Posts: 8 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 2 in 1 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: Apr 2021 Reputation: 0  12-Apr-2021, 08:30 PM (This post was last modified: 12-Apr-2021, 08:32 PM by Niklas0400.) Hey guys, I'm new to fpv racing and want to build my first own quad.
If you could help me out and tell me your opinion about the parts I chose that would be a great help!
Thanks a lot!
Frame:
Armattan Gecko 4 inch
FC:
Mamba F405 Mini MK3 20x20 Stack (Betaflight)
ESC:
Mamba F35 35A 6SHV ESC (Stack)
Motor:
BetaFPV 1805 2550 KV
Props:
Gemfam 5125 3 Blade
Reciever:
FrSky R-XSR Ultra
VTX:
Caddx Vista Nebula Pro
Goggles:
DJI FPV Goggles V2
Battery:
Tattu 4s 850mAh 75C
Controller:
FrSky Taranis X9D - Plus
+Lipostraps ![[-]](https://intofpv.com/images/collapse.png) • Posts: 2,365 Threads: 118 Likes Received: 815 in 662 posts Likes Given: 128 Joined: Feb 2021 Reputation: 20 Only thing I would say is go annalog at first.. for a couple of reasons.
1-You said your “new”
2-You WILL crash .. ALOT!!
3-DJI components are twice as much..
so unless u have DEEP pockets..
you may want to go a different vtx route.. Posts: 8 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 2 in 1 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: Apr 2021 Reputation: 0 (12-Apr-2021, 09:04 PM)Rob Axel Wrote: Only thing I would say is go annalog at first.. for a couple of reasons.
1-You said your “new”
2-You WILL crash .. ALOT!!
3-DJI components are twice as much..
so unless u have DEEP pockets..
you may want to go a different vtx route.. Thank you for the quick response Rob! tbh I'm not 100% new I already flew some analog fpv like 4 years ago but lost the interest. Now I saw that there are these new digital fpv systems and I was realy impressed ... My concern is that if I buy analog again I will end up buying the digital system half a year later anyways... But I'm already practicing a lot in the simulator and hope this will help a little bit... • Posts: 21,317 Threads: 590 Likes Received: 8,997 in 6,660 posts Likes Given: 1,426 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 790 You mention in the OP that you are new to racing. If it is specifically racing you are interested in rather than freestyle then the variable and higher latency of the DJI FPV system isn't good enough for competitive racing, so keep that in mind. To get acceptable fixed latency for racing you would really need to look at the FatShark Shark Byte digital system instead. • Posts: 8 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 2 in 1 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: Apr 2021 Reputation: 0 (12-Apr-2021, 09:51 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: You mention in the OP that you are new to racing. If it is specifically racing you are interested in rather than freestyle then the variable and higher latency of the DJI FPV system isn't good enough for competitive racing, so keep that in mind. To get acceptable fixed latency for racing you would really need to look at the FatShark Shark Byte digital system instead. Sorry my bad... I mainly want to freestyle  • Posts: 21,317 Threads: 590 Likes Received: 8,997 in 6,660 posts Likes Given: 1,426 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 790 12-Apr-2021, 10:02 PM (This post was last modified: 12-Apr-2021, 10:18 PM by SnowLeopardFPV. Edit Reason: Fixed broken URL. ) OK, then your choice of goggles is fine as long as you keep in mind the direction that DJI seem to be heading with the standalone FPV system and are OK with that (see another thread about that HERE). I would probably choose different motors than ones from BetaFPV because their QC seems to have got increasingly worse recently. If you have the budget, I would also invest in better RC Link gear instead of one that uses the FrSky ACCST protocol - something like TBS Crossfire, TBS Tracer, ImmersionRC Ghost, or if you are feeling adventurous, ExpressLRS. Also I would consider a RadioMaster TX16S over the FrSky X9D+. Posts: 2,365 Threads: 118 Likes Received: 815 in 662 posts Likes Given: 128 Joined: Feb 2021 Reputation: 20 • Posts: 5,907 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,786 in 2,248 posts Likes Given: 7,693 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 +1 on Snow's recommendations. • Posts: 8 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 2 in 1 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: Apr 2021 Reputation: 0 (12-Apr-2021, 10:02 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: OK, then your choice of goggles is fine as long as you keep in mind the direction that DJI seem to be heading with the standalone FPV system and are OK with that (see another thread about that HERE).
I would probably choose different motors than ones from BetaFPV because their QC seems to have got increasingly worse recently.
If you have the budget, I would also invest in better RC Link gear instead of one that uses the FrSky ACCST protocol - something like TBS Crossfire, TBS Tracer, ImmersionRC Ghost, or if you are feeling adventurous, ExpressLRS. Also I would consider a RadioMaster TX16S over the FrSky X9D+. Oh okay I didn't know that about DJI... Is there any good alternative to the DJI Goggle than waiting for for another company to build some good digital goggles? Are there any motors you can recommend? Is the 4S ~2500 KV a good idea or should I better go for a 6S ~ 1500KV System. Read some different opinions in another forum... I already have the Taranis X9D - Plus from older times so I'd like to use it... I read that the R-XRS Ultra is one of the best options for the Taranis. Thank you a lot for all those information! Thats realy helpful • Posts: 115 Threads: 5 Likes Received: 40 in 28 posts Likes Given: 10 Joined: Dec 2019 Reputation: 3 13-Apr-2021, 09:53 AM (This post was last modified: 13-Apr-2021, 09:54 AM by patlo911.) (13-Apr-2021, 07:17 AM)Niklas0400 Wrote: Oh okay I didn't know that about DJI... Is there any good alternative to the DJI Goggle than waiting for for another company to build some good digital goggles? Short answer: no, nothing else comes close. Honestly I'm not worried because there hasn't even been a breath of a rumor that Caddx will stop any production of the vista. You should be aware that there currently is a massive chip shortage in the world so lot's of things are getting harder to get hold of so you might want to check what's actually available before you decide. In my mind you have two choises: 1. Go with DJI and things will most likely be fine when productions can ramp back up. 2. Go analog so you can wait and see what happens over the coming months. Route 2 actually isn't bad becasue if you want to ever have a passenger you'll need two goggles and two digital are too expensive but when you upgrade in the future you'll have an extra pair to lend and if you go with something like the EV800D they're cheap and quite nice. That's what happened to me and I'm glad I have some analog stuff even though I mostly use digital these days. Posts: 21,317 Threads: 590 Likes Received: 8,997 in 6,660 posts Likes Given: 1,426 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 790 I'm not trying to put you off getting the DJI gear, just make you aware that what we have been seeing recently suggests that DJI are moving away from support and development of their standalone DJI FPV system in favour of their own DJI FPV Drone. We don't know this for sure and only time will tell, but the signs seem to be there and what we have now may not get improved upon, so we might be stuck with what has already been developed until such time that DJI don't think it's worth the time and money to continue manufacturing the custom ASICs needed for the system, which would then cause production to be ceased. Caddx is currently continuing to manufacture the Vista (and maybe also the Air Unit) under license from DJI, but it is DJI who own all the IP and pay for production of the ASICs needed to run the whole system, so it is ultimately them who deicide when production will stop. That will be out of Caddx' control unfortunately.
There is nothing to stop you buying the DJI gear and this isn't scaremongering. You just keep to keep an open mind that it may become an end-of-life product sooner than everyone was expecting. The only current alternative at the moment is the FatShark Shark Byte system. FrSky are also in the process of bringing something to market which appears to be the same or similar to Shark Byte, and ORQA are purportedly working on something, but their lips are currently sealed.
For the record, I do own the DJI gear myself. • Posts: 8 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 2 in 1 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: Apr 2021 Reputation: 0 (13-Apr-2021, 09:53 AM)patlo911 Wrote: Short answer: no, nothing else comes close. Honestly I'm not worried because there hasn't even been a breath of a rumor that Caddx will stop any production of the vista. You should be aware that there currently is a massive chip shortage in the world so lot's of things are getting harder to get hold of so you might want to check what's actually available before you decide. In my mind you have two choises:
1. Go with DJI and things will most likely be fine when productions can ramp back up.
2. Go analog so you can wait and see what happens over the coming months.
Route 2 actually isn't bad becasue if you want to ever have a passenger you'll need two goggles and two digital are too expensive but when you upgrade in the future you'll have an extra pair to lend and if you go with something like the EV800D they're cheap and quite nice. That's what happened to me and I'm glad I have some analog stuff even though I mostly use digital these days. Thank you for the answer! Maybe it's a good idea to start with an cheap analog system and to upgrade to the digital system when time has come.. |
