(07-Dec-2023, 09:33 PM)hugnosed_bat Wrote: what cam do you have?
analog video does just transmitt 600tvl, the tvl arent the important thing on  a cam for analog

do you use the original vtx from the vegance? thats very outdated. get a tbs unify or a decent analog vtx, that wont give hd resolution but paired with a good cam like a caddx ratel, a very nice fpv view ;-)

the vengeance come stock with a 1200tvl,,it come with a vtx that if you snip a wire it goes from 20 to 200mw ..i snipped it and it was the same. I do have a ts5823 mini i could maybe wire into it. Not sure since this is a all in one board that has 3 wires in a plug at the front that travels all the back to the vtx. The 3 wires magically change to 5 wires going into the hyperion vtx. this ts5823 i got for free has the plug but only 2 wires are sticking out,,the rest are cut. the ts5823 has ground,audio,video,ground,7-24v.  I could find soldering points and wire it up but i'm unsure which wires do what on the hyperion. I looked at it better and they have 5 wires going to the vtx:2 red,a brown,a black and a yellow. I noticed halfway through that they have 1 red and the brown cut and not used. 

 I did just find soldering points for a vtx and camera...so whats the best choice for a vtx and camera? i'll stick with this drone for awhile but can upgrade. I read that a runcam phoenix 2 special edition was a good camera,,i can't spend a lot. FX796T Video Transmitter VTX - 5.8GHz 40CH - Oscar Liang I was able to read the numbers off the vtx. Not sure if i just dont have the right antennas,,have the one that come with it and another mushroom top that looks basically the same. I tried using just the single antenna fatshark,,,then tried the immersion duo with two antennas hooked up and it was switching between both constantly..it beeps when it does that. i have about 6 antennas that i tried on the duo. Anyways this stock 1200tvl camera looks great 2 feet away and closer,,,everything else is dark and cant make out branches of trees. I didnt try with the cinemizers because i dont have the rubber eyeshade for them. I have to make something. So is that a good vtx and i just have bad antenna's? and will the phoenix work?

Caddx Baby Ratel 2 1200TVL 1.8mm FPV 4:3/16:9 Camera just bought this for 35 shipped. I like the wide angle and it will fit in my hyperion. Now i have to find a vtx right? Team Blacksheep TBS Unify Pro 5G8 V3...or something else? hopefully something cheaper

Edit..while searching around i found a quad for sale with the following:
Xhover 5”
Folds up
Tbs core pro
Kde esc’s
Kde 2306 2050kv motors
Castle bec
Cc3d fc
Gps
Tbs boss vtx
Yup this is an older quad but with new fc itd ve good quad still
Ill toss in a cam if I find a spare
$65

the tbs boss is 500mw,,,do i really need 800 and throw it in a cheap hyperion vengeance for 45$ or should i buy this quad and will i be happy with 500mw? I already have the camera on the way if he doesn't throw a nicer cam in. Sucks i bought the baby caddx since i don't think it'll fit his quad., wish you guys were around to help me out right now.

there are many choices, but an unify nano pro32; able to go up to 500mw will be worse the 30$

maybe a good videolink is enough and your actual cam will do the job. you could change fpv gear step by step.

otherwise you could buy a cheap pnp modle line the darwinfpv babyape for about the same money of a cam and a decent vtx xD
maybe try out a new generation of quads, micros, would bring you more than the vegance... micros are more durable and less expensive than a hyperion vegance. the fun on the vegance will be very limited and any part might close to a cheap pnp micro, value for money is very bad on a hyperion for a low budget, stay away from the hyperion project

heres what im getting for 100$...I think im set! Anyone know what flight controller the white one is?
https://ibb.co/pzHMqzM
https://ibb.co/6F51sYb
https://ibb.co/0cmgH8T
https://ibb.co/47GFMJp
https://ibb.co/c8Mg1KB
https://ibb.co/Hnq0fQw

The pictures are too big to attach them. But i'm excited!

The white FC is an old Lumenier F4 "Advanced" FC which is based on a CC3D FC from around the 2015 era. Lumenier is GetFPV's own in-house FPV brand. You can find details on that FC at the link below...

https://www.getfpv.com/f4-advanced-fligh...2f405.html

GetFPV Wrote:About this product

This is a next gen. flight controller featuring the STM32F405 processor and MPU6000 gyro. The advanced F4 processor gives this FC incredible precision and control while in the air. This flight controller includes 3 UART connections with SBUS, PPM or Serial RX and has a 3.3v output for Spektrum receivers as well as a hardware boot button. The board has been designed around the popular CC3D Revolution target and is fully support by RaceFlight, BetaFlight and CleanFlight. It comes preloaded with BetaFlight firmware.

Specifications

• Weight: 5g
  
• 36mm x 36mm (standard 30.5mm between mounting holes)
  
• Support raceflight and betaflight firmware, default is BF.
  
• Use MPU6000 accelerometers and gyroscopes
  
• Gyro and MCU have 3.3V independent power supply
  
• Support LED strip and blackbox
  
• Has outputs for up to 6 motors (ESCs)
  
• Three available hardware UART ports
  
• Built in inverter for SBUS input
  
• STM32F405 32-bit processor at 168MHz, 1Mb flash, 192kb ram
  
• Micro USB connectivity using STM Virtual Communications Port
  
• M25P16 16 Mbit, serial Flash memory, 75 MHz SPI bus interface 
  
• 1x7pin JST-SH socket (SUBS,SERIAL,RX,TX,5V,GND)
  
• 6X3pin though-holes for pin headers for ESC
  
• No BEC
  
• Input voltage: 5 ~ 8.4V
  
• Firmware target: REVO / CC3D Revolution
  

Includes

• 1x F4 Advanced Flight Controller - (MPU6000, STM32F405)
  
• 1x 1x7 pin header straight
  
• 1x 3x6 pin header straight
  
• 1x 3x6 pin header right angle
  

(08-Dec-2023, 08:58 AM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: The white FC is an old Lumenier F4 "Advanced" FC which is based on a CC3D FC from around the 2015 era. Lumenier is GetFPV's own in-house FPV brand. You can find details on that FC at the link below...

https://www.getfpv.com/f4-advanced-fligh...2f405.html

This looks to be a great deal,,,not sure how my baby caddx is going to fit though. Might have to return it and get something else. So what do you guys think...good deal? And the guy doesnt know what type of frame the topless one is,,,anyone have a clue pf the model? Hopefully i can find a replacement piece.

You think 500mw is good for park flying and zipping through trees? All i have is turnigy rx's with this evolution pro..do you see any issues i might have? I'm about to pick these up in an hour and hoping that everything works,,seen him crank the big one up which in my eyes is worth the money im spending.

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(08-Dec-2023, 08:58 AM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: The white FC is an old Lumenier F4 "Advanced" FC which is based on a CC3D FC from around the 2015 era. Lumenier is GetFPV's own in-house FPV brand. You can find details on that FC at the link below...

https://www.getfpv.com/f4-advanced-fligh...2f405.html

This looks to be a great deal,,,not sure how my baby caddx is going to fit though. Might have to return it and get something else. So what do you guys think...good deal? And the guy doesnt know what type of frame the topless one is,,,anyone have a clue pf the model? Hopefully i can find a replacement piece.

You think 500mw is good for park flying and zipping through trees? All i have is turnigy rx's with this evolution pro..do you see any issues i might have? I'm about to pick these up in an hour and hoping that everything works,,seen him crank the big one up which in my eyes is worth the money im spending.

(08-Dec-2023, 07:05 PM)DethRattles Wrote: And the guy doesnt know what type of frame the topless one is,,,anyone have a clue pf the model? Hopefully i can find a replacement piece.

I have no idea but it is going to be on old style "H" frame from the same 2015 period as the FC in it which is about 3 years before I started in the hobby so I'm not familiar with most of the frames that were around during that era. Frames usually go out of production after a year or two so it's highly unlikely that you will be able to get a new top plate for that which means you will probably just have to write that frame off and move all the components to a different frame. You can of course try to design and 3D print a new top plate, but if you do it won't be very strong and will likely just break in the first crash.

Just be aware that all of those quads and the components in them are pretty archaic by today's standards, so just make sure you don't pay too much money for them all. I'm not sure I would pay the $100 asking price for all that stuff, but each to their own.

(08-Dec-2023, 07:05 PM)DethRattles Wrote: You think 500mw is good for park flying and zipping through trees? All i have is turnigy rx's with this evolution pro..do you see any issues i might have?

500mW should be more than enough VTX power for park flying unless it's a particularly big park. I've flown my 5" analogue quad out to over 600 metres from myself using 200mW of power. It is all going to depend on how noisy the environment is that you are flying in. Keep in mind that racing pilots fly on just 25mW of power.

The frame looks like a Banggood type frame.

working on the one with the luminier advanced fc and 4in1 esc and number 4 motor wont spin. I swapped out the #1 pin signal and number 4 but on the cable but still the same. #4 which im pointing at is fried..looking up what to test on it. I tried another motor before switching the wires on the cable to the flight controller. While i'm looking how should i test this and if i have to buy one then any idea what size this is in amps? The motors are Rebel 2205 3000kv. I'm just finished doing the hardware portion and now doing the research. You think i could get away with 20amp esc? i can get a good deal on them.

I got the one drone with the green props running. Its got a motolab flight controller that had betaflight 3.2 on it. The big folding xhover has open pilot or something else,,i forgot. I know nothing about that software compared to cleanflight or beta and probably going to upgrade the flight controller and sell that beast. Its flight controller is white and just says cc3d 1526(should i keep it on there and sell it or throw an f4 revo and sell it since i can get one for 14$. The entire thing has never been flown? just weird. He threw in 4 ldarc xt2306 kv2500 but found that was one burnt. The luminier has a mach2 vtx. Just don't know what route to take,,pdp, 4in 1, or individual esc's ,,i want to throw it into the other frame in the pictures which means longer wires. Green propped with a crazy forward angle has no vtx but runs. Now im in a weird place wondering what all i should do with all of these drones. sick of making sh8tty purchases and then having to buy more to get what i need. My end result will be a nice whoop and drone i can cut through the wind with for freestyle. I'm can get either a revo f4 single or with a pdb and 250mw vtx for 20(which i'd toss the vtx into the folding xhover and take its boss). The frame alone for that xhover is selling on getfpv for 99 bucks, its just too damn big. Heres the all in one with number 4 bad https://ibb.co/wQdwJ00

(10-Dec-2023, 04:29 AM)DethRattles Wrote: working on the one with the luminier advanced fc and 4in1 esc and number 4 motor wont spin. I swapped out the #1 pin signal and number 4 but on the cable but still the same. #4 which im pointing at is fried..looking up what to test on it. I tried another motor before switching the wires on the cable to the flight controller. While i'm looking how should i test this and if i have to buy one then any idea what size this is in amps? The motors are Rebel 2205 3000kv. I'm just finished doing the hardware portion and now doing the research. You think i could get away with 20amp esc? i can get a good deal on them.

You did all the usual tests so it does sound like a dead ESC. That is a very high KV motor for use with 3S or 4S LiPos. I can't find any data on those particular motors but I found some for equivalent Racerstar BR2205 3000KV motors which is shown below. On a 4S LiPo with 4" props it is showing a current draw of 26A at full thrust, or 19A at full thrust if using a 3S LiPo. If you put 5" props on it then the current draw will be even more. If you are planning on using 4S LiPos with 5" props I would recommend getting a 35A ESC at the very minimum.

these motors doesnt match 4s 5inch, they would require a motoroutputlimit.

i flew the 2600kv version back than, they did struggle to spin a 5inch rotor - they was alos advertised as 4inch motors.
they doesnt provide the power to spin up a 5inch blade in acceptable efficiency

very low pitch and lightweight 5inch blade probably?

So I'm looking for the right combination to run those motors, or I could swap out the green(full on race angle) ones electronics to the smaller frame. It has rg20 rotorgeeks esc's a motolab cyclone v1.1 fc running bf firmware 3.2.2 with rcx H2205 2350kv motors

The big beasty xhover has kde esc's(not sure which ones but says on the bottom 25v 6s opto,,cant read much cause of the frame in the way. and has kde 2306xf 2050kv 14p which seems overkill to the little frame i'd be swapping things into. I was thinking of keeping the xhover as is,,frame sells for 99 on getfpv. It's never been flown but that cc3d flight controller with libreflight? i just don't know about. The specs were above in a post. I'll never fly this green frame with its forward facing angle...its full on racemode.

Or i could just buy a 4in1 35amp esc or single esc's for 40$ and throw the one that's got the luminere and the Rebel motors. There's too many combinations of what to do...plus i want to make some money and sell off some of these(especially the xhover) and hope to buy better equipment since my only radio is a turnigy evolution pro. I did turn my dys x160/maytech mtf160 v3 into a whoop style with ducts(not really ducts more like rings) and get 5 min of flight in the house on a 3s 850mah) I can see clearly with it's camera but im flying backwards into walls...just can't seem to get fpv flight down in real life but fine in a sim.