Taking as much as possible of your advice I come up with my recent practice.
Since I am planning to participate this year races in Greece, please be as honest as possible, iot to come up to a descent level.
I planned to make a smaller simpler but most the technically demanding track.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CzBd7q...9zpMw-JqoA

i would care about minimum throttel in corner, if you decrease the throttle to much, the corner-flow doesnt come. but it could also be other things which can make this very difficult, like rates or high topend/ huge throttle scale to manage. what rates do you use?

my tip would be stay more on the throttle, more harmonic changes.

(26-Jan-2020, 01:39 PM)hugnosed_bat Wrote: i would care about minimum throttel in corner, if you decrease the throttle to much, the corner-flow doesnt come. but it could also be other things which can make this very difficult, like rates or high topend/ huge throttle scale to manage. what rates do you use?

my tip would be stay more on the throttle, more harmonic changes.

Copy all Bat!!!
Thanks for your time.
Check my settings when able.

CLI

# DUMP
# Betaflight / COLIBRI_RACE (CLBR) 4.0.6 Sep  1 2019 / 00:25:14 (2a64051a2) MSP API: 1.41 / FEATURE CUT LEVEL 1
batch start
name HADES
resource BEEPER 1 B13
resource MOTOR 1 C06
resource MOTOR 2 C07
resource MOTOR 3 C08
resource MOTOR 4 C09
resource MOTOR 5 A00
resource MOTOR 6 A01
resource MOTOR 7 A02
resource MOTOR 8 A03
resource SERVO 1 NONE
resource SERVO 2 NONE
resource SERVO 3 NONE
resource SERVO 4 NONE
resource SERVO 5 NONE
resource SERVO 6 NONE
resource SERVO 7 NONE
resource SERVO 8 NONE
resource PPM 1 A08
resource PWM 1 NONE
resource PWM 2 NONE
resource PWM 3 NONE
resource PWM 4 NONE
resource PWM 5 NONE
resource PWM 6 NONE
resource PWM 7 NONE
resource PWM 8 NONE
resource LED_STRIP 1 A06
resource SERIAL_TX 1 C04
resource SERIAL_TX 2 A14
resource SERIAL_TX 3 B10
resource SERIAL_TX 4 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 5 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 6 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 7 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 8 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 9 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 10 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 1 C05
resource SERIAL_RX 2 A15
resource SERIAL_RX 3 B11
resource SERIAL_RX 4 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 5 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 6 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 7 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 8 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 9 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 10 NONE
resource I2C_SCL 1 NONE
resource I2C_SCL 2 A09
resource I2C_SDA 1 NONE
resource I2C_SDA 2 A10
resource LED 1 C15
resource LED 2 C14
resource LED 3 C13
resource RX_BIND 1 NONE
resource RX_BIND_PLUG 1 NONE
resource SPI_SCK 1 B03
resource SPI_SCK 2 NONE
resource SPI_SCK 3 NONE
resource SPI_MISO 1 B04
resource SPI_MISO 2 NONE
resource SPI_MISO 3 NONE
resource SPI_MOSI 1 B05
resource SPI_MOSI 2 NONE
resource SPI_MOSI 3 NONE
resource ESCSERIAL 1 A08
resource CAMERA_CONTROL 1 NONE
resource ADC_BATT 1 C00
resource ADC_RSSI 1 C02
resource ADC_CURR 1 C01
resource ADC_EXT 1 C03
resource BARO_CS 1 NONE
resource COMPASS_CS 1 NONE
resource PINIO 1 NONE
resource PINIO 2 NONE
resource PINIO 3 NONE
resource PINIO 4 NONE
resource GYRO_EXTI 1 A05
resource GYRO_CS 1 A04
mixer QUADX

mmix reset

servo 0 1000 2000 1500 100 -1
servo 1 1000 2000 1500 100 -1
servo 2 1000 2000 1500 100 -1
servo 3 1000 2000 1500 100 -1
servo 4 1000 2000 1500 100 -1
servo 5 1000 2000 1500 100 -1
servo 6 1000 2000 1500 100 -1
servo 7 1000 2000 1500 100 -1
smix reset


feature -RX_PPM
feature -INFLIGHT_ACC_CAL
feature -RX_SERIAL
feature -MOTOR_STOP
feature -SERVO_TILT
feature -SOFTSERIAL
feature -GPS
feature -RANGEFINDER
feature -TELEMETRY
feature -3D
feature -RX_PARALLEL_PWM
feature -RX_MSP
feature -RSSI_ADC
feature -LED_STRIP
feature -DISPLAY
feature -OSD
feature -CHANNEL_FORWARDING
feature -TRANSPONDER
feature -AIRMODE
feature -RX_SPI
feature -SOFTSPI
feature -ESC_SENSOR
feature -ANTI_GRAVITY
feature -DYNAMIC_FILTER
feature INFLIGHT_ACC_CAL
feature RX_SERIAL
feature LED_STRIP
feature AIRMODE
feature ANTI_GRAVITY
feature DYNAMIC_FILTER
beeper GYRO_CALIBRATED
beeper RX_LOST
beeper RX_LOST_LANDING
beeper DISARMING
beeper ARMING
beeper ARMING_GPS_FIX
beeper ARMING_GPS_NO_FIX
beeper BAT_CRIT_LOW
beeper BAT_LOW
beeper GPS_STATUS
beeper RX_SET
beeper ACC_CALIBRATION
beeper ACC_CALIBRATION_FAIL
beeper READY_BEEP
beeper MULTI_BEEPS
beeper DISARM_REPEAT
beeper ARMED
beeper SYSTEM_INIT
beeper ON_USB
beeper BLACKBOX_ERASE
beeper CRASH_FLIP
beeper CAM_CONNECTION_OPEN
beeper CAM_CONNECTION_CLOSE
beeper RC_SMOOTHING_INIT_FAIL
beacon RX_LOST
beacon -RX_SET
map TAER1234
serial 20 1 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 0 0 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 1 64 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 2 0 115200 57600 0 115200
aux 0 0 0 900 1300 0 0
aux 1 1 1 900 1250 0 0
aux 2 2 1 1300 1700 0 0
aux 3 36 3 1500 2100 0 0
aux 4 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 5 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 6 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 7 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 8 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 9 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 10 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 11 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 12 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 13 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 14 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 15 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 16 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 17 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 18 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 19 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 0 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 1 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 2 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 3 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 4 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 5 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 6 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 7 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 8 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 9 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 10 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 11 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 12 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 13 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 14 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 15 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 16 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 17 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 18 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 19 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 20 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 21 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 22 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 23 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 24 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 25 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 26 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 27 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 28 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 29 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
rxrange 0 1000 2000
rxrange 1 1000 2000
rxrange 2 1000 2000
rxrange 3 1000 2000
vtx 0 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 1 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 2 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 3 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 4 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 5 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 6 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 7 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 8 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 9 0 0 0 900 900
rxfail 0 a
rxfail 1 a
rxfail 2 a
rxfail 3 a
rxfail 4 h
rxfail 5 h
rxfail 6 h
rxfail 7 h
rxfail 8 h
rxfail 9 h
rxfail 10 h
rxfail 11 h
rxfail 12 h
rxfail 13 h
rxfail 14 h
rxfail 15 h
rxfail 16 h
rxfail 17 h
set gyro_hardware_lpf = NORMAL
set gyro_sync_denom = 2
set gyro_lowpass_type = BIQUAD
set gyro_lowpass_hz = 150
set gyro_lowpass2_type = PT1
set gyro_lowpass2_hz = 150
set gyro_notch1_hz = 0
set gyro_notch1_cutoff = 0
set gyro_notch2_hz = 0
set gyro_notch2_cutoff = 0
set gyro_calib_duration = 125
set gyro_calib_noise_limit = 48
set gyro_offset_yaw = 0
set yaw_spin_recovery = ON
set yaw_spin_threshold = 1950
set dyn_notch_range = AUTO
set dyn_notch_width_percent = 8
set dyn_notch_q = 120
set dyn_notch_min_hz = 150
set dyn_lpf_gyro_min_hz = 150
set dyn_lpf_gyro_max_hz = 450
set gyro_filter_debug_axis = ROLL
set acc_hardware = AUTO
set acc_lpf_hz = 10
set acc_trim_pitch = 0
set acc_trim_roll = 0
set acc_calibration = -105,59,124
set align_mag = DEFAULT
set mag_bustype = I2C
set mag_i2c_device = 2
set mag_i2c_address = 0
set mag_spi_device = 0
set mag_hardware = NONE
set mag_declination = 0
set mag_calibration = 0,0,0
set baro_bustype = I2C
set baro_spi_device = 0
set baro_i2c_device = 2
set baro_i2c_address = 0
set baro_hardware = NONE
set baro_tab_size = 21
set baro_noise_lpf = 600
set baro_cf_vel = 985
set mid_rc = 1500
set min_check = 1050
set max_check = 1900
set rssi_channel = 0
set rssi_src_frame_errors = OFF
set rssi_scale = 100
set rssi_offset = 0
set rssi_invert = OFF
set rc_interp = AUTO
set rc_interp_ch = RPYT
set rc_interp_int = 19
set rc_smoothing_type = FILTER
set rc_smoothing_input_hz = 0
set rc_smoothing_derivative_hz = 0
set rc_smoothing_debug_axis = ROLL
set rc_smoothing_input_type = BIQUAD
set rc_smoothing_derivative_type = BIQUAD
set rc_smoothing_auto_smoothness = 10
set fpv_mix_degrees = 0
set max_aux_channels = 14
set serialrx_provider = SBUS
set serialrx_inverted = OFF
set spektrum_sat_bind = 0
set spektrum_sat_bind_autoreset = ON
set airmode_start_throttle_percent = 25
set rx_min_usec = 885
set rx_max_usec = 2115
set serialrx_halfduplex = OFF
set adc_device = 1
set adc_vrefint_calibration = 0
set adc_tempsensor_calibration30 = 0
set adc_tempsensor_calibration110 = 0
set input_filtering_mode = OFF
set blackbox_p_ratio = 32
set blackbox_device = SERIAL
set blackbox_record_acc = ON
set blackbox_mode = NORMAL
set min_throttle = 1070
set max_throttle = 2000
set min_command = 1000
set dshot_idle_value = 550
set dshot_burst = OFF
set use_unsynced_pwm = OFF
set motor_pwm_protocol = ONESHOT125
set motor_pwm_rate = 480
set motor_pwm_inversion = OFF
set motor_poles = 14
set thr_corr_value = 0
set thr_corr_angle = 800
set failsafe_delay = 4
set failsafe_off_delay = 10
set failsafe_throttle = 1000
set failsafe_switch_mode = STAGE1
set failsafe_throttle_low_delay = 100
set failsafe_procedure = DROP
set align_board_roll = 0
set align_board_pitch = 0
set align_board_yaw = 0
set gimbal_mode = NORMAL
set bat_capacity = 0
set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 430
set vbat_full_cell_voltage = 410
set vbat_min_cell_voltage = 330
set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 350
set vbat_hysteresis = 1
set current_meter = VIRTUAL
set battery_meter = NONE
set vbat_detect_cell_voltage = 300
set use_vbat_alerts = ON
set use_cbat_alerts = OFF
set cbat_alert_percent = 10
set vbat_cutoff_percent = 100
set force_battery_cell_count = 0
set vbat_lpf_period = 30
set ibat_lpf_period = 10
set vbat_scale = 110
set vbat_divider = 10
set vbat_multiplier = 1
set ibata_scale = 400
set ibata_offset = 0
set ibatv_scale = 0
set ibatv_offset = 0
set beeper_inversion = ON
set beeper_od = OFF
set beeper_frequency = 0
set beeper_dshot_beacon_tone = 1
set yaw_motors_reversed = OFF
set crashflip_motor_percent = 0
set 3d_deadband_low = 1406
set 3d_deadband_high = 1514
set 3d_neutral = 1460
set 3d_deadband_throttle = 50
set 3d_limit_low = 1000
set 3d_limit_high = 2000
set 3d_switched_mode = OFF
set servo_center_pulse = 1500
set servo_pwm_rate = 50
set servo_lowpass_hz = 0
set tri_unarmed_servo = ON
set channel_forwarding_start = 4
set reboot_character = 82
set serial_update_rate_hz = 100
set imu_dcm_kp = 2500
set imu_dcm_ki = 0
set small_angle = 180
set auto_disarm_delay = 5
set gyro_cal_on_first_arm = OFF
set deadband = 0
set yaw_deadband = 0
set yaw_control_reversed = OFF
set pid_process_denom = 3
set runaway_takeoff_prevention = ON
set runaway_takeoff_deactivate_delay = 500
set runaway_takeoff_deactivate_throttle_percent = 20
set thrust_linear = 0
set tlm_inverted = OFF
set tlm_halfduplex = ON
set frsky_vfas_precision = 0
set hott_alarm_int = 5
set pid_in_tlm = OFF
set report_cell_voltage = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_sensors = 491520
set ledstrip_visual_beeper = OFF
set ledstrip_visual_beeper_color = WHITE
set ledstrip_grb_rgb = GRB
set ledstrip_profile = RACE
set ledstrip_race_color = ORANGE
set ledstrip_beacon_color = WHITE
set ledstrip_beacon_period_ms = 500
set ledstrip_beacon_percent = 50
set ledstrip_beacon_armed_only = OFF
set task_statistics = ON
set debug_mode = NONE
set rate_6pos_switch = OFF
set pwr_on_arm_grace = 5
set scheduler_optimize_rate = OFF
set vtx_band = 4
set vtx_channel = 1
set vtx_power = 1
set vtx_low_power_disarm = OFF
set vtx_freq = 5740
set vtx_pit_mode_freq = 0
set vtx_halfduplex = ON
set displayport_msp_col_adjust = 0
set displayport_msp_row_adjust = 0
set esc_sensor_halfduplex = OFF
set esc_sensor_current_offset = 0
set led_inversion = 0
set camera_control_mode = HARDWARE_PWM
set camera_control_ref_voltage = 330
set camera_control_key_delay = 180
set camera_control_internal_resistance = 470
set camera_control_inverted = OFF
set pinio_config = 1,1,1,1
set pinio_box = 255,255,255,255
set rcdevice_init_dev_attempts = 6
set rcdevice_init_dev_attempt_interval = 1000
set rcdevice_protocol_version = 0
set rcdevice_feature = 0
set gyro_1_bustype = SPI
set gyro_1_spibus = 1
set gyro_1_i2cBus = 0
set gyro_1_i2c_address = 0
set gyro_1_sensor_align = CW270
profile 0

set dyn_lpf_dterm_min_hz = 150
set dyn_lpf_dterm_max_hz = 250
set dterm_lowpass_type = BIQUAD
set dterm_lowpass_hz = 150
set dterm_lowpass2_type = PT1
set dterm_lowpass2_hz = 100
set dterm_notch_hz = 0
set dterm_notch_cutoff = 0
set vbat_pid_gain = ON
set pid_at_min_throttle = ON
set anti_gravity_mode = SMOOTH
set anti_gravity_threshold = 250
set anti_gravity_gain = 5000
set feedforward_transition = 0
set acc_limit_yaw = 0
set acc_limit = 0
set crash_dthreshold = 50
set crash_gthreshold = 400
set crash_setpoint_threshold = 350
set crash_time = 500
set crash_delay = 0
set crash_recovery_angle = 10
set crash_recovery_rate = 100
set crash_limit_yaw = 200
set crash_recovery = OFF
set iterm_rotation = ON
set iterm_relax = RP
set iterm_relax_type = SETPOINT
set iterm_relax_cutoff = 20
set iterm_windup = 100
set iterm_limit = 400
set pidsum_limit = 500
set pidsum_limit_yaw = 400
set yaw_lowpass_hz = 0
set throttle_boost = 5
set throttle_boost_cutoff = 15
set acro_trainer_angle_limit = 20
set acro_trainer_lookahead_ms = 50
set acro_trainer_debug_axis = ROLL
set acro_trainer_gain = 75
set p_pitch = 50
set i_pitch = 70
set d_pitch = 45
set f_pitch = 75
set p_roll = 45
set i_roll = 60
set d_roll = 45
set f_roll = 70
set p_yaw = 35
set i_yaw = 100
set d_yaw = 10
set f_yaw = 0
set angle_level_strength = 50
set horizon_level_strength = 50
set horizon_transition = 75
set level_limit = 55
set horizon_tilt_effect = 75
set horizon_tilt_expert_mode = OFF
set use_integrated_yaw = OFF
set integrated_yaw_relax = 200
set d_min_roll = 20
set d_min_pitch = 25
set d_min_yaw = 5
set d_min_boost_gain = 30
set d_min_advance = 20
set motor_output_limit = 100
set auto_profile_cell_count = 0
set launch_control_mode = NORMAL
set launch_trigger_allow_reset = ON
set launch_trigger_throttle_percent = 20
set launch_angle_limit = 0
set launch_control_gain = 40
rateprofile 0

set thr_mid = 50
set thr_expo = 0
set rates_type = BETAFLIGHT
set roll_rc_rate = 100
set pitch_rc_rate = 100
set yaw_rc_rate = 100
set roll_expo = 0
set pitch_expo = 0
set yaw_expo = 0
set roll_srate = 65
set pitch_srate = 65
set yaw_srate = 65
set tpa_rate = 50
set tpa_breakpoint = 1500
set tpa_mode = D
set throttle_limit_type = OFF
set throttle_limit_percent = 100
set roll_rate_limit = 1998
set pitch_rate_limit = 1998
set yaw_rate_limit = 1998
batch end

#

„set roll_rc_rate = 100
set pitch_rc_rate = 100
set yaw_rc_rate = 100
set roll_expo = 0
set pitch_expo = 0
set yaw_expo = 0
set roll_srate = 65
set pitch_srate = 65
set yaw_srate = 65“

these rates are way to high, i still struggle with finding good rates. i know and like the default rates as universal settup, i have a strange sort of smooth them by use low p values sometimes - pretty wrong xD
my buddys allways tell me i should lower my rates xD and i know i would fly faster, but i only fly on funraces, only for pleasure regardless of results. they laughter about my edges in the flyline, until they see my recoverys from faults xD i would win a price there if there would be one XD
while still struggle, i often increase a bit supperrate to have better stickrange at middle of the stick and lower the rc-rate a bit.
the buddys which fly on regulary and international races have very very low values, some of the fastest !180deg/s!.
i would suggest try a dramatic low value at least for 3 batterys, probably an rcrate of 50, you will struggle to recover after a fault, but it will tease you to fly clear flylines and harmonic turns. i cant say it work for me, but i know to win a race i would need this direction.

(if both tried on the same time it would probably feel to unknown, what i personaly hate, i would try rates first and add throttle scale later. edit: probably throttle limit first and rates after would be better.
try out a throttle limit of 75%, it will give much more throttle resolution for regular fast racespeed. some good pilots i know, fly on 70%, after the get the flyline of the track automaticly, they use the switch to change the rateprofile to 85% or more. one of the best pilots i know rarly use 100% throttle resulution.)