for each quad that they have registered. The positive side to this is that it is a business write off. Yet, they still complain. Later, My Friend, iFly • Posts: 4,073 Threads: 75 Likes Received: 2,548 in 1,858 posts Likes Given: 3,949 Joined: May 2021 Reputation: 121 04-Sep-2023, 05:43 PM (This post was last modified: 04-Sep-2023, 05:44 PM by Lemonyleprosy.) I’m keeping an eye on the FT ez id. It’ll probably be the one that I get sometime down the road. I’m a bit curious about the gps side of things- my reading/understanding of the regulations is that the pilot is just required to make sure that the module is transmitting prior to takeoff, so how does that work with/without a gps fix? It’ll be transmitting data prior to a gps fix, and I’m far too impatient to wait for a gps fix- I’m a, “do safety checks, strap a battery in and fly” kind of person. Some clarity on what is actually legally required of us would be nice, but that seems like it might be a bit too much to ask. Dangerous operations. Disclaimer: I don’t know wtf I’m talking about. I wish I could get the smell of burnt electronics out of my nose. • Posts: 1,747 Threads: 60 Likes Received: 1,026 in 740 posts Likes Given: 97 Joined: Jan 2023 Reputation: 52 And yes what if you install it next to your WS VTX and it never gets a fix... Posts: 558 Threads: 21 Likes Received: 303 in 221 posts Likes Given: 319 Joined: Jan 2023 Reputation: 6 04-Sep-2023, 06:29 PM (This post was last modified: 04-Sep-2023, 06:30 PM by QuadFlyer68.) Oh darn, it never got a fix .... (?) Probably should protect that GPS antenna and mount it under the flight stack, you know, to protect it. _____________________________________ Walksnail / Avatar … It’s better than analog ! Posts: 5,869 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,779 in 2,241 posts Likes Given: 7,635 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 Posts: 21,245 Threads: 586 Likes Received: 8,962 in 6,632 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 787 Direct from the FAA. It looks like implementation of Remote ID isn't going to be delayed with the 16th September 2023 date still standing, but there will likely be some kind of grace period of days or weeks before people have to comply, mainly due to lack of availability of Remote ID modules and additional time being taken to process FRIA applications. See the video linked to below. Fast forward to time position 4:35 for details regarding an official email reply from the FAA... Posts: 21,245 Threads: 586 Likes Received: 8,962 in 6,632 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 787 There are some interesting stats in Pilot Institute's latest video linked to below which shows that it would be impossible for Remote ID module manufacturers to provide enough hardware for all US pilots to comply with Remote ID by 16th September 2023. In fact, it seems that even by March 2024 it would still be impossible for everyone to have complied by then due to lack of Remote ID hardware in the supply chain Posts: 5,869 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,779 in 2,241 posts Likes Given: 7,635 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 Moving, at least the enforcement, down to March 2024 seems reasonable. On the one hand, it looks like a close race. At the current RID module production rate, it does look like there would not be enough modules even then. On the other hand, no one knows how fast production could be scaled up. DJI is also a major player so if they get the firmware updates all done by Dec. 2023, then the March 2024 date seems reasonable. Of course, we are only talking about self contained "stick on" modules and NOT the rest of the wire in, DIY, modules such as CubePilot or FT EZ-ID. Consider that there might be a packaging opportunity here. If a company could buy or produce "boxes" and package the DIY modules into something that could be stand alone, then this might be an opportunity. I have thought that this could be done, but I don't have the time or resources at the moment so it wouldn't be something for me. • Posts: 21,245 Threads: 586 Likes Received: 8,962 in 6,632 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 787 So it looks like the FAA have now officially deferred enforcement of Remote ID for 6 months (until march 16th 2024). Bruce has covered the topic in his video linked to below. Official FAA Announcement: https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-extends...six-months • Posts: 4,073 Threads: 75 Likes Received: 2,548 in 1,858 posts Likes Given: 3,949 Joined: May 2021 Reputation: 121 13-Sep-2023, 05:24 PM (This post was last modified: 13-Sep-2023, 05:24 PM by Lemonyleprosy.) Direct from the FAA’s Facebook page, RID requirement has been extended to March 16, 2024: And from their website: https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-extends...tid=Zxz2cZ Edit- hah, Snow beat me to it by a minute. Dangerous operations. Disclaimer: I don’t know wtf I’m talking about. I wish I could get the smell of burnt electronics out of my nose. • Posts: 5,869 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,779 in 2,241 posts Likes Given: 7,635 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 Good ! Now everyone can take a break, breathe, and work on getting Remote ID on the gear that needs it. Remote ID manufacturers get busy. DJI get that firmware updated. Pilots, place your orders now, don't wait until next February. Interestingly, it doesn't really change anything; just pushes the enforcement date down 6 months. Well, I guess there is that. So, next March RID is in full force with fines and everything. If you think about it, all of this fanfare and ranting has given Remote ID quite a bit of exposure. Folks have complained about it who didn't even know it was going into effect. It really is a very interesting advertising approach. Of course, the FAA probably didn't count on X-Jet (Bruce) spreading the word so effectively. Now, everyone knows. It also gives the "tracking" software and hardware folks a bit more time to perfect their offerings as well. March 16, 2024 = Game On. The clock is ticking. • Posts: 21,245 Threads: 586 Likes Received: 8,962 in 6,632 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 787 |