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Suggestion for an analogue FPV setup.
#1
Hi dears,

Actually i'm an happy owner of DJI FPV goggles V1 but i'm considering buying something analogue.

First of all i would like to understand which goggles fit my needs. 
I noticed the new Cobra X seems to have a quality level comparable to top tier non-box goggle. They would be good for me also considering that my IPD is 70mm and, on many non-box goggles, even on DJI V1, i can barely focus the left and right sides of the screen. Now... which are the differences that justify the difference of price between Cobra X (Today 200 EUR on BG) with, for example, SKY04 (Today 470 EUR on BG) considering that they mount the same VRX? Which are the disadvantages a box style goggles? 

I discarded the idea of an analogue adapter for DJI for many reasons:
- I cannot mount the digidapter because i'm using iflight crystal antennas.
- Increased latency...
- ...but on top of them all, price! Adapter + VRX, even considering a Rapidmix would be around 100/110 EUR... 140/150 with a TBS fusion or Rapidfire. With 200 EUR (180 with coupon) I can buy a Cobra X with Rapidmix integrated and tomorrow, if for any reasons i would need to do so,  i can purchase a cheap side-adapter on BG (20 EUR) and mount the rapidmix on my DJI v1.

Regarding the antennas... is it a good idea to start with a Lollipop V3 RHCP and a ECHO Patch RHCP ? Any other suggestion, maybe a bit more mid/long range oriented ?

Thank you all!
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#2
You have posted a difficult question here even for some like myself who is still on analog and never looked through digital goggles.

From what I have seen on yt and forums is that the newer firmwares have fixed the lag issues for analog/AV-in.

Also many people have become used to the side mounted analog adapter and module combo. Much better than carrying 2 sets of goggles.

Since everyone is going digital, there are several people selling analog modules. Perhaps you can wait for a good bargain. Recently in my local gumtree someone was selling a TBS Fusion for half price.
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#3
Yes, probably you are right, an analogue adapter would be the easiest way...

I was also considering URUAV V.3 adapter with metal case (25 EUR) + True-D 4.0 (which is great in my opinion, even compared with RF or fusion, about 50 EUR) and patch + omni antenna (foxeer or lumenier 30/40 EUR in total)... with 100/110 EUR I should be able to buy everything i need.

What do you think ? 

Help me also with the antennas please, i'm a digital guy... no idea at all on this topic!  Big Grin
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#4
Antennas are very subjective.

For an omni, I recommend getting one with a taller stalk so it clears your head.

I have a handful of antennas:
- ImmersionRC SpiroNet V2 (Omni + Patch bundle)
- MenaceRC Viper (linear patch for quads with a linear whip antenna or whoops)
- TrueRC X2-air (for long range)
- Lumenier double axii 2 (tall omni when flying all around me)

Perhaps a MenaceRC bundle might be value for money since several shops in Europe carry them.

Foxeer lollipops are good too and most people prefer flying them as a pair at right angles.
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#5
   
DJI Goggles with iFlight Crystal patch and TBS Fusion on URUAV Analog Adapter. The adapter is only ~$13 (plus optional cover). Works great! I didn't get the analog adapter until after the last goggles firmware update, but I don't perceive any lag. I'm not a racer though.
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#6
One thing to keep in mind when using the DJI FPV Goggles with an analogue module is to make sure you set your cameras to output in NTSC. If you use PAL then you risk the goggles rebooting to a black screen if the signal gets weak rather then it turning to snow as it does with NTSC cameras. If you get a black screen reboot then your quad is going down unless you have GPS Rescue configured that you can trigger from a switch.
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#7
I have both DJI goggles and I got some CobraX goggles.
If you wear glasses I can strongly recommend CobraX goggles.
I have had no rolling screens except once when battery got low in goggles.
I don’t see any complaints about rolling screens except on 040 goggles.
I figured I’d have to get a different receiver but I haven’t had any problems at all.

Antennas I use are VAS Ethix Mushroom v2 and Crosshair extreme patch on receiver and a few different omnidirectional on quads.
Iflite micro on phantom,foxxeer lollipop and TrueRc LR on 5”.

I just couldn’t get past going from LOS to goggles and so not to lose a digital quad I got analog setup.
Then I lowered camera tilt and once I got a few successful flights I started using DJI.
Very noticeable difference but I’d still fly analog.
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#8
Cobra X is a good choice man. For your needs, it has everything you need. I won't regret it.
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#9
Guys,

You convinced me it may be the right choice but I would like to understand one more thing...

I watched a huge amount of reviews and comparisons but I cannot understand one simple thing. Apart from the need of more room for corrective glasses or for people with large IPD, why should I choose slim goggles like Sky04X instead of box goggles like the Cobra X ? I mean, if they are priced 3 times more, which are the real advantages ?
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#10
(10-Apr-2021, 08:36 AM)Zanna83 Wrote: I watched a huge amount of reviews and comparisons but I cannot understand one simple thing. Apart from the need of more room for corrective glasses or for people with large IPD, why should I choose slim goggles like Sky04X instead of box goggles like the Cobra X ? I mean, if they are priced 3 times more, which are the real advantages ?

I don't think there is any advantage of box goggles over slim goggles. It's all down each individual use case and personal preference.

Slim goggles are more expensive because they have to design and manufacture a complex optics module containing two screens (which are expensive) which has adjustable IPD and maybe also focal adjustment too, and squeeze all of that tech into a small housing, plus slim goggles are more convenient and compact to transport, especially if you are limited what gear you can fit in a backpack. So you pay a premium for all of that. Box goggles usually contain a single big screen (cheaper) with a less complex optics module, and there is a lot of room to fit in all of the electronics so they don't need to spend time trying to optimise and shrink down all the control boards and other components. Some people just don't like box goggles because they consider them to be too big and bulky to lug around.
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