Posts: 94 Threads: 19 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 2 Joined: Aug 2021 Reputation: 0 Hi, everyone, I finally got my walksnail goggle x , didn't get a chance to test it properly yet but I like it so far. So it's time to sell my very old skyzone 2 but i find it. Very hard to understand what exactly do I need. I contacted flywoo and they simply said their new analog module isn't supported. Oscarliang is talking about bdi digitadapter, I see get fpv have v2 on back order...I guess the word " adapter " confuses me....do I need anything else if I get It? Someone mentioned the echine pro58rx....if I get it, is that all I need? I guess without a casing it'll just hang lose.... • Posts: 21,408 Threads: 595 Likes Received: 9,035 in 6,687 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 796 02-Jan-2024, 04:01 PM (This post was last modified: 02-Jan-2024, 04:02 PM by SnowLeopardFPV. Edit Reason: Typo corrections. ) I recommend that you keep your old Skyzone 2 goggles for flying your analog quads with. The analog implementation on the Walksnail Avatar Goggle X is very poor. No DVR recording from the AV input source and premature signal degradation where they just put fake snow on the screen. See the following post for more details about that... https://intofpv.com/t-new-walksnail-avat...#pid211681 Posts: 94 Threads: 19 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 2 Joined: Aug 2021 Reputation: 0 02-Jan-2024, 06:18 PM (This post was last modified: 02-Jan-2024, 06:19 PM by bar1.) I did see that issue, does it apply to all analogue adaptors? I was really hoping to sell me skyzone to get some extra cash and to carry less things when I go flying • Posts: 21,408 Threads: 595 Likes Received: 9,035 in 6,687 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 796 Yes, both the lack of DVR and fake snow is present for all analog modules unfortunately. Caddx shouldn't have even bothered putting analog functionality in the goggles unless they were able to do a proper job, but as it stands it's just a half-baked implementation. • Posts: 2,040 Threads: 67 Likes Received: 1,138 in 828 posts Likes Given: 103 Joined: Jan 2023 Reputation: 59 Also depending on how sensitive you are to latency, using analog through Goggles X adds similar latency to using DJI V2 goggles. https://youtu.be/ti3zyavDOow?t=1410 • Posts: 94 Threads: 19 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 2 Joined: Aug 2021 Reputation: 0 I am currently using skyzone 2....I assume I'll still have a better experience with an analog adapter as those goggles are very old now...? • Posts: 479 Threads: 51 Likes Received: 104 in 92 posts Likes Given: 204 Joined: Oct 2023 Reputation: 4 03-Jan-2024, 08:04 AM (This post was last modified: 03-Jan-2024, 08:08 AM by husafreak.) mstc: "depending on how sensitive you are to latency, using analog through Goggles X adds similar latency to using DJI V2 goggles" This is a very important statement. I was planning to replace my 5 year old Fatshark HD3 (non OLED) goggles with the Goggles X which I recently received. I found out right away that I am one of those people who is "sensitive to latency" right away. My first flights with the Goggles X it bothered me enough to change the settings to the ones with the least latency. That's more important than the image quality? I did not see that coming... The best I am seeing in the screen is about 24ms but boy I sure notice when it goes up much from there. I saw a Botgrinder video where he keeps throwing up while trying to fly HD. I thought it was funny when I saw it but I don't think it's funny anymore. I didn't really understand what I was getting in the goggles X but I've done a ton of research and flying this past week since getting them and the backlash is not a bunch of useless fussing over specifications. You really can feel the increased latency and you really can't "fly through" a wall of fake snow. I also admit to being ignorant about the value of recording your flights. To me it wasn't important but now that I am using that feature with my goggles X I realize how valuable it is if only to help find my quad in tall grass. Ignorance made it very easy for me to buy the Goggles X. I'm in total agreement, now, that CaddX should have just left the Analog feature out. I don't know how much it increased the price of the goggles but I do feel that it was a marketing decision where they didn't want to actually put in a viable analog support system, they didn't care that we would find out after we got them that we couldn't use them for that. Which kind of sucks. If they just said "no analog support" I probably would not have bought them though. For the time being I ordered new foam for my HD3's and I guess I'll be leaving my RapidFire module there. And I'll be flying the heck out of my new Walksnail equipped quads because I am absolutely loving the new experience and find the goggles X fine for that (overheating concerns aside). • Posts: 94 Threads: 19 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 2 Joined: Aug 2021 Reputation: 0 03-Jan-2024, 09:19 PM (This post was last modified: 03-Jan-2024, 09:20 PM by bar1.) So no analogue set up that actually work at the moment? (03-Jan-2024, 09:19 PM)bar1 Wrote: So no analogue set up that actually work at the moment? Without dvr • Posts: 21,408 Threads: 595 Likes Received: 9,035 in 6,687 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 796 Analog does work on the Walksnail Avatar Goggles X. You just need to be happy with high latency, no DVR, and the inability to "fly through" a degrading signal because you are just shown a fake white wall of snow instead which is impossible to fly out of (you will likely just lose your quad if that happens). Personally the last two issues are a reason that I wouldn't use them to fly analog quads with because both can result in a lost quad that you can't find because you have no DVR of where abouts it went down, and/or the last images you have in your own memory is just a screen of fake snow which is about as useful as a chocolate teapot. As per usual, Caddx over-promised by marketing their Goggles X as "all in one" goggles and people bought the goggles on that promise only to find out they weren't actually as advertised. Caddx unfortunately have a track record of not being completely honest with their customer base. • Posts: 94 Threads: 19 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 2 Joined: Aug 2021 Reputation: 0 Ok I guess i will stick to my skyzone for now. thanks. • Posts: 21,408 Threads: 595 Likes Received: 9,035 in 6,687 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 796 If Caddx had provided an AV Out socket and not just an AV In socket you could have at least used something like an ImmersionRC PowerPlay to capture the video feed to an external DVR device. But Caddx didn't provide AV Out from their goggles so you are out of luck with that. They are hardly what I would call an "all-in-one" pair of goggles. It was just false BS marketing and click bait hype from Caddx, as per usual. • Posts: 12 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 3 Joined: Aug 2019 Reputation: 0 After reading some really great input on the Caddx Walk Snail HD Goggles X I was really close to buying these goggles but when I read here that you cannot record in Analog mode and the "white snow" that is produced in the goggles while in analog flying i really am disappointed that Caddx would pull something like this on every fpv pilot out there...Didn't they not realize that we would find out about this,I guess not or they just don't care..Now with all this being said does anyone here back the DJI Goggles V2 or the Integra goggles and if so do they record in analog? Thanks guys!!??✈️ • Posts: 21,408 Threads: 595 Likes Received: 9,035 in 6,687 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 796 (02-Apr-2024, 01:25 AM)techfpv Wrote: After reading some really great input on the Caddx Walk Snail HD Goggles X I was really close to buying these goggles but when I read here that you cannot record in Analog mode and the "white snow" that is produced in the goggles while in analog flying i really am disappointed that Caddx would pull something like this on every fpv pilot out there...Didn't they not realize that we would find out about this,I guess not or they just don't care..Now with all this being said does anyone here back the DJI Goggles V2 or the Integra goggles and if so do they record in analog? Thanks guys!!??✈️ The DJI Goggles Integra can't take an analog input feed, neither can the DJI Goggles 2 (not to be confused with the similarly named DJI FPV Goggles V2). When you say "DJI Goggles V2", if you are talking about the now discontinued first generation of DJI FPV Goggles V2 (the larger boxier looking ones), then those do support an analog input signal input and the goggles do record the analog feed to their DVR. However, a couple of things so be aware of is that the image doesn't fill the whole screen of the goggles for some reason like it does with the digital feed, and there is also higher latency than you get from dedicated analog goggles. Typically the analog input feed latency with the DJI FPV Goggles V1/V2 is about the same as the higher digital latency, so about 20-30ms compared to half that when using dedicated analog goggles. There is also a known issue with PAL cameras whereby degradation of the analog signal can cause the goggles to reboot mid-flight rather than just turning to static as per a traditional analog signal loss scenario, and because the goggles take so long to boot back up you will likely have crashed your quad somewhere by then unless it has GPS Rescue capabilities. The same issue doesn't exist with NTSC cameras. One of the WTFOS packages ( avin-mods) claims to resolve the PAL camera issue but it's not something I can personally confirm as I don't run an analog module on my DJI FPV Goggles. You need to root your DJI FPV Goggles V1/V2 and install WTFOS if you want to make use of any of the WTFOS packages. • |