I'd like to start a discussion comparing analog goggles available (but not necessarily in stock because nothing is?) in 2024. It is just too easy in FPV land to choose a product and find out later it was not the right one, LOL.
Hypothetical situation, someone needs new goggles (not box goggles) and happens to own a rapidFire module. So at the one end of the scale we have something like the SKY02O at around $330 which does not need the rapidFIRE and would only ever be used for analog. But by the time we get to the other extreme high end goggles from Skyzone, Fatshark, Orqa, etc. you might as well decide analog is dead and buy a set of HDZero's and plug in the rapidFIRE. Sure it costs twice as much but no one is complaining about that set up. I'm not seeing anything in between really...

I have the hdzero. I use the analog module a lot for flying tinywhoops where the weight really matters. For everything else I'm flying digital. I do find the image easier to take in on the hdzero analog than on my analog cobra x v2.

.. can’t beatHDZero’s customer support.. I got the second shipment goggles with the loose optics… I shipped them out and they were back on my head that SAME WEEK.!!
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If money is no object, while the HDZero Goggles work reasonably well with analog, there are still some analog related issues / bugs and some analog modules play less well with them than others do, RapidFIRE being one of the modules I see most people complaining abut, so you if you are looking at getting the HDZero Goggles then you might do better getting yourself a different module such as a TBS Fusion, but that obviously adds more to the overall cost. Some people also complain that the HDZero Goggles over sharpen the image and give less of a natural image.

If you are still flying analog quite a lot then you might be better going for pure analog goggles that are dedicated to the job such as the Skyzone SKY04X or the newer Pro version of the same. Again though, these are in premium price territory.

With all the shenanigans that have been going on with Orqa I'm not sure if I would invest money in brand new Orqa goggles right now unless you are able to get hold of a good pre-owned pair at a reasonable price. But that's just my opinion.

If you just want something for occasional use then maybe look at the cheaper SKY02O like you mentioned or a good pre-owned pair of FatShark goggles that can take your current RapidFIRE module.

(11-Mar-2024, 09:19 PM)Rob Axel Wrote: .. can’t beatHDZero’s customer support.. I got the second shipment goggles with the loose optics… I shipped them out and they were back on my head that SAME WEEK.!!
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I'm afraid I can't say I had the same experience. Divimath support took forever to get back to me about getting the actual repair done after going back and forth with them a number of times, but maybe I just got unlucky. On the other hand, my local vendor who was tasked with doing the repair turned them round in less than a week. It just took Divimath months to get the repair process initiated. I asked them if they would like to consider sending me a free WiFi module for the inconvenience they had put me through but they completely ignored that suggestion, so I got nothing in the way of compensation for them having sent me faulty goggles in the first place and then making me wait months to get a repair initiated.

Darnit, sorry to hear your woes Snow. You would think looking in the rear view mirror that giving you a free WIFI module would have been a fair idea.

I have the HDZ goggles and WS thingie so should be good to go on all three, it's been a while, many detours but hopefully flying again in another month or so.

Anyway, this vid helped me choose the RapifFire module over the Fusion module:

Thanks. I guess I'm not missing an obvious solution
The compatibility issue with HDZ and RapidFIRE seems pretty isolated, lots of people are fine with it, like @skywanderer. What are you using as a transition piece? I think it is great that you have all the options available now. HDZ now has Tiny Whoop compatible airborne units for $70! RTF Mobula6 for $150! This is not good for the future of analog.
That said the used market is something I will be looking at while I wait to hear back from Fatshark about repairing my HD3's and/or other goggles like the SKY02O becoming in stock.
FWIW I still have my first gen Headplays but I don't like flying with them anymore. I also have a really old pair of Fatshark Attitudes with a module on them that I can't remember the brand, and I'm not home today. Tiny screens on those. I'm a bit spoiled now.
Where do you guys shop FPV classifieds? Not much going on on this site.

There are still some serious weight savings with analog because of the All In One boards. HDZero requires a flight controller and the separate vtx, which is unfortunately still a lot of extra weight on a 65mm tinywhoop. It means the difference between being able to perform top-notch aerobatics vs just cruising. I do love my HDZ goggles, but if I were going from scratch I would consider getting used analog gear and used DJI gear I think. There's very little used HDZero gear on the market.

I hear you, a little weight on a whoop is a big deal. But times they are a changing... FWIW I still have a nice collection of analog and enjoy flying them, but I'm not a god enough pilot or a competitor that needs to fly analog.

Another pair of goggles that went under the radar is the Skyzone SKY04O goggles at $360 which are is almost half the price of the HDZero Goggles once you also factor in the additional $50 cost of a analog module expansion bay. If you have plans to make use of HDZero VTX's then the HDZero Goggles are probably the obvious choice, otherwise they are an expensive option for just flying analog with along with the various issues that some people seem to be having with analog. Looking at the reported issues it looks like different firmware versions seem to better support different modules, and a number of people have rolled back from the 9.3.x firmware to 9.2.0 firmware to resolve some of the problems they've been having.

Anyway, here are links to the Skyzone SKY04O goggles...

• Standard Version: https://www.skyzonefpv.com/collections/g...w-receiver
  
• Pro Version: https://www.skyzonefpv.com/collections/g...g-receiver
  

And here are the differences between the different Skyzone SKY04 variations...

At sales prices the 04O or 04O Pro (same price but I like the JPEG DVR) it looks like it would be worth the difference from the 02O for the higher resolution OLED screens. Thanks for pointing that out. And I did not realize a module bay for the HDZ was $50. I thought it was just a piece of plastic...
If I got the HDZ for analog and never used it for HD that would be a waste, but I'm smarting from going for the GogglesX and now finding my self shopping again
I should be patient and wait for an analog solution for the GogglesX! I would love to hear from someone who has used the HDZ and Skyzone goggle, in terms of which are more comfortable to wear and use, or for picture quality. Then I would know if spending HDZ bucks for analog only goggles was a total waste.. SKY 04O Pro + HDZ VRX is same price as HDZ goggles, making that choice a no loss proposition. And I do have a friend with a pair of Skyzones (?) who would let me fly them. I was impressed by them when he showed them to me, the image seemed better than my HD3 and they were well made.

The newest V2 expansion module bay for the HDZero Goggles isn't just a plastic housing. It also contains a WiFi circuit board which is why it costs $50. It can be used to stream an image out of the goggles to a phone or a computer (using VLC Media Player as a client), but the latency is quite high at around 1-2 seconds so it's not really useable for flying with. Only as a ride-along feed.

I only have the older V1.5 module bay in mine which contains a circuit board that isn't populated with the WiFi chipset, so it's just a "dumb" module bay without WiFi functionality which was cheaper ($30), but Divimath unfortunately don't sell that version anymore for people who might only want analog module compatibility without the WiFi capabilities.

Learning a lot, thanks!

Interesting topic. Thought to add my 2cents to it as well

If you want the 3 systems (analog, hdz,walksnail), then I think the HDZ goggles would probably be the better choice atm imo.. Assuming you would always leave the analog module fixed on the goggles, you would only have to worry about one module to connect walksnail, whereas if you go with an analog goggle then you would have to carry 2.
I havent done the math, but the 2 options might even come down to similar prices if buying everything new (hdz goggle +analog bay+walksnail vrx vs skyzone 040(x) Pro + hdz vrx + walksnail vrx). Having said that, there are a bunch of used vrxs on the market, so that could help decide for one over the other if price is a concern.

If however you only plan on flying with only 2 systems, analog being one of them, then I would seriously think about the new skyzone040 Pro for the price, and if budget allows, even the 040x pro version with the better hdmi interface. The previous 040x are great and I would expect the new ones to be at least on par with it adding the full hd res display..

I have Walksnail and analog quads. I have Walksnail goggles. The question is boilng down to whether to buy pure analog goggles or HDZ. I agree the SKY04O Pro would be a solid choice. But the HDZ with a Rapidfire module is very popular. It seems like all the YT reviewers have that.