Posts: 302 Threads: 46 Likes Received: 152 in 88 posts Likes Given: 61 Joined: Oct 2018 Reputation: 11 Hi Kaity I had the exact opposite of that, instead of too much throttle my wing would not spin the motor until my throttle reached about 25-30% I re-calibrated the the esc and all is good. A quik way to calibrate the esc to the throttle: no need for soldering or connecting to INAV etc. If this is not the problem it will not mess anything up take prop off keep ESC power OFF for now 1 Turn radio on, raise throttle to full 100% (if you have a motor kill switch it needs to be on) verify on your radio screen that your throttle is full on. during this next step the motor will(should) not spin (i just ran through this process on my wing to verify that my ESC did not spin with the arming switch on) 2. power up the esc, you will hear it tone, usually high/ low tones for a second or two 3. after the tones stop, bring you throttle to 0% 4 you will hear more tones... when they stop your're done turn off ESC and radio and see if it helped Posts: 3,288 Threads: 129 Likes Received: 2,740 in 1,644 posts Likes Given: 2,969 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 65 They moved everything around since INAV 1.9! LOL, able to tune the radio to get the throttle working the way I want it to work. Now have a happy range. Have not played with those radio settings since last year as I never mess with default throttle settings when setting up a quad. Thank you Roger! Did the calibration anyway as I figured it is not hurting anything. It seems like it is ready to try again, but have to wait until the rains clear out here. They started last night and the cold crept in as well. Have a nice warm fire to relax in front of while I stress out about silly settings Not really happy about the way I routed the camera wiring so will likely lengthen them and run them along the edge of the controls bay. I am also setting up a few nose weights (taped nickels) for the various packs I have available for this craft. Have some 2200 3S packs and some 1500 4S as well. Have a new R9MM on the way as well. Did not want to strip one off a quad and I am out of spares. SoCal Kaity :D OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun! Addicted :) • Posts: 302 Threads: 46 Likes Received: 152 in 88 posts Likes Given: 61 Joined: Oct 2018 Reputation: 11 (22-Feb-2020, 09:01 PM)kaitylynn Wrote: They moved everything around since INAV 1.9! LOL, able to tune the radio to get the throttle working the way I want it to work. Now have a happy range. Have not played with those radio settings since last year as I never mess with default throttle settings when setting up a quad. Thank you Roger! Did the calibration anyway as I figured it is not hurting anything. It seems like it is ready to try again, but have to wait until the rains clear out here. They started last night and the cold crept in as well. Have a nice warm fire to relax in front of while I stress out about silly settings ![Smile Smile](https://intofpv.com/images/smilies/smile.png) Not really happy about the way I routed the camera wiring so will likely lengthen them and run them along the edge of the controls bay. I am also setting up a few nose weights (taped nickels) for the various packs I have available for this craft. Have some 2200 3S packs and some 1500 4S as well. Have a new R9MM on the way as well. Did not want to strip one off a quad and I am out of spares. Sounds like you are well on your way. At first i thought I was going to do throttle curve to fix my problem but the ESC calibration worked, so that was an easy fix for me. Yea, the compartment is a bit tight on that wing. In the end I ran my wiring along the edge of the bay also. Of the many planes I have built, the S800 seems to be the most sensitive one when trying to get the CG set, which from a physics standpoint that makes sense because the length of the wing compared to that of a traditional plane is so much shorter. Happy Flying Posts: 3,288 Threads: 129 Likes Received: 2,740 in 1,644 posts Likes Given: 2,969 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 65 Moved things into the wing pockets. Ready to go! SoCal Kaity :D OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun! Addicted :) Posts: 3,288 Threads: 129 Likes Received: 2,740 in 1,644 posts Likes Given: 2,969 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 65 Time to finish parts selecting. Ordered a fresh Mach3 and an R9MM. Wiring is run, went with 24awg out to the VTX bay and 26awg to the RX bay (what I had on hand in correct lengths. Have the CG balanced on the "dot" with an ever so slight nose bias...the 3S-2200mah pack fits fine and 104g of nose weighting was needed for ballast. Will be flying 4S-2200mah packs and will have to work it all out again, but it is not that time consuming. Rained all the way through this morning's sunrise, so decided to skip testing. This leaves next weekend, but I will not have our car as it is needed for a project. Might end of flying this thing in the Sierras as its maiden! SoCal Kaity :D OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun! Addicted :) Posts: 3,288 Threads: 129 Likes Received: 2,740 in 1,644 posts Likes Given: 2,969 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 65 It is able to "hover" at about 60% throttle, nose up pushing against my hand. At 100% throttle, I would venture that it would pretty much leap into the air...followed by a crash with my skills Have the new VTX and RX on their way, shipped this afternoon. I was thinking about powering the FPV camera from the VTX while powering the VTX from its own 3S-650mah pack. This will cut out anything that could potentially cause noise from the power source and if I am going to have to include ballast anyway, why not have it do something useful? Granted, I would not have Smart Audio, but that is a lower priority than having Telemetry and is not part of this spec. Might be learning to fly this in Owen Valley in a few weeks. Have my hopes and dreams SoCal Kaity :D OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun! Addicted :) Posts: 302 Threads: 46 Likes Received: 152 in 88 posts Likes Given: 61 Joined: Oct 2018 Reputation: 11 25-Feb-2020, 04:20 AM (This post was last modified: 25-Feb-2020, 04:22 AM by roger74.) Glad to hear things are coming together for you and the plans for Owen Valley. I'm sure you will benefit greatly by having the extra help/advice. That's a good way to solve two problems using the battery as ballast ![Wink Wink](https://intofpv.com/images/smilies/wink.png) Here the problem is always waiting on good weather. I had really bad noise in my FPV from servo movement (so bad that FPV was not possible). After trying a store bought LC filter, re-routing wires etc, i decided to rewire/re-route my camera and VTX. What I did was remove them (camera/vtx) from the board and power them from the balance lead on the main battery which took away most of the noise and then I installed a homemade LC filter which gave me a clear image. I am using a camera with built in OSD. All this was done before switching to the Matek F405 so I will need to work all that out when the weather gets warm enough to fly. I am looking forward to getting everything up and running. My wing has FPV but I plan to fly LOS when I am at the club flying field (only one other person does FPV and then only occassionally). I will bring along my ground station to get them accustomed to FPV and then I might be able to get a 'willing' spotter for me. Posts: 3,288 Threads: 129 Likes Received: 2,740 in 1,644 posts Likes Given: 2,969 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 65 Have the R9MM and Mach3. Will be soldering both in and then The Wing will have telemetry and plenty of video power. At that point, it is just up to flying! Really looking forward to it. Was headed to the field for testing this Sunday, but there is rain in the forecast. Might still go, only a 20% chance as of this morning. SoCal Kaity :D OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun! Addicted :) Posts: 3,288 Threads: 129 Likes Received: 2,740 in 1,644 posts Likes Given: 2,969 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 65 29-Feb-2020, 10:31 PM (This post was last modified: 29-Feb-2020, 10:56 PM by kaitylynn.) SoCal Kaity :D OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun! Addicted :) Posts: 2,410 Threads: 136 Likes Received: 1,790 in 1,052 posts Likes Given: 3,302 Joined: Jan 2017 Reputation: 50 05-Mar-2020, 03:53 AM (This post was last modified: 05-Mar-2020, 03:55 AM by Drone0fPrey.) I really know almost nothing about wings (my time is coming) but have you calibrated the ESC? Not sure what ESC you are using but most I come across for fixed wings aren’t digital. Just a thought. Nvm lmao ? i missed the whole last page of replies Posts: 3,288 Threads: 129 Likes Received: 2,740 in 1,644 posts Likes Given: 2,969 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 65 A whole weekend of rain??? So am having a strange (and now familiar) issue with digital servos when a 900mhz RX is connected. They pulse...the ailerons pulse and flutter, but only when combining a 900mhz RX and the digital servos I have (unbranded MG90S). This build is based around the Matek F411-Wing FC. If I swap in analog servos, issue goes away. Digital Servos/2.4ghz RX, no problem. Working combinations: Digital/2.4ghz RX Analog/900mhz or 2.4ghz RX Thought maybe it was caused by telemetry signal, but even after disabling telemetry the Digital/900 combo flutters. Also, with my R-XSR providing telemetry, there is no issue. Does not seem to matter which 900mhz RX I use, the issue is present. I have several R9MM's that I have tried as well as finally soldering in the Slim+. Anyway, it is really not too big a deal. I know I can expect a few kilometers range from my XM+ RX's, and likely 1.5km or so from my R-XSR. Ordered some Emax 9gr digital servos, as well as a few metal geared analogs for testing. My expensive first flight with the plastic geared servos caused me to swear them off...............FOREVER! SoCal Kaity :D OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun! Addicted :) • Posts: 21,397 Threads: 593 Likes Received: 9,029 in 6,683 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 795 I think different servos will probably cure this issue, however out of interest did you try binding in EU / 868MHz mode instead of FCC / 915MHz. I know you don't want to use 868MHz but it would be interesting to see if a slightly lower frequency makes any difference at all (or makes the problem go away completely). Posts: 3,288 Threads: 129 Likes Received: 2,740 in 1,644 posts Likes Given: 2,969 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 65 I was actually thinking that this was maybe the issue...like a trace on the FC that is acting like an antenna? I will try it, Snow! SoCal Kaity :D OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun! Addicted :) • Posts: 2,410 Threads: 136 Likes Received: 1,790 in 1,052 posts Likes Given: 3,302 Joined: Jan 2017 Reputation: 50 14-Mar-2020, 06:13 PM (This post was last modified: 14-Mar-2020, 06:14 PM by Drone0fPrey.) We see similar issues in ground RC when upgrading to digital servos. Been a while but I do believe it’s due to noise as we use a capacitor to smooth it out. In my setup I simply connect the cap with a servo plug and plug it into an open channel on the receiver. I am not sure how this would all translate into wings as I haven’t even scratched the surface yet. Something to think about maybe I don’t know lol Posts: 3,288 Threads: 129 Likes Received: 2,740 in 1,644 posts Likes Given: 2,969 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 65 14-Mar-2020, 07:01 PM (This post was last modified: 14-Mar-2020, 09:47 PM by kaitylynn.) Hey Snow, tried shifting to LBT but no improvement. It is only happening when the TX and RX are connected. The radio can be on and a different model selected, no issue. DOP, added a cap but it made no difference. I have metal geared analog servos ordered through RDQ (they have a "wing" section now! The Emax digitals are ordered through Banggood, so might not see them for several centuries. Is ok, I do not need the speed of digital so not a high priority to have digital...relaxed flight is the entire goal with this project. SoCal Kaity :D OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun! Addicted :) |