https://youtu.be/G2mzap20rEk?si=R_GLMMgEYf83FP6k

Thank the FAA.. they are looking out for “your safety” as a commercial pilot …
He lumps drone pilots together was being a certain way.. yet he himself is a drone pilot ..

I will say.. From my personal experience, a large portion of the drone forum communities are trolls that would rather bash or get someone in trouble than helping them learn and grow.. This forum has been nothing but great but I've left several other platforms because nothing was constructive and the people were overly obnoxious about making assumptions and call outs when someone would post a video. Not sure if it's ego or ignorance but it can get old. Drone pilot or not, nobody likes a "Karen" lol

Firstly, I believe he is a pilot who flies drones as well. Not a drone hobbyist that happens to just fly planes as well. And he addresses the half-hearted "dig" at drone pilots within hi first sentence in the description. I wondered how people could misinterpret his joke...

So I blame the self-policing "community" of karens. FAA just doing their job...

Second, he isn't wrong. At all.

I have had more interactions with "karen" types on forums dedicated to drones than I have in real life. Granted I'm not out flying in the city and building diving, so I say it will be a little while before I encounter one in the wild.

But the amount of flak that other supposed drone pilots give people on sites dedicated to "sharing the love" that is fpv is very concerning. Like if I post a video of me doing something not kosher affects you in any way. It doesn't. It also doesn't cost you anything by me posting it.

Also cost-free is the ability to STFU and keep your opinion to yourself, especially when nobody asks for it. I get it; we all want to be heard! But not everything you have to say is worth opening your mouth for.

/rant

This isn't directed to anyone here, just general observations, as echoed by the gentlemen in the video. Furthering the lunacy that I just described above, HIS OWN COMPANY filed the complaint. The people supposedly hurting by the lack of pilots turned in one of their own pilots.

(06-Sep-2023, 12:30 PM)R ob Axel Wrote: He lumps drone pilots together was being a certain way.. yet he himself is a drone pilot ..

Sorry to say but as others has mentioned, I think he's right. I do the same. I was on a fairly local social media group and someone posted a pretty cool quad video from a somewhat different environment. I didn't count but he got a lot more comments about rules and regulations that anything else, and loads more of those annoying emojis that indicate dislike rather than thumbs up. So yeah, I'm also guilty. Although there where some exceptions I've lumped everyone on that forum together.

Based on some of the comments I wonder if some of you are not aware of how awful some humans actually are. This was true long before someone came up with the term "Karen". True for the real world but particularly for the Internet where people can hide behind anonymity. Though I'm a firm believer in anonymity for places like here and want nothing to do with social media sites under my real name because of cancel culture which I've seen people deal with first hand. I'm also amazed at how people don't understand how diverse peoples opinion or thought process is unlike their own. Or how quickly people will claim a specific "right" of theirs is being violated but would gladly strike down a dozen right's of others because it doesn't affect them.

As for hobbies, all manner of hobbies and life are filled with gatekeepers. Can't be a finer example than in the RC flying hobby with the air field fliers vs FPV. Or people that look down on noobs but don't do anything to help those noobs learn, especially if they complain that noobs are what's going to break your beloved hobby.

I'm well aware of how awful humans are, but I like to think that the hobbies I choose are filled with like-minded individuals. But you may be right.

I don't, or haven't, seen much gatekeeping in many of my other hobbies. At least not to the degree that fellow hobbyists would rat you out to the law. Or call you out for something they themselves have done. I guess I just don't get the way people think anymore. Used to be a common misery we all shared, no it seems we all need our own brand of it.

.. it’s the fact people don’t get held accountable for their actions.. you “call someone out” in public, it’s YOU in front of the person AND everyone else.. and if your just stirring the pot.. you get held accountable.. one way or another..
Now, we have “keyboard commandos”.. people hiding behind a screen.. and it’s all TYPE.. 99% of these people wouldn’t have the confidence to even raise their voice if needed.. you would hear “I don’t want to say anything.. I don’t people to think I’m a trouble maker “..
Behind a keyboard.. they go nuts and there is NO ACCOUNTABILITY…

I concur Rob. It's not the bravado types I worry about though, it's the ones who follow through with it. Luckily those are very rare, I think, or hope.

I'm trying to watch the news less. Just endless doom.

The problem is you have to put disclaimers onto everything nowadays to say “this was done in a controlled environment, do not attempt”, because people are just so debbie downer and cynical that they automatically assume something was done ad hoc without any preparation.

I can’t blame him for his views, the model / drone flying community is full of Karens’ whose sole purpose it is to go out of their way to make everybody else’s life miserable, every club has one of them who bemoans the fact someone parked 2 foot closer to the flight line than the designated 150m safe distance but also loads up his battery into his plane with the radio off while standing directly on front of and leaning over a 12” prop and totally brushes it off as nothing when you point out their stupidity.

But I can also understand the flip side and why someone wagging their fingers at him when it seems the FAA are going out of their way to regulate drone flights while other forms of GA have barely any regulations covering general operations, everybody is pissed at everybody else atm, thanks FAA.

Hmm. Let's give this a bit more thought. 

Right off the bat, there are videos of certain flights that obviously appear to be
in violation of the FAA regulations, disclaimer or not. Long flight videos are right 
up at the top of the list. There is simply no way that these flights are within Visual 
Line Of Sight and pretty easy to prove. Next, you have things like flying over a crowd 
of people, flying too close to manned aircraft, flying over a train (illegal in the USA), 
and a host of other things that violate the regulations and that might be shown pretty 
well in the video. 

The internet is the wide open, the Wild Wild Web, which is accessible to anyone
at any time as is social media. Anyone can be watching; The Good, The Bad, and
the Ugly. 

Let's not be naive. Posting videos of a flight that "might" be violating the FAA
regulations can be a bit risky even if they are "doctored" or "disclaimed".

Consider it to be risk management. 
To Post or Not to Post, that is the question 

A decade ago, and worth reading a lot of the comments then.

I believe this was the same pilot successfully prosecuted for flying closely around a working rollercoaster at Alton Towers (from the car park).  

Pretty sure the CAA at the time stated they could not get THIS video taken down as it was stored and made available from outside the UK.