I normally ask these types of questions over at [H]ardforum (no not a porn site!) but the geek level there is so high I end up with a slew of benchmark stats and non-answers.

I'm starting to edit more and more 4K video in its native resolution and my little Ryzen 5 1500X is no longer holding its 4GHz OC (base 3.5 lol) without BSOD'ing when I play graphic intensive games.  I am ok with having to ramp down my settings for gaming but editing 4K is an absolute pain since I can't sync effects properly because it doesn't render smoothly in preview.  I also have CUDA running (GTX 1070) which helps but not to the degree I need.  I am using Premiere Pro and After Effects.

I have been eyeing the Ryzen 7 3700X which I think is equivalent to the i7 which comes recommended for 4K editing.  Obviously the Ryzen 9 / i9 would be much better but I also have not won the lottery yet (which explains why I'm not even entertaining a GPU upgrade).

Here is the Ryzen 5 1500X vs Ryzen 7 3700X benchmark.  What do you guys think?  Worth the upgrade or just stick it out till I can afford the 9?

Again, I just want my Premier Pro to preview 4k footage smoothly so I can actually edit it.  The gaming stuff is just gravy.

Check This page out it shows the recommended spec's including CPU & GPU.
https://intofpv.com/t-worth-upgrading-ry...4k-editing

Thanks sircolin but I think you just linked to this post.

Well if anyone's stuck in the same position, I did pull the trigger on a used (I know, fingers crossed lol) Ryzen 7 3700X. While I'm pretty sure that will be a marked improvement for 4K editing over the 5 1500X I'm rocking now, I decided to double down and also get a M.2 1TB PCIe SSD which should add some improvement over the 500GB SSD I'm using now. $300 upgrade in all ... hope it's worth it lol.

... of course.  It turns out my ghetto budget Asus B350 based motherboard will likely bottleneck the 3700X.  Soooo ... MSI B550 "Gaming Plus" it is.  Man I forgot how this particular hobby is level 100 at sucking $$s out your wallet.  That's a +$175.  


[edit] hmmm my RAMs still only at 2400.

[edit2]  single 120mm rad AIO cooler too might wanna up that right?  

Isnt editing more GPU limited ?

The GPU helps but Adobe in particular (Premiere Pro, After Effects) are more CPU rather than GPU intensive.  I  have read other video editing programs make better use of the GPU.  The upside is that Adobe products can make use of Intel CUDA which cut down my 4K rendering at max quality from many hours to less than an hour. It's just the editing preview that brings my system down to its knees. I cannot see transitions well because it just will not render 4K fast enough. That's why my latest hi def videos had transitions that were off timing. Super annoying.

So with that said, my CAS (computer acquisition syndrome) has really hit full stride   ... we're going full-on with an MSI x570s motherboard lol.  My ghetto 2400 ram will be an obvious botteleneck so replacing my x8 8GB G.Skills with x2 16GB Corsair 3600's.  Since this is x570, I do plan to replace all my storage with 3x M.2 sticks making use of all the Gen4 PCIe goodness.  For now, I plan to hit the ground running with 1x 1TB M.2 along with a 500GB SSD for gaming and a 3TB standard HDD for general storage (not sure what to do with this extra 250GB SSD and 1TB HDD - maybe make small portable external storage).  I do plan to OC everything (sounds like there are these preset profiles now that make OC'ing less of a chore) but will be using a single Corsair H60 AIO water cooler with a 120mm rad.  I've read the 3700X runs relatively cool but I worry the "s" in X570 means the overall board will run hot.  I think I have room in the front of my Corsair Carbide 275R for a 240mm dual rad AIO but would prefer the less clutter of the single 120mm.  The only other part I'm keeping is the big one - my Gigabyte GTX 1070 OC.  I can't believe that GPU has actually *gone up* in price since I got it LOL crazy times (kitted with a fancy new RGB back plate from V1 Tech).


Gotta admit I do kinda miss this stuff.  

DO. NOT. ORDER. FROM. NEWEGG.

I cannot emphasize this enough.  I'm still having to deal with their bullshittery (involving me cussing out their "VP of Customer Service") so I'm a bit too hot to get into it right now.  Suffice to say, this is NOT the same Newegg from days past.  It is a shell of its former self run by the supremely incompetent and/or unethical.

But don't take my word for it.  And these are from just the past couple months.






For what it's worth, I got the *exact* same items for slightly cheaper with next day delivery from Amazon.

Holy crap that was an adventure  

In addition to the b*llsh*ttery I was subjected to by Newegg (Paypal quickly ruled in my favor), the 3700X I got used on eBay turned out to be bunk!!  I cannot tell you what an absolute monumental epic pain it is to troubleshoot a new build.  I was convinced it was either the brand new X570S MSI mobo or the super fancy 2x 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3600 RAM causing the issue.  The problem was I couldn't post and boot would get stuck on a DRAM error.  (MSI boards have 4 boot LEDs indicating where an error might take place:  CPU, DRAM, VGA, and BOOT.)  I must have poured through countless Reddit and forum posts on this evidently VERY common issue ... *all* of them with different resolutions ranging from wrong bios, corrupted bios, wrong ram settings, insufficient ram voltage, ram incompatibility, faulty CPU.  Tried different bios, manual RAM settings, different RAM sticks ... no dice. 

And just before I was about to head to Micro Center to replace the mobo which i was convinced was the culprit, I tried replacing the used 3700X with the 1500X it was meant to replace ... waddya know - it worked!!  Tried different ram ... still worked perfectly.  It was the CPU.  The only thing they had at Micro Center close to the 3700X was the 5700X so I went for that.  Installed it and ... everything worked perfectly.  Luckily, the eBay seller was uncharacteristically (for those of you that use eBay) very courteous and understanding.  I'd like to think my mini novel of an email accompanied by hi-res photos and even a video montage of my various tests helped.

So in the end, I got full refunds from the Newegg dumbassedness as well as my cheapskate decision to get a used CPU from eBay.    

And without further adieu ...

Original system:  Ryzen 5 1300X + Asus Prime B350 Plus + 4x 8GB G.Skill DDR4 2400 + GTX 1070 + Corsair H60 120mm AIO + various SSDs and HDDs for storage



Is now this ... Ryzen 7 5700X + MSI X570s Edge Max Wifi + 2x 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3600 + GTX 1070 + Corsair H100i 240mm AIO + 2x 1TB M.2 SSD Gen4 (with room for 1 more - all running Gen4 speed thanks to 570 chipset lol)

(12-Apr-2022, 01:24 AM)the.ronin Wrote: Holy crap that was an adventure  

In addition to the b*llsh*ttery I was subjected to by Newegg (Paypal quickly ruled in my favor), the 3700X I got used on eBay turned out to be bunk!!  I cannot tell you what an absolute monumental epic pain it is to troubleshoot a new build.  I was convinced it was either the brand new X570S MSI mobo or the super fancy 2x 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3600 RAM causing the issue.  The problem was I couldn't post and boot would get stuck on a DRAM error.  (MSI boards have 4 boot LEDs indicating where an error might take place:  CPU, DRAM, VGA, and BOOT.)  I must have poured through countless Reddit and forum posts on this evidently VERY common issue ... *all* of them with different resolutions ranging from wrong bios, corrupted bios, wrong ram settings, insufficient ram voltage, ram incompatibility, faulty CPU.  Tried different bios, manual RAM settings, different RAM sticks ... no dice. 

And just before I was about to head to Micro Center to replace the mobo which i was convinced was the culprit, I tried replacing the used 3700X with the 1500X it was meant to replace ... waddya know - it worked!!  Tried different ram ... still worked perfectly.  It was the CPU.  The only thing they had at Micro Center close to the 3700X was the 5700X so I went for that.  Installed it and ... everything worked perfectly.  Luckily, the eBay seller was uncharacteristically (for those of you that use eBay) very courteous and understanding.  I'd like to think my mini novel of an email accompanied by hi-res photos and even a video montage of my various tests helped.

So in the end, I got full refunds from the Newegg dumbassedness as well as my cheapskate decision to get a used CPU from eBay.    

And without further adieu ...

Original system:  Ryzen 5 1300X + Asus Prime B350 Plus + 4x 8GB G.Skill DDR4 2400 + GTX 1070 + Corsair H60 120mm AIO + various SSDs and HDDs for storage



Is now this ... Ryzen 7 5700X + MSI X570s Edge Max Wifi + 2x 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3600 + GTX 1070 + Corsair H100i 240mm AIO + 2x 1TB M.2 SSD Gen4 (with room for 1 more - all running Gen4 speed thanks to 570 chipset lol)

Nice little sytem you've got there!

I upgraded to the 5950x in Jan 2021 and haven't looked back, I do use premiere and after effects which mostly use the GPU renderer for me but being able to game while a video renders in the background is a game changer!

Sucks about the dead CPU, cpu's actually are very rare to die so that's really unfortunate.

(29-Mar-2022, 07:21 PM)sircolin Wrote: Check This page out it shows the recommended spec's including CPU & GPU.
https://intofpv.com/t-worth-upgrading-ry...4k-editing

Oh I sorry, I must have pasted the wrong link

In college we had this saying, "if you're walking on thin ice, ya might as well dance."    

Threw caution to the wind despite loud cheers of GPU prices settling back down to MSRP by this summer and went ahead upgrading the GTX 1070 to an RTX 3070 TI.    


And of course this new build would be remiss without a new case to off the RGB blings.    



I got Metro Exodus remastered edition and played it with graphics maxed out lol.  The graphics were sick but tbh what got me was how Corsair iCue syncs with the game!!!  I was getting mauled by zombies bleeding all over the place and my whole setup was pulsating red LOLL

My build with a GTX1070 is from 2018. The Corsair H100 has been the only part of theirs that let me down I think a little after 1 year it crapped out. Would make it about a minute into windows boot before everything would slow to a crawl. Threw a giant HSF on there from the prior build to get it going again.

I had stopped ordering from Newegg when they were no longer the only seller. There was a time there for 20 years, even going back to when they were only CA warehouse and had long ground shipping times to east coast. But that was back when Amazon was still mostly books and otherwise you'd be browsing Pricewatch for pc parts.