Posts: 1 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Dec 2019 Reputation: 0 19-Dec-2019, 10:38 AM (This post was last modified: 19-Dec-2019, 10:38 AM by yamax87.) I'm flying a brand new TH S on tattu 2s 450mah batts. Gentle hovering around; nothing aggressive. Indoor flying (as a test run) in my lounge.
Profile 2 pids (P value 80).
Xt30 connector.
After 4 minutes, the batt was drained and the motor bells were almost too hot to touch. 1s 450 and stock 2s 300 both fly fine.
Bit confused...is this normal? I thought 2s 450 was what most people use, but I'm terrified of wrecking the motors. Is there anything else I can change? Thanks. ![[-]](https://intofpv.com/images/collapse.png) • Posts: 12,098 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 The added weight could be causing the heat, especially if you are not getting the same heat from the smaller packs. Usually too much D term cause hot motors or not enough PID filtering. • Posts: 189 Threads: 19 Likes Received: 20 in 12 posts Likes Given: 26 Joined: May 2019 Reputation: 1 24-Dec-2019, 04:27 PM (This post was last modified: 24-Dec-2019, 04:46 PM by Corrado-c.) it happens to me the same, even with the 2s 300mah supplied
I had stopped using 2s also because with the PID project mokingbird even with 1s is fantastic.
later I installed BF 4.1 and RPM filters and the autonomy has increased up to 5 minutes.
today I read your post I went to try the 2s again. cold engines and barely warm battery. • Posts: 9 Threads: 0 Likes Received: 1 in 1 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: May 2020 Reputation: 0 Corrado-c I would be grateful if you tell me what kind of setup you use ine BF. I've installed Jesc 48, update BF to 4.1 but I'm struggling with BF setup.. can I use standard THS pid profiles, just change some details for jesc? • Posts: 189 Threads: 19 Likes Received: 20 in 12 posts Likes Given: 26 Joined: May 2019 Reputation: 1 (04-May-2020, 04:43 PM)Marcin636 Wrote: Corrado-c I would be grateful if you tell me what kind of setup you use ine BF. I've installed Jesc 48, update BF to 4.1 but I'm struggling with BF setup.. can I use standard THS pid profiles, just change some details for jesc? Hi!! Lately I was using esc JazzMaverick firmware for rpm filter! it works great, now I'm using BF4.2 and luckily I have some old saved settings. I am attaching the "diff all", which I had saved some time ago with BF4.1, see if you can catch something, most is the mockingbird project Code: #
# diff all
# version
# Betaflight / STM32F411 (S411) 4.1.1 Nov 15 2019 / 12:55:17 (1e5e3d369) MSP API: 1.42
# manufacturer_id: MTKS board_name: MATEKF411RX custom defaults: YES
# start the command batch
batch start
# reset configuration to default settings
defaults nosave
board_name MATEKF411RX
manufacturer_id MTKS
mcu_id 005d00623437510435313736
signature
# resources
resource RX_BIND 1 B02
# beacon
beacon RX_SET
# serial
serial 0 64 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 1 2048 115200 57600 0 115200
# mode_color
mode_color 5 0 9
mode_color 5 1 11
mode_color 5 2 2
mode_color 5 3 13
mode_color 5 4 10
mode_color 5 5 3
# aux
aux 0 0 2 1775 2100 0 0
aux 1 1 0 1700 2100 0 0
aux 2 30 1 1800 2100 0 0
aux 3 35 3 900 1300 0 0
aux 4 47 0 1300 1700 0 0
# adjrange
adjrange 0 0 0 900 2100 12 0 0 0
adjrange 1 0 3 1400 2100 29 3 0 0
# vtxtable
vtxtable bands 5
vtxtable channels 8
vtxtable band 1 BOSCAM_A A FACTORY 5865 5845 5825 5805 5785 5765 5745 5725
vtxtable band 2 BOSCAM_B B FACTORY 5733 5752 5771 5790 5809 5828 5847 5866
vtxtable band 3 BOSCAM_E E FACTORY 5705 5685 5665 0 5885 5905 0 0
vtxtable band 4 FATSHARK F FACTORY 5740 5760 5780 5800 5820 5840 5860 5880
vtxtable band 5 RACEBAND R FACTORY 5658 5695 5732 5769 5806 5843 5880 5917
vtxtable powerlevels 1
vtxtable powervalues 14
vtxtable powerlabels 25
# master
set gyro_sync_denom = 2
set gyro_lowpass2_hz = 500
set dyn_notch_range = AUTO
set dyn_notch_width_percent = 0
set dyn_notch_q = 250
set dyn_notch_min_hz = 100
set dyn_lpf_gyro_min_hz = 400
set dyn_lpf_gyro_max_hz = 1000
set acc_calibration = -4,14,-20
set mag_hardware = NONE
set baro_hardware = NONE
set min_check = 1007
set max_check = 2000
set fpv_mix_degrees = 20
set airmode_start_throttle_percent = 55
set rx_spi_protocol = FRSKY_D
set dshot_idle_value = 600
set dshot_burst = OFF
set dshot_bidir = ON
set motor_pwm_protocol = DSHOT600
set motor_poles = 12
set bat_capacity = 450
set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 450
set vbat_min_cell_voltage = 290
set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 300
set current_meter = NONE
set crashflip_motor_percent = 75
set small_angle = 180
set deadband = 3
set yaw_deadband = 2
set pid_process_denom = 1
set runaway_takeoff_prevention = OFF
set osd_warn_no_gps_rescue = OFF
set osd_warn_gps_rescue_disabled = OFF
set osd_vbat_pos = 355
set osd_rssi_pos = 34
set osd_tim_2_pos = 14368
set osd_flymode_pos = 6201
set osd_anti_gravity_pos = 6381
set osd_vtx_channel_pos = 355
set osd_craft_name_pos = 362
set osd_avg_cell_voltage_pos = 14392
set osd_disarmed_pos = 14634
set osd_esc_tmp_pos = 368
set osd_esc_rpm_pos = 6242
set osd_esc_rpm_freq_pos = 128
set osd_core_temp_pos = 6505
set osd_stat_max_spd = OFF
set osd_stat_battery = ON
set osd_stat_min_rssi = OFF
set osd_stat_max_curr = OFF
set osd_stat_used_mah = OFF
set osd_stat_bb_no = OFF
set osd_stat_max_g_force = ON
set osd_stat_max_fft = ON
set osd_profile = 3
set debug_mode = GYRO_SCALED
set scheduler_optimize_rate = ON
set vtx_band = 5
set vtx_channel = 1
set vtx_power = 1
set vtx_freq = 5658
set vcd_video_system = NTSC
set displayport_max7456_wht = 3
set frsky_spi_tx_id = 207,41
set frsky_spi_offset = -22
set frsky_spi_bind_hop_data = 0,30,60,91,120,150,180,210,5,35,65,95,125,155,185,215,10,40,70,100,130,160,190,221,15,45,75,105,135,165,195,225,20,50,80,110,140,170,200,230,25,55,85,115,145,175,205,0,0,0
set gyro_1_align_yaw = 1800
set gyro_rpm_notch_harmonics = 2
profile 0
# profile 0
set dyn_lpf_dterm_min_hz = 133
set dyn_lpf_dterm_max_hz = 323
set dterm_lowpass_hz = 100
set dterm_lowpass2_hz = 285
set vbat_pid_gain = ON
set feedforward_transition = 30
set iterm_relax_type = GYRO
set throttle_boost = 4
set acro_trainer_angle_limit = 40
set p_pitch = 85
set i_pitch = 30
set d_pitch = 75
set f_pitch = 45
set p_roll = 85
set i_roll = 30
set d_roll = 75
set f_roll = 45
set p_yaw = 95
set i_yaw = 30
set f_yaw = 45
set angle_level_strength = 110
set horizon_level_strength = 30
set horizon_transition = 80
set level_limit = 70
set horizon_tilt_effect = 80
set horizon_tilt_expert_mode = ON
set abs_control_gain = 20
set d_min_roll = 0
set d_min_pitch = 0
set d_min_boost_gain = 0
set d_min_advance = 80
profile 1
# profile 1
set dyn_lpf_dterm_min_hz = 133
set dyn_lpf_dterm_max_hz = 323
set dterm_lowpass_hz = 100
set dterm_lowpass2_hz = 285
set vbat_pid_gain = ON
set feedforward_transition = 30
set iterm_relax_type = GYRO
set throttle_boost = 3
set p_pitch = 45
set i_pitch = 25
set f_pitch = 25
set p_roll = 45
set i_roll = 25
set d_roll = 38
set f_roll = 25
set p_yaw = 45
set i_yaw = 25
set f_yaw = 25
set angle_level_strength = 100
set horizon_level_strength = 30
set horizon_transition = 80
set level_limit = 75
set abs_control_gain = 20
set d_min_roll = 0
set d_min_pitch = 0
set d_min_boost_gain = 20
set d_min_advance = 100
profile 2
# profile 2
set dyn_lpf_dterm_min_hz = 0
set dyn_lpf_dterm_max_hz = 340
set dterm_lowpass_hz = 100
set dterm_lowpass2_hz = 200
set vbat_pid_gain = ON
set feedforward_transition = 25
set iterm_relax_type = GYRO
set acro_trainer_angle_limit = 30
set p_pitch = 45
set i_pitch = 25
set d_pitch = 50
set f_pitch = 25
set p_roll = 45
set i_roll = 25
set d_roll = 50
set f_roll = 25
set p_yaw = 45
set i_yaw = 25
set f_yaw = 25
set angle_level_strength = 100
set horizon_level_strength = 30
set horizon_transition = 80
set level_limit = 75
set abs_control_gain = 20
set d_min_roll = 40
set d_min_pitch = 40
set d_min_boost_gain = 30
set d_min_advance = 0
# restore original profile selection
profile 1
rateprofile 0
# rateprofile 0
set yaw_rc_rate = 210
set roll_expo = 20
set pitch_expo = 20
set yaw_expo = 30
set roll_srate = 80
set pitch_srate = 80
set yaw_srate = 25
set tpa_rate = 30
rateprofile 1
# rateprofile 1
set yaw_rc_rate = 210
set roll_srate = 80
set pitch_srate = 80
set yaw_srate = 25
set tpa_rate = 0
set tpa_breakpoint = 2000
rateprofile 2
# rateprofile 2
set yaw_rc_rate = 215
set roll_srate = 0
set pitch_srate = 0
set yaw_srate = 10
set tpa_rate = 0
set tpa_breakpoint = 2000
rateprofile 3
rateprofile 4
rateprofile 5
# restore original rateprofile selection
rateprofile 0
# save configuration
save
#
Posts: 189 Threads: 19 Likes Received: 20 in 12 posts Likes Given: 26 Joined: May 2019 Reputation: 1 profile 1 for 1S profile 2 for 2S,
the rate are for acro, angle and acro los if I remember correctly....
but I don't remember which ones, try if you can like it • Posts: 9 Threads: 0 Likes Received: 1 in 1 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: May 2020 Reputation: 0 Thank you soo much, its flying great! Sorry for beginner mistakes, that is my firs fpv drone and I'm so excited! • Posts: 189 Threads: 19 Likes Received: 20 in 12 posts Likes Given: 26 Joined: May 2019 Reputation: 1 04-May-2020, 07:28 PM (This post was last modified: 04-May-2020, 07:29 PM by Corrado-c.) for vtx depends, have you configured the port of vtx? (peripherals: VTX TBS smart audio in UART 2) and then in the part of "video transmitter" you have to load the VTX TABLE, download TBS SmartAudio Protocol (smartaudio 2.0) from here: https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight...VTX-tables EU or US versione. Although I think something should be seen even without these configurations ... then you have to check the cables ... • Posts: 189 Threads: 19 Likes Received: 20 in 12 posts Likes Given: 26 Joined: May 2019 Reputation: 1 oops, did I see wrong or did you have a problem with the vtx a few minutes ago?  • Posts: 9 Threads: 0 Likes Received: 1 in 1 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: May 2020 Reputation: 0 You right, I had a problem, figure out in bf the band was Race one, i compare default setting, change to boscam-a and is run perfect ? first fly on emax 450hv 5.15 boom. There is a higher angle for angle mod but still very stable when hovering around • Posts: 189 Threads: 19 Likes Received: 20 in 12 posts Likes Given: 26 Joined: May 2019 Reputation: 1 (04-May-2020, 07:58 PM)Marcin636 Wrote: You right, I had a problem, figure out in bf the band was Race one, i compare default setting, change to boscam-a and is run perfect ? first fly on emax 450hv 5.15 boom. There is a higher angle for angle mod but still very stable when hovering around I mainly use ACRO mode, in Angle I can't tell you. I'm glad you feel good there   • Posts: 9 Threads: 0 Likes Received: 1 in 1 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: May 2020 Reputation: 0 I'm grateful for it, it's fly amazing little bit crazy for beginner like me. Have you got the stock dump file for THs (I lost mine) , I know that I can download from Emax page but I read that couple people had some problem with it, so I'm looking for something out from quad • Posts: 190 Threads: 35 Likes Received: 39 in 30 posts Likes Given: 88 Joined: Oct 2020 Reputation: 2 I've had a TH2 for a while now running on the stock BF4.1 tune and never had hot motors. I've just resurrected the quad and decided to flash with BF4.2.6 and Jazz Mav ESC firmware so I could enable bidirectional dhot300 and all of a sudden hot motors. I simply added DMIN @ 60 and bingo this sorted it right away. Hope this helps others. My Facebook Page | My Youtube Channel iFlight Green Hornet 1 | Emax Tinyhawk Freestyle 2 | Emax Tinyhawk 2 ISDT 608 & Balance Board | Eachine EV800D | Taranis Qx7 | TBS Crossfire Mini v2 • |
