(17-Apr-2023, 11:32 AM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: You can experience some odd things happening when that button cell RTC battery starts to run out, so I recommend that you replace it ASAP.

I replaced the battery and SDCARD. 
Battery warning got cleared.
SDCARD Error as well gone.
I copied the old SDCARD content as it is new to card, however I got a warning when turn on the radio saying "Failsafe Not set"
To fix that, I went to second page of the model, and set Failsafe to "No Pulses" and failsafe warning got cleared. Is that correct thing to do?

(17-Apr-2023, 06:28 PM)sim_tcr Wrote: I got a warning when turn on the radio saying "Failsafe Not set"
To fix that, I went to second page of the model, and set Failsafe to "No Pulses" and failsafe warning got cleared. Is that correct thing to do?

Yes, that is correct.

(17-Apr-2023, 06:07 PM)Pathfinder075 Wrote: Yes.  12A 2-4S.  I kind of like it as a FC.  Also being able to run up to 4S is a boon.  It is a diversity receiver (AFAIK), but i'm running D8 on it.  Don't know that running D16 would make any difference and a bunch of people told me not use D16 when I first got into this so i never bothered.  It will get ELRS with a dipole eventually (when I stop being lazy and just solder the damned receiver), but for now while it flies, I can't be bothered.  It's not really a quad I send out far, probably 100m max in general.  It's more freestyle than long range or cine.  But I have also seen the Cine8 videos that show maybe quarter of a mile range on it.

I originally got it for a Whoop . . . of course . . . but the board is not the same as the "regular" Whoop AIOs. Those closed mounting holes will not fit in the 75, 85 or 95 Whoop frames without butchering the dog snot outta them, and it also comes from HM with it set up backasswards upside down for their CineSlug 85. I did a BF reset on it after I set it up, and going through and checking stuff getting it ready, found the motors were all off from what they should be, and remembered they turned the board upside down on that thing and put the battery on top too. Royal pita with the wires as screwey as they have them . . . and flippin long . . . I don't think I'll be using any more of those, but did just get the new 1-2S 12amp PnP, and that looks like a keeper. Not a whole lotta need for a 12amp 1-2S board, but I don't see having too many amps available as a bad thing . . . 

SnowLeopard . . . thanks, that answered my question I was thinking. I never had an official Frsky radio. but thought from what was described, that batt was like the little coin on the motherboard. Really doesn't do much . . . until it bites, which is really rare, even for pretty old puters, but sure can cause all kinds of really screwey problems if it does . . .

(18-Apr-2023, 07:13 AM)Brian_OH Wrote: I originally got it for a Whoop . . . of course . . . but the board is not the same as the "regular" Whoop AIOs. Those closed mounting holes will not fit in the 75, 85 or 95 Whoop frames without butchering the dog snot outta them, and it also comes from HM with it set up backasswards upside down for their CineSlug 85. I did a BF reset on it after I set it up, and going through and checking stuff getting it ready, found the motors were all off from what they should be, and remembered they turned the board upside down on that thing and put the battery on top too. Royal pita with the wires as screwey as they have them . . . and flippin long . . . I don't think I'll be using any more of those, but did just get the new 1-2S 12amp PnP, and that looks like a keeper. Not a whole lotta need for a 12amp 1-2S board, but I don't see having too many amps available as a bad thing . . .

I would love more of these FC's.  They are perfect for the sort of builds I'm currently doing and would allow me to explore small 4S quads.  Still I am just as happy to buy more Cine8 kits, throw away the TPU crap that comes with them and mount them on to Twig/Twiglet Frames.  I haven't had any real issues so far with the one I have.

I also want more 1-2S FC's for hybrid 1-2S quads.  Like 1.6-2" running smaller motors, like 1002 or 1103.  I only have one spare 1-2S 12A and that is set to be used on a 1002 build.

But I agree at the long wires being annoying, especially the buzzer.  But it saves me having to solder, so i can live with it.

(18-Apr-2023, 12:16 PM)Pathfinder075 Wrote: I would love more of these FC's.  They are perfect for the sort of builds I'm currently doing and would allow me to explore small 4S quads.  Still I am just as happy to buy more Cine8 kits, throw away the TPU crap that comes with them and mount them on to Twig/Twiglet Frames.  I haven't had any real issues so far with the one I have.

I also want more 1-2S FC's for hybrid 1-2S quads.  Like 1.6-2" running smaller motors, like 1002 or 1103.  I only have one spare 1-2S 12A and that is set to be used on a 1002 build.

But I agree at the long wires being annoying, especially the buzzer.  But it saves me having to solder, so i can live with it.

Haha, the first thing I thought with that Sinny Whoop too when I saw it was keep the guts & dump the Whoop. When it first came out, it was cheaper to buy the Whoop than to buy the motors, board & the rest, but thought it came with one of the pos Nano or EOs cams ?? I'd also been looking at the Twig frames, but the large economy size, the 140mms. That's the closest I've seen to the size I think I need (140 - 142mm) for 3" ducts for a little bigger Super Whoop. That's what I had in mind to talk to Lukeman about with his custom frames, then I'll know the ducts will work, keeping it as small as I can, and still have a normal Whoop view for the cam. Don't think I'd go with 4S though, that's gonna start adding a bit of weight to my trying to be light Whoop builds. I'm running 3" props on the Dolphin with the ducts, but it's 152mm with 1507s, and if I strapped an 85 on it's back for a spare, it probably wouldn't notice the weight it's got so much power on 4S.

That 1-2S 12amp was a last minute buy. I was just going to use a 12amp 2-4S board for the 1202.5s on the 95, but didn't need the extra overhead, and wanted to give that board a shot. I like the onboard 400mW vtx, save a gram or two, and got the PnP for better range than the onboards, and I haven't got into ELRS, so I'll put a Newbee Beeceiver on it, and put the gram back on the board.

Have you tried those 1002s yet?? That was MildlyUpset Don's pet project, and was trying to get those built by a couple companies. I know he wasn't real pleased with the first ones that came out, but those weren't to his specs, or what he was anticipating, he was posting. Happymodel finally did come out with theirs, strange they took that long, he races for HM Factory Team and worked with them with his design and features on the newer triangle AIOs. The guy does put a lot into this hobby, and a lot of his time. I only remember a couple comments on the HM 1002s before he threw a hissy fit, took his ball, (posts) went home, and didn't come back. 

Most all I've read about the 1002s hasn't been anything about anything, pretty much unimpressive, and not a real popular buy, and the early ones were getting kind of lousy efficiency too. It just seemed like an un-necessary size just to sell something. The 802/16s from the Mobula make a really quick 2S 85 Whoop running 2" props that can easily keep up with any of my big blocks on 2S, and gets better flight times than the Mobula. The 1102/13,500s on 2S is faster than the big block 85s on 2S, lighter feeling, and great air time. I need 1002s because . . . . 

I would be curious to hear what you think of them once they're set up & you've been playing with them a bit. Most of the new/newest brushless motors that are coming out now seem to be a good step up in efficiency, power & amp draw than they were even a year or two ago. Also be interesting to hear where you think they fit in, or if they're even necessary after a bit. New and Improved is always an attention getter . . .

I haven't built it yet. It's my next project. The 1002's are the RCinPower ones that Don hated the most, but after watching Nick Burns videos on them I was sold. Specifically i wanted the 14000kv 2S variant. Which I have. The only bad thing I heard is they eat batteries. But beyond that, they seem to be ok. I've seen a bunch of videos suggesting RCinPower made some 1003's in a 2S variant, I think 12000kv. Those I would also like, but no one seems to have any.

That's not fair giving the motors to Nick, he can run a blimp through his house like a 65 Whoop . . . 

The lame flight times on the early 1002 motors that came out are another reason I lost interest in them. I wasn't really following the thread much, not a lot of interest in them anyway, but thought Don did a couple flight vids with the HM motors, and thought they weren't quite as bad on efficiency as the ones that came out before them, but that was around when he ran away, and I don't remember the flight times being impressive enough to get my interest in them back.  

The B03 Silverware crowd & Nick's vids whoopin through his house are what completely sold me on FPV & Whoops. After seeing him rip around the house, down the stairs & his run through the hallway & back rooms & back up the steps, I knew I just had to try that . . . I'm playing a flippin video game for real, and still lovin it. It's one of just a couple diversions I have that I can get lost in for a while, and get a little escape from all the real life krap that gets in the way of my playtime, and makes me need it even more.

BTW . . . rcInpower does have some new 1003 motors now too . . .

Yes, state side, not over here so far. YourFPV will get them in eventually and then i will buy some, but for now not available. When they are I will grab a set and a second NanoFly frame, maybe the 2" this time.

AFAIK, the RCinPower 1002's I have were the first ones to be released for all the companies. HM released there 1002s over a month later. So mine are definite first generation. But at the same time I think Don was moaning about the 19000kv and 25000kv 1S variants. I have no interest in 1S for the most part. I want 2S minimum. The extra power on Nick's review/flight video of the 1002 14000kv was the precise reason i got mine. Yes, as he mentioned, the flight time was maybe 2.5 mins on most lipos, but I can live with 2.5 mins of hard ripping. When i first started out iFly or Lemony said would I rather have 2 mins of flying by the seat of your pants or 5 mins of flying in a boring manner (or words to that effect). My choice is 2 mins of adrenaline pounding action. After all, I can always take 20 Lipos with me to make up for less flight time.

And yes I wish I had Nick's skills as a pilot. He is pretty god like when he flies in his home. But the guy from the Infinity Loops channel is exceptionally good with whoops as well. Those two I watch a lot.

Yea, Nathan has some flippin awesome flight vids, and usually does a pretty good bunch of flights with the different models so you can get a good idea of at least what he can do with them. He still seems to get the early HM model releases to check out, like a lot of the reviewers use to get too, and gets them quicker than Don.  

I'm not a big 1S fan either. They're fine for me Whoopin around through the house with my 65s & 75s, and my brushed, but they don't get a lot of outside air time when I have bigger, better, faster and have more fun with more power. Only thing with 2S, if the motors can do 3S too, and I run them on 3S . . . I rarely ever go back to 2S with them.

Unless I'd be building a quad for one specific purpose, like a straight line speed run, or a 2 1/2 minute Whoop race, air time is one of my highest priorities. I really don't care how good a quad flies, if it doesn't want to stay in the air, I'm not spending my money on it. I've passed on a bunch of really good/great rated quads, even when they were dirt cheap because of krap air time. 

I also see no reason why I can't have a great fast tight handling quad that gets my mAh=minutes air time or better, and all my 85 & 95 Whoops can do that. I really like flying my quads a lot more than holding them in my hand and feeding them batteries. If we're not in a 2 minute race, I'm still flying around, and you're sitting there feeding your quad another battery . . . I just won !!

That's also why it's a good thing to have all the choices we have with frames, motors and the boards to run them. No matter how you like to fly, there's enough parts out there to make a just right combination for however you do like to fly, and the one thing we all have in common is we sure do like to fly.

I know SPI receiver with default antenna range sucks!.
But I want to try if I can extend the range little more (may be cover an additional room) by binding the Rx with D16 ch 1-8 telemetry off.

For this, do I just go to Tx Model SETUP page->Ch. Rangge change to CH1-8 and Click Bnd button and select Cha1-8 Telem OFF?
Or do I have to do above while quad is set to bind mode by doing bind_rx in betaflight?

I think you’ll need to do both- put the board (quad) into bind mode, and then select those settings on your transmitter and hit bind on the transmitter.

(It’s been a while since I messed with anything FrSky, I’m all ELRS these days.)

(06-May-2023, 05:38 AM)sim_tcr Wrote: I know SPI receiver with default antenna range sucks!.

If you mean the ones with ceramic antennas, I have no issue with them.  Yes, some people hate on them, but I've had no issues with SPI ELRS.  Also a late, the SPI ELRS boards are a good deal cheaper than the serial versions, so I would rather have 2-3 FC for a cheap price than 1-2 for a more expensive price.

The other thing.  Are you intending to fly this quad a mile?  if answer is no, then don't worry about range.  You will never reach it anyway.  The ceramic on my Beta85 is good to half a mile (and probably more).

Idk, I feel lucky to have started on the elrs boards… have 3 flying now. They outdo my tbs unify32 nano with axii2 easily. My favorite indoor rip right now is the 65pro. I’m working on a hotrod 65 right now that I hope will be as good… it’s also getting the beta serial elrs board.

I did some tuning on the 65pro and have it whippin around better than stock… not that stock was horrible, but it had way more propwash. If anyone is interested lmk. I can post the tune later (after I’m done building that hotrod).