(21-Feb-2022, 10:03 PM)iFly4rotors Wrote: If you don't mind soldering, it would be cheaper to by a FlySky receiver.
Yes, there would be some soldering, but it would be minimal.

I thought about that, but then I looked at it and I’m unsure how to solder an FSi6B? It’s a plug in receiver rather than one with wires to solder?

I thought I’m probably going to need a FRSKY compatible TX at some point so may aswell get one now.

Would a FRSKY Taranis X9D be compatible with a FrySky Archer RS 2.4Ghz Access Receiver?

Also I notice that this is an ACCESS receiver, I see a lot of Taranis X9D (and other Frsky TXs) say ACCST not ACCESS. Are the ACCST TXs ACCESS compatible? Are all FRSKY TXs compatible with FrySky Archer RS 2.4Ghz Access Receiver? Any helps great. Cheers all

(21-Feb-2022, 10:09 PM)JustJack Wrote: I thought about that, but then I looked at it and I’m unsure how to solder an FSi6B? It’s a plug in receiver rather than one with wires to solder?

I thought I’m probably going to need a FRSKY compatible TX at some point so may aswell get one now.

Would a FRSKY Taranis X9D be compatible with a FrySky Archer RS 2.4Ghz Access Receiver?

Also I notice that this is an ACCESS receiver, I see a lot of Taranis X9D (and other Frsky TXs) say ACCST not ACCESS. Are the ACCST TXs ACCESS compatible? Are all FRSKY TXs compatible with FrySky Archer RS 2.4Ghz Access Receiver? Any helps great. Cheers all

  It has to be a Access (2019) FrSky transmitter.

(21-Feb-2022, 10:09 PM)JustJack Wrote: I thought about that, but then I looked at it and I’m unsure how to solder an FSi6B? It’s a plug in receiver rather than one with wires to solder?

You can solder in any receiver. If it has plugs on you would just cut them off the FC end and solder the wires direct to pads on the FC instead.

I personally wouldn't stick an FS-IA6B receiver in that quad. It's a big (and old) clunky receiver. You would be better off getting and using something like the Flysky compatible Fli14+ receiver.

Agree with Snow, get the Fli14+ receiver.

(21-Feb-2022, 11:59 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: You can solder in any receiver. If it has plugs on you would just cut them off the FC end and solder the wires direct to pads on the FC instead.

I personally wouldn't stick an FS-IA6B receiver in that quad. It's a big (and old) clunky receiver. You would be better off getting and using something like the Flysky compatible Fli14+ receiver.

Thanks for your help here.

Budget aside, I’m thinking long term FrSky is the better/more popular TX/RX system. Do you think I’m best off investing in a compatible TX now rather than changing the receiver?

(22-Feb-2022, 08:26 AM)JustJack Wrote: Thanks for your help here.

Budget aside, I’m thinking long term FrSky is the better/more popular TX/RX system. Do you think I’m best off investing in a compatible TX now rather than changing the receiver?

Keep reading up on Frsky here and I think you'll find that most people will tell you to stay away from it. If you purchase an x9d that doesn't mean it's out of the box compatible with all the frsky bind and fly models you'll see available, particularly the really small whoops. I'd be looking at Express LRS if I was getting into the hobby today. A year ago for me it was TBS either Tracer or Crossfire, I went Tracer.

My first BNF quad came with Frsky rxsr, which is where I first found the landmine of accst vs access firmware. Even fully updated to access it had pitiful range and reception. Constant chatter and warnings about signal and rssi from the radio when on frsky, on Tracer not a peep except for when the quad powers down. 

That doesn't mean you still can't go with the x9d, most of these full sized radios and the smaller gamer style models have rx bays that you can use. Even a frsky module (XJT) in your frsky radio that should have already had the protocols built in. Probably better to get a Radiomaster TX16s than an x9d if I was buying today.

(22-Feb-2022, 12:38 PM)sevro Wrote: Keep reading up on Frsky here and I think you'll find that most people will tell you to stay away from it. If you purchase an x9d that doesn't mean it's out of the box compatible with all the frsky bind and fly models you'll see available, particularly the really small whoops. I'd be looking at Express LRS if I was getting into the hobby today. A year ago for me it was TBS either Tracer or Crossfire, I went Tracer.

My first BNF quad came with Frsky rxsr, which is where I first found the landmine of accst vs access firmware. Even fully updated to access it had pitiful range and reception. Constant chatter and warnings about signal and rssi from the radio when on frsky, on Tracer not a peep except for when the quad powers down. 

That doesn't mean you still can't go with the x9d, most of these full sized radios and the smaller gamer style models have rx bays that you can use. Even a frsky module (XJT) in your frsky radio that should have already had the protocols built in. Probably better to get a Radiomaster TX16s than an x9d if I was buying today.

Thank you. Tbh, I think I may try and find a cheapish TX16s as I know that will pretty much be BNF with all quads wont it?

FrSky transmitters are generally well built and reliable but only buy one if you intend to use it with an external module. I have an old (2018 model) FrSky X9D+ SE which is an absolute tank and which I love, but I only use the built in ACCST module with whoops in D8 mode and for my other quads I have a Crossfire module in the back of it. New versions of the FrSky transmitters (branded "ACCESS") with the latest firmware only natively work with the ACCESS and ACCST D16 2.x.x receivers. Most whoops are running D8 mode or ACCST D16 1.x.x receivers so they aren't compatible. Unfortunately FrSky have created a complete mess with their receiver and firmware ecosystem that just causes endless headaches and frustrations.

So I would either get a Flysky receiver like the Fli14+ which will work with your current transmitter and wire that to the FC, or look a at a different ecosystem like ExpressLRS, TBS Crossfire, TBS Tracer, or ImmersionRC Ghost. The latter 4 are of course more expensive but they also generally just work without too many headaches and are also future proof. FrSky modules and receivers are now pretty much dead in the FPV multirotor world. Their transmitters are still fine if you intend to use external modules in them, but only ones that are capable of running OpenTX or EdgeTX (so not the Tandem X20).

1. There are no photo of your parts

2. Why are all telling you to get FlySky receiver?? Do you have FlySky radio?

3. 2450 motor is 2450kv I assume. What is size? 2207?

4. Assuming nothing is damaged, and noise issues, once you get a good tune, it should fly very good.

I would suggest NOT getting any FrSky transmitter.

One of the best and very popular transmitters today is the RadioMaster TX16S which comes with
an internal 4 in 1 multi-protocol module {which supports FlySky, FrSky ACCST D8 and D16, Spectrum, 
and even the Bayang "toy" protocol}. It does support all of the current FrSky XM+ receivers since
these are not capable of running ACCESS. The RadioMaster TX16S transmitter should work with your 
original quad and this other one should you decide to buy it.

Next, figure out what other protocol you want and buy a module for the JR bay. Pretty much all of
the serious long range pilots and many others use TBS Crossfire as it is well established as the long
range "king" and it just works. The new ELRS protocol is becoming popular for the short to mid range,
general purpose, and built in protocol because it is more cost effective. It is the newest protocol,
is open source, and is basically just getting started. It is becoming popular very fast.  Then there are 
several other protocols that are somewhere in the middle. 

My next transmitter will be a RadioMaster TX16S. I will probably also go with ELRS as my second
protocol. If I ever go long range, then I will get TBS Crossfire for that since I believe that is the
best. For long range, I want the absolute BEST that I can get; something that I can
count on when the quad is way out there.

(22-Feb-2022, 03:21 PM)iFly4rotors Wrote: I would suggest NOT getting any FrSky transmitter.

One of the best and very popular transmitters today is the RadioMaster TX16S which comes with
an internal 4 in 1 multi-protocol module {which supports FlySky, FrSky ACCST D8 and D16, Spectrum, 
and even the Bayang "toy" protocol}. It does support all of the current FrSky XM+ receivers since
these are not capable of running ACCESS. The RadioMaster TX16S transmitter should work with your 
original quad and this other one should you decide to buy it.

Next, figure out what other protocol you want and buy a module for the JR bay. Pretty much all of
the serious long range pilots and many others use TBS Crossfire as it is well established as the long
range "king" and it just works. The new ELRS protocol is becoming popular for the short to mid range,
general purpose, and built in protocol because it is more cost effective. It is the newest protocol,
is open source, and is basically just getting started. It is becoming popular very fast.  Then there are 
several other protocols that are somewhere in the middle. 

My next transmitter will be a RadioMaster TX16S. I will probably also go with ELRS as my second
protocol. If I ever go long range, then I will get TBS Crossfire for that since I believe that is the
best for long range. For long range, I want the absolute BEST that I can get; something that I can
count on when the quad is way out there.

So if I was to Purchase a Radiomaster TX16S would I also need to purchase a module in order for it to work with this new drone (See parts in original post)? From my understanding the module is only used when the receiver uses a protocol that isnt supported by the TX? Which in the case of the TX16s would be required if the receiver was not one of the following protocols:
- FLYSKY
- FRSKY
-Spectrum
-Bayang.

Sorry if this is obvious. Trying to gain a good understanding of everything FPV related.

(22-Feb-2022, 03:27 PM)JustJack Wrote: So if I was to Purchase a Radiomaster TX16S would I also need to purchase a module in order for it to work with this new drone (See parts in original post)? From my understanding the module is only used when the receiver uses a protocol that isnt supported by the TX? Which in the case of the TX16s would be required if the receiver was not one of the following protocols:
- FLYSKY
- FRSKY
-Spectrum
-Bayang.

Sorry if this is obvious. Trying to gain a good understanding of everything FPV related.

Hi JustJack,

The 4 protocols you listed are included in the 4-in-1 module and many more. The 4-in-1 does not
mean those 4 protocols, it means 4 different chipsets that run many different protocols. The 4 that
you listed may be the most popular, but there a many others that are included.

List of protocols in the 4-in-1 module.   Evidently they keep adding protocols.

(22-Feb-2022, 03:27 PM)JustJack Wrote: So if I was to Purchase a Radiomaster TX16S would I also need to purchase a module in order for it to work with this new drone (See parts in original post)? From my understanding the module is only used when the receiver uses a protocol that isnt supported by the TX? Which in the case of the TX16s would be required if the receiver was not one of the following protocols:
- FLYSKY
- FRSKY
-Spectrum
-Bayang.

Sorry if this is obvious. Trying to gain a good understanding of everything FPV related.

The quad you are looking at buying has an FrSky Archer receiver in it. That receiver only works with the FrSky ACCESS protocol which is an encrypted proprietary FrSky protocol that is only (and can only) be used by FrSky transmitters. The internal 4-in-1 internal module in the RadioMaster TX16S will not (and cannot) work with an ACCESS receiver. Neither can any of the other multiprotocol modules on the market because none of them utilise the ACCESS protocol which is a closed system.

So unless you get an FrSky ACCESS transmitter you won't be able to make use of that Archer receiver and you will have to replace it.

(22-Feb-2022, 09:21 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: The quad you are looking at buying has an FrSky Archer receiver in it. That receiver only works with the FrSky ACCESS protocol which is an encrypted proprietary FrSky protocol that is only (and can only) be used by FrSky transmitters. The internal 4-in-1 internal module in the RadioMaster TX16S will not (and cannot) work with an ACCESS receiver. Neither can any of the other multiprotocol modules on the market because none of them utilise the ACCESS protocol which is a closed system.

So unless you get an FrSky ACCESS transmitter you won't be able to make use of that Archer receiver and you will have to replace it.

Oh really? The reason I started looking at the TX16s is because the guy I’m buying off uses that without a module on it?

(22-Feb-2022, 09:42 PM)JustJack Wrote: Oh really? The reason I started looking at the TX16s is because the guy I’m buying off uses that without a module on it?

You can't use a TX16S with an FrSky Archer receiver.

Look under the "Specifications" tab in the FrSky Archer RS product web page HERE.

• Dimension: 16*11*2.5mm (L*W*H)
  
• Weight: 1.3g
  
• 16/24 SBUS Output Channels
  
• Operating Voltage Range: 3.5 -10V
  
• Operating Current: ＜60mA@5V
  
• Control Range: Full range* with telemetry
  (*Full Range: ＞2km, range may vary based on local conditions.)
  
• Compatibility: All FrSky ACCESS transmitters
  

Then take a look at the multiprotocol module protocols page HERE and tell me where you see FrSky ACCESS as a supported protocol. The answer is you won't because all of the protocols supported by multiprotocol modules have been reverse engineered from official manufacturer hardware and was the whole reason that FrSky came up with teir new encrypted ACCESS protocol so that no-one would be able to reverse engineer it make their own compatible hardware/firmware.

Are you sure it's an Archer receiver in the quad and and not an R-XSR receiver (that can run ACCST firmware which is one that's supported by the multiprotocol modules)?

Now you can see what a mess FrSky have made of things and why people will no longer touch them with a (very long) barge pole.