Posts: 664 Threads: 121 Likes Received: 24 in 23 posts Likes Given: 490 Joined: Apr 2021 Reputation: 0 Hello  1)i would like to ask some advices if there is a possible best configuration of rates and PIDs for a first smoth fly experience in acro ? i did practice with simulator using a PS4 controller and i'm able to fligh... i will do some other practice with my friend taranis xlite on liftoff before the real flight. maybe first moments i will start with the assisted mode to take confidance with visor and camera distorsion. 2)should I try to move the angle of the camera just a little upwards from that default position ? https://i.imgur.com/8Vq0sG6.jpg ![[-]](https://intofpv.com/images/collapse.png) • Posts: 2,365 Threads: 118 Likes Received: 815 in 662 posts Likes Given: 128 Joined: Feb 2021 Reputation: 20 Don’t mess with “PIDS”.. changing your Rates will help. Add expo.. it will “flatten”the curve.. also the rotation of degree per second should be lowered if it’s a lot (800-1000)..
I am limited to a old laptop (no graphics card) and run “Flowstate”… it is a cheap racing sim, it helped me with learning ACRO and understand the effect of changing rates.. Posts: 590 Threads: 16 Likes Received: 176 in 149 posts Likes Given: 26 Joined: Jun 2021 Reputation: 8 I would start out on the stock settings, and not worry about trying to tune until you are more experienced and know what to look/feel for.
You can use ANGLE mode to make it easier for your first flights, it stops the quad from flipping over. It is hard to learn, but stick with it and it because so much fun! • Posts: 21,307 Threads: 589 Likes Received: 8,988 in 6,653 posts Likes Given: 1,426 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 789 My vote also goes for stock everything. Don't mess with anything until you have at least learned to fly on the defaults.
I started out learning on the stock rate settings and 3 years later I'm actually still using those stock rates (667 degrees of rotation per second) because I got used to them and my muscle memory is now tuned to those rates. • Posts: 2,365 Threads: 118 Likes Received: 815 in 662 posts Likes Given: 128 Joined: Feb 2021 Reputation: 20 I agree to a point.. due to some FCs (can’t remember what one) came with degrees per second up over 1000. But yeah. If it’s the standard 667… it is still a little “sensitive” in the center.. a little expo wouldn’t hurt • Posts: 6,113 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,287 in 1,834 posts Likes Given: 4,737 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 the rates are personal, you will need to explore. i would suggest the same as snow, defaults are good start.
if you like to do racing, decrease the rates to about 500deg/s as start value. • Posts: 1,489 Threads: 92 Likes Received: 574 in 468 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Nov 2020 Reputation: 27 There is often too much focus on PID.. and too much blame on bad PID when you crash.
Filters are there so quad doesnt react to the propwash and vibration of its own motors.
PID is how quickly and agressively FC is "whipping" your motors to follow your inputs.
There is no magic perfect value. It wont fix your flying.
You just need okish ballpark tune.
But most understated are:
- camera angle
- rates
- prop • Posts: 664 Threads: 121 Likes Received: 24 in 23 posts Likes Given: 490 Joined: Apr 2021 Reputation: 0 ok, thanks to everyone for advices my camera now is in that position: https://i.imgur.com/8Vq0sG6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/R0kQM4y.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pGKzpNc.jpg looks like in 0 degres, how i can measure an increase of angle ? maybe with a goniometer ? • Posts: 6,113 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,287 in 1,834 posts Likes Given: 4,737 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 just by eyes, works precise enough. you can use this: ![[Image: AaqerGwl.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/AaqerGwl.jpg) • Posts: 664 Threads: 121 Likes Received: 24 in 23 posts Likes Given: 490 Joined: Apr 2021 Reputation: 0 (09-Aug-2021, 03:13 PM)hugnosed_bat Wrote: just by eyes, works precise enough.
you can use this:
Is like that 10° ?: https://i.imgur.com/pUKZw8n.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0j4NLH3.jpg https://i.imgur.com/28PXgnM.jpg looks already lot ! on liftoff i use 120° as wideangle and 25° of angle. • Posts: 21,307 Threads: 589 Likes Received: 8,988 in 6,653 posts Likes Given: 1,426 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 789 (09-Aug-2021, 04:41 PM)Rosssiiii Wrote: https://i.imgur.com/pUKZw8n.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0j4NLH3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/28PXgnM.jpg
looks already lot !
on liftoff i use 120° as wideangle and 25° of angle. That looks a similar angle to mine. I use a 25° camera angle on my main freestyle quads which suits the way I fly. • Posts: 664 Threads: 121 Likes Received: 24 in 23 posts Likes Given: 490 Joined: Apr 2021 Reputation: 0 (09-Aug-2021, 04:45 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: That looks a similar angle to mine. I use a 25° camera angle on my main freestyle quads which suits the way I fly. so maybe i have to reduce a bit ? • Posts: 6,113 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,287 in 1,834 posts Likes Given: 4,737 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 10-Aug-2021, 07:36 PM (This post was last modified: 10-Aug-2021, 07:37 PM by hugnosed_bat.) the cam angle determinate the forward flight speed, the view for particular speed area. personal i would suggest 30degree as start, depending on the video of your first flight, increase or decrease it. • Posts: 664 Threads: 121 Likes Received: 24 in 23 posts Likes Given: 490 Joined: Apr 2021 Reputation: 0 16-Aug-2021, 03:25 PM (This post was last modified: 16-Aug-2021, 03:26 PM by Rosssiiii.) (10-Aug-2021, 07:36 PM)hugnosed_bat Wrote: the cam angle determinate the forward flight speed, the view for particular speed area. personal i would suggest 30degree as start, depending on the video of your first flight, increase or decrease it. 30 degree is a lot...to see the ground I have to give a lot of pitch. now i reduced a bit the angle from the first configuration: https://i.imgur.com/Vdjhfvb.jpg • Posts: 6,113 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,287 in 1,834 posts Likes Given: 4,737 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 16-Aug-2021, 08:30 PM (This post was last modified: 16-Aug-2021, 08:31 PM by hugnosed_bat.) i fly regular from 45 up to 60deg. i would say 55 to 90 is a lot.
30deg is what was a good forward speed to learn stear and controll the quad for me.
your view is in 2d, the only response for the third dimension is movement. while freestyler like very low angles sometimes, movement is needed, to low will be more difficult for a beginner ;-) |
