Posts: 90 Threads: 31 Likes Received: 49 in 14 posts Likes Given: 92 Joined: May 2019 Reputation: 0 Hey all! I have $367 and I'd really like to build my own gopro/cinematic rig. do I have enough to pull that off? (considering I'd need to also buy the soldering iron) also, if you have specific kits/parts/irons you recommend, let me know! Thanks for your help! -Ross • Posts: 1,773 Threads: 30 Likes Received: 1,199 in 755 posts Likes Given: 714 Joined: Oct 2016 Reputation: 45 Highly unlikely when considering that half your budget will be eaten up in the purchase of a 3-axis gimble to mount and control the GoPro on. Dude, where's my quad? Posts: 90 Threads: 31 Likes Received: 49 in 14 posts Likes Given: 92 Joined: May 2019 Reputation: 0 (17-Jun-2019, 08:18 PM)RENOV8R Wrote: Highly unlikely when considering that half your budget will be eaten up in the purchase of a 3-axis gimble to mount and control the GoPro on. No… I won’t be doing any gimbal stabilization. I have a hero seven and it stabilizes quite a bit! I already have a Vortx 285, I know super old, and it does most of what I want it to do, just not very well... Also I have a Mavic 2 pro, so I’ve got the 3 axis stabilization down pat. Really the hope is to build a relatable acrobatic cinematic platform • Posts: 545 Threads: 28 Likes Received: 135 in 101 posts Likes Given: 94 Joined: Oct 2018 Reputation: 6 Have you considered a Cinewhoop? • Posts: 21,294 Threads: 589 Likes Received: 8,982 in 6,647 posts Likes Given: 1,426 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 789 (17-Jun-2019, 09:27 PM)brnmd Wrote: Have you considered a Cinewhoop? He seems to already have one... https://intofpv.com/t-i-m-hooked-iflight...-is-so-fun So I think he is maybe after something a bit bigger. $367 seems a bit of a specific amount It sounds to me that the OP probably just needs a 5", 6" or 7" quad that he can mount his existing GoPro Hero 7 to the top of. The only thing is that a decent temperature controlled soldering iron (i.e. a TS100 or TS80) is going to eat into at least $50 of that budget. Then there are all the sundry items that everyone always forgets about such as solder, flux, heat shrink tubing, silicone wires, nylon stand-offs, zip ties, spare screws, various tapes, 3D printed parts etc. etc. The list goes on and it all starts to add up pretty quickly. Posts: 12,099 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 So you try to build a 5" with ridget GoPro mount. Flying mostly acro or autonomous? To make it more reliable, are you considering GPS? Are you considering 900mhz radio for longer distance? Posts: 909 Threads: 59 Likes Received: 543 in 318 posts Likes Given: 730 Joined: Nov 2018 Reputation: 26 Tyro 109 ? https://www.banggood.com/Eachine-Tyro109...mds=search That leaves a couple hundred bucks for batteries and tools and stuff. ( boy is there a lot of stuff ) Scott Posts: 473 Threads: 105 Likes Received: 54 in 41 posts Likes Given: 33 Joined: Aug 2018 Reputation: 0 18-Jun-2019, 04:48 AM (This post was last modified: 18-Jun-2019, 04:52 AM by sim_tcr.) I tried to draft below components and price for 5 inch quad with GPS List exclude Tx/Rx, goggles, charger, gopro, gopro mount its coming 360$ If its a 5 inch quad, I think a hero session like camera is best. Posts: 90 Threads: 31 Likes Received: 49 in 14 posts Likes Given: 92 Joined: May 2019 Reputation: 0 (17-Jun-2019, 10:38 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: He seems to already have one... https://intofpv.com/t-i-m-hooked-iflight...-is-so-fun So I think he is maybe after something a bit bigger. $367 seems a bit of a specific amount It sounds to me that the OP probably just needs a 5", 6" or 7" quad that he can mount his existing GoPro Hero 7 to the top of. The only thing is that a decent temperature controlled soldering iron (i.e. a TS100 or TS80) is going to eat into at least $50 of that budget. Then there are all the sundry items that everyone always forgets about such as solder, flux, heat shrink tubing, silicone wires, nylon stand-offs, zip ties, spare screws, various tapes, 3D printed parts etc. etc. The list goes on and it all starts to add up pretty quickly. Thanks for the reply! Yeah, I always forget to consider the tertiary items… • Posts: 90 Threads: 31 Likes Received: 49 in 14 posts Likes Given: 92 Joined: May 2019 Reputation: 0 (17-Jun-2019, 10:38 PM)voodoo614 Wrote: So you try to build a 5" with ridget GoPro mount. Flying mostly acro or autonomous? To make it more reliable, are you considering GPS? Are you considering 900mhz radio for longer distance? Yes, rigid GoPro mount I plan to fly 100% acro… I have a couple DJI products and I am getting a little tired of the autonomy. No need for GPS as most of the flying I picture myself doing will be within 1000 feet of myself. I currently have a DX6 and that seems to be doing the trick with the range. • Posts: 12,099 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 18-Jun-2019, 03:40 PM (This post was last modified: 18-Jun-2019, 03:43 PM by voodoo614.) (18-Jun-2019, 03:07 PM)rossmoney Wrote: Yes, rigid GoPro mount I plan to fly 100% acro… I have a couple DJI products and I am getting a little tired of the autonomy. No need for GPS as most of the flying I picture myself doing will be within 1000 feet of myself. I currently have a DX6 and that seems to be doing the trick with the range. Very doable for $367, considering that you probably just need a 5" freestyle setup. There is tons of build logs here you can check. Also rotorbuilds.com for even more logs. Pick and choice what you want and post a list here to critique. But like Snow say, there are a lot of little things that eats up a lot of budget. So without knowing what you already have, it is only a guess on our part. But purely a quad for $367, you will get a good quad. Quad and soldering iron, still doable. Posts: 321 Threads: 51 Likes Received: 123 in 88 posts Likes Given: 164 Joined: Nov 2017 Reputation: 6 Have you considered building something like a F450? I know they might be outdated, but they are cheap (~$10 on banggood), and the 2212 motors and escs for them are cheap also ($5 for generic ESC, ~$7 for motor on bg). Also, they are efficient because they swing larger props, and can carry heavier payloads such as a camera, and definetly a gopro. Expect flight times from 10 min to 20 min, depending on your setup. Flight controller, I would use any F4 with Inav or something like that. GPS is $12 or less on BG. You can pick up 2200 3s lipo at Hobbyking for ~$10. Overall, the quad itself if you choose to buy the absolute cheapest is around $80-$120 with battery. However, I don't recommend buying from banggood, as they have terrible quality and customer service. Giving your $367 budget, that leaves you /w around $287-$247 for other stuff such as tools, solder, wires, multimeter, extra prop, etc... Since you already have a DX6, which should be sufficient, you could invest in some FPV goggles if you want to, or an FPV monitor. Posts: 90 Threads: 31 Likes Received: 49 in 14 posts Likes Given: 92 Joined: May 2019 Reputation: 0 18-Jun-2019, 09:49 PM (This post was last modified: 18-Jun-2019, 09:50 PM by rossmoney.) (18-Jun-2019, 04:49 PM)raspberrypi33 Wrote: Have you considered building something like a F450? I know they might be outdated, but they are cheap (~$10 on banggood), and the 2212 motors and escs for them are cheap also ($5 for generic ESC, ~$7 for motor on bg). Also, they are efficient because they swing larger props, and can carry heavier payloads such as a camera, and definetly a gopro. Expect flight times from 10 min to 20 min, depending on your setup. Flight controller, I would use any F4 with Inav or something like that. GPS is $12 or less on BG. You can pick up 2200 3s lipo at Hobbyking for ~$10. Overall, the quad itself if you choose to buy the absolute cheapest is around $80-$120 with battery. However, I don't recommend buying from banggood, as they have terrible quality and customer service. Giving your $367 budget, that leaves you /w around $287-$247 for other stuff such as tools, solder, wires, multimeter, extra prop, etc... Since you already have a DX6, which should be sufficient, you could invest in some FPV goggles if you want to, or an FPV monitor. wow... I mean this could literally just be a practice build! that way, WHEN I make mistakes.. it's less dire! thanks for the input! (18-Jun-2019, 04:48 AM)sim_tcr Wrote: I tried to draft below components and price for 5 inch quad with GPS List exclude Tx/Rx, goggles, charger, gopro, gopro mount its coming 360$ If its a 5 inch quad, I think a hero session like camera is best. geez wow. thanks so much for all this info! this is super helpful... maybe a silly question: how does GPS play into this? I'm assuming one benefit is its easier to find if lost? • Posts: 321 Threads: 51 Likes Received: 123 in 88 posts Likes Given: 164 Joined: Nov 2017 Reputation: 6 (18-Jun-2019, 09:49 PM)rossmoney Wrote: wow... I mean this could literally just be a practice build! that way, WHEN I make mistakes.. it's less dire! thanks for the input! geez wow. thanks so much for all this info! this is super helpful... maybe a silly question: how does GPS play into this? I'm assuming one benefit is its easier to find if lost? Well, I have not personally worked with GPS (yet), but it is really helpful in having the "return to home" function, if you lose radio contact as a failsafe. INAV has that ability I believe. Also, you can have the quad fly a predestined route (ex. a pattern around a field) so you don't have to control the quad while flying. This opens up more possibilities such as having camera control via the radio with your gimbal. Furthermore, you can log in your coordinates for general flight logs and such. Here's another thought...If you want REALLY smooth video, try building a tricopter (3 motors instead of 4). This means that less money is spent on the electronics, and the yaw axis is controlled via a servo. This gives super smooth yaw control because the motors don't need to change RPM in order to move the aircraft in a set direction. The resulting video is really smooth; however, these days quads can do almost the same thing. Another plus to the tricopter for filming is that they are much more efficient. There is less stuff to power, the there is less air being displaced by the smaller number of props, so flight times are increased by around 1.5, which is pretty good for aerial photography. Furthermore, there are less points of failure in the tricopter compared to a quadcopter, which makes then a bit more reliable than quads. However, this can be debatable based on part selection and quality. The downside to this setup, however is that there is less thrust because of the number of motors, and the frame is a bit more complicated to build due to the yaw servo mechanism. I suggest checking out this guy's site for more info on tricopters: https://rcexplorer.se/ He made a tricopter with the EMAX RSII motors on 3s with a flight time of over an hour! He used it for long range filming and flying. Happy FPV! Posts: 90 Threads: 31 Likes Received: 49 in 14 posts Likes Given: 92 Joined: May 2019 Reputation: 0 (18-Jun-2019, 10:42 PM)raspberrypi33 Wrote: Well, I have not personally worked with GPS (yet), but it is really helpful in having the "return to home" function, if you lose radio contact as a failsafe. INAV has that ability I believe. Also, you can have the quad fly a predestined route (ex. a pattern around a field) so you don't have to control the quad while flying. This opens up more possibilities such as having camera control via the radio with your gimbal. Furthermore, you can log in your coordinates for general flight logs and such. Here's another thought...If you want REALLY smooth video, try building a tricopter (3 motors instead of 4). This means that less money is spent on the electronics, and the yaw axis is controlled via a servo. This gives super smooth yaw control because the motors don't need to change RPM in order to move the aircraft in a set direction. The resulting video is really smooth; however, these days quads can do almost the same thing. Another plus to the tricopter for filming is that they are much more efficient. There is less stuff to power, the there is less air being displaced by the smaller number of props, so flight times are increased by around 1.5, which is pretty good for aerial photography. Furthermore, there are less points of failure in the tricopter compared to a quadcopter, which makes then a bit more reliable than quads. However, this can be debatable based on part selection and quality. The downside to this setup, however is that there is less thrust because of the number of motors, and the frame is a bit more complicated to build due to the yaw servo mechanism. I suggest checking out this guy's site for more info on tricopters: https://rcexplorer.se/ He made a tricopter with the EMAX RSII motors on 3s with a flight time of over an hour! He used it for long range filming and flying. Happy FPV! wow... I hadn't even considered that! thanks for the tip, definitely worth looking into • |