Posts: 53 Threads: 9 Likes Received: 3 in 2 posts Likes Given: 10 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 0 19-Nov-2019, 01:05 AM (This post was last modified: 19-Nov-2019, 01:11 AM by eforden.) Hey everyone,
Another newbie question - LOL
I flashed my FC today to BF 4.1.1 (previously was running 3.5.0). After the flash it seemed like my FC was completely erased so I had to start over, no big deal. I got everything all set including adding my telemetry back.
It seems like the default PID settings in BF 4 are perhaps more aggressive? When I arm my quad now, it seems like the blades spin up so fast that my quad just flips over and disarms.
I double checked that my motors are all spinning correctly, and that my props are installed correctly.
Any suggestions on what I should look at to troubleshoot this? I'm wondering if there is just a BF setting I've overlooked somewhere.
Thank you as always! ![[-]](https://intofpv.com/images/collapse.png) • Posts: 12,099 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 Things to check.
FC orientation, 3D model in BF correctly corresponding to real-life movement
Motors direction
Motors mapping, the correct signal to the correct motor
Props mounting direction.
All radio trims are centered Posts: 21,201 Threads: 583 Likes Received: 8,940 in 6,615 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 786 Run the following command in the CLI and it should fix your problem... Code: set gyro_1_align_yaw = 1800
save
Posts: 53 Threads: 9 Likes Received: 3 in 2 posts Likes Given: 10 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 0 (19-Nov-2019, 01:26 AM)voodoo614 Wrote: Things to check.
FC orientation, 3D model in BF correctly corresponding to real-life movement
Motors direction
Motors mapping, the correct signal to the correct motor
Props mounting direction.
All radio trims are centered All of those look good, BF is correctly responding correctly to the stick movements on my transmitter. • Posts: 53 Threads: 9 Likes Received: 3 in 2 posts Likes Given: 10 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 0 (19-Nov-2019, 01:36 AM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: Run the following command in the CLI and it should fix your problem...
Code: set gyro_1_align_yaw = 1800
save
I just tried that, but even after the "save" command and the quad disconnecting and reconnecting, it keeps defaulting back to 2700.. so, I instead went to the Configuration page, under the Board and Sensor Alignment section and changed the "First GYRO" drop-down from "CW 270" to "CW 180" and saved it.. I'm running the latest BF Configurator 10.6.0 so not sure why it wouldn't save through the CLI. I'll try out the quad first thing tomorrow morning to see if it worked.. • Posts: 21,201 Threads: 583 Likes Received: 8,940 in 6,615 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 786 (19-Nov-2019, 02:49 AM)eforden Wrote: I just tried that, but even after the "save" command and the quad disconnecting and reconnecting, it keeps defaulting back to 2700.. so, I instead went to the Configuration page, under the Board and Sensor Alignment section and changed the "First GYRO" drop-down from "CW 270" to "CW 180" and saved it.. I'm running the latest BF Configurator 10.6.0 so not sure why it wouldn't save through the CLI.
I'll try out the quad first thing tomorrow morning to see if it worked.. That's weird that it wouldn't save in the CLI on yours because it works fine on mine. Yes, the result you are looking for is First GYRO set to CW 180 so what you've done in the GUI instead is correct. It will fix your problem. Don't ask me how I know  Posts: 12,099 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 Can you post your dump file? • Posts: 116 Threads: 6 Likes Received: 29 in 20 posts Likes Given: 3 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 2 (19-Nov-2019, 02:43 AM)eforden Wrote: All of those look good, BF is correctly responding correctly to the stick movements on my transmitter. on the set page, first tab, that shows "calibrate accelerometer". There is a graphical representation of your quad. rotate your actual quad clockwise? does the graphic match the movement? pitch it forward? does it match? roll your quad left. does it match? if one of these actions does not follow suit, then one of your axis is off and needs to be adjusted. i.e. ROLL degree, YAW degree, PITCH degree located within the Configuration tab page. • Posts: 53 Threads: 9 Likes Received: 3 in 2 posts Likes Given: 10 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 0 (19-Nov-2019, 02:58 AM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: That's weird that it wouldn't save in the CLI on yours because it works fine on mine. Yes, the result you are looking for is First GYRO set to CW 180 so what you've done in the GUI instead is correct.
It will fix your problem. Don't ask me how I know Yep, you were correct, that fixed the problem!! I'm definitely curious about how you figured that out... • Posts: 21,201 Threads: 583 Likes Received: 8,940 in 6,615 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 786 (19-Nov-2019, 01:58 PM)eforden Wrote: Yep, you were correct, that fixed the problem!!
I'm definitely curious about how you figured that out... It was an intelligent calculated guess based on a bit of knowledge and my own experience. I've got a Matek F405-STD flight controller which runs the MATEKF405 target and when I updated that from Betaflight 3.5.7 to 4.0 it required me to manually reconfigure the gyro orientation from the default of "270 CW" to "180 CW" as detailed on Matek's main product page for that FC ( HERE). The flight controller for the Tyro99 and the Tyro109 both use the same MATEKF405 Betaflight target...so... 2 + 2 = 4 I'm glad you are now back flying again  Posts: 53 Threads: 9 Likes Received: 3 in 2 posts Likes Given: 10 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 0 19-Nov-2019, 07:26 PM (This post was last modified: 19-Nov-2019, 07:27 PM by eforden.) (19-Nov-2019, 06:52 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: It was an intelligent calculated guess based on a bit of knowledge and my own experience. I've got a Matek F405-STD flight controller which runs the MATEKF405 target and when I updated that from Betaflight 3.5.7 to 4.0 it required me to manually reconfigure the gyro orientation from the default of "270 CW" to "180 CW" as detailed on Matek's main product page for that FC (HERE).
The flight controller for the Tyro99 and the Tyro109 both use the same MATEKF405 Betaflight target...so...
2 + 2 = 4
I'm glad you are now back flying again Ahh! Very nice, you were spot on with the MATEKF405. I just took a look at that link and see the highlighted banner about updating that after flashing to BF 4.x. Thanks so much again for your help, I just realized too that I completely forgot about specifying that my quad is the Tyro 109! You obviously have a great memory to remember me from the other issues you've helped me with so far Onto my next project - adding GPS to my Tyro 109! Should be here later this week... • |
