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Finding your FPV quad
#1
As we all know, if your quad comes down, it can often end up nowhere near the place you think it came down. Typically, you realise that the crash is unavoidable and you rip off your goggles to try and see where your quad will land.

Of course, by the time you rip your goggles off, the crash has already happened and your quad is nowhere to be seen. Long grass, bushes and trees all conspire to make finding your quad a worrying exercise!

If you have a receiver with RSSI telemetry back to your radio, you are in a much better position than those without as the RSSI level will help you home in on where your beloved flying machine is hiding. If you don't, or your battery gets ejected in the crash, the search gets much more difficult.

Having lost one quad myself (a very nice Armattan MRP130), I vowed that I wouldn't lose another one! My solution? One of these:

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I've added some velcro underneath the little disc and use that to attach it to another small square of velcro on the craft. The loop of fishing line ensures that the tracking disc stays with the quad even if the crash is violent enough to rip it off the velcro. Both the disc and the credit card sized tracker run off CR2032 batteries which last around six months in my experience.

Up to four tags can be bound to one tracker - one for each of the four buttons - which saves you from having to keep swapping a single tag from one craft to the next.

When the inevitable happens and you have to find your craft, using the tracker is simplicity itself. You wake up the tracker and press the button that corresponds to the tag you want to find while pointing the tracker in the assumed general direction of the tag. If the tracker manages to activate the tag, a number of the LEDs on the tracker will light up and it will being beeping. If it doesn't activate the tag, walk in the general direction and try again. It normally works first time. Once the LEDs light up, hold the tracker horizontally in your hand and turn from left to right. The tracker is very directionally sensitive and shows the directional signal strength by lighting more or less LEDs. By walking in the suggested direction, stopping and re-scanning and following the new line, you'll rapidly close in as the tracker starts to beep faster and light more LEDs the closer it gets. Once you start to get really close, you'll also hear the tag beeping as it also has a little beeper built in.

The device works on 2.4GHz which means that range is limited to 120 metres or so if you're looking for a target on the ground. It also means that you need a line of sight path between the tracker and the tag. If your quad is up a tree, the range will be considerably more.

The directionality of the tracker's antenna is good enough to allow you to home in within inches of the tag. I've tested this by hurling one of the tags, eyes closed, as far as I could into the grass at the field where I fly. Finding the tag again was a piece of cake.

As you can open up the tag to replace the battery, there's a small chance that the tag can pop open in a crash and eject the battery, but a strip of tape around the edge of the tag removes that risk.

The loc8tor has already paid for itself several times over. Long grass and bushes no longer have me worrying if I'll lose another quad! It's not utterly foolproof, given that it uses the 2.4GHz band. In the worst case, the tag could end up underneath your carbon fibre frame and be unable to hear the activation signal from the tracker. You might also forget to check that the battery in the tag is still OK before you fly. Thankfully, none of these things have happened to me and as I say, it's paid for itself several times already by helping me find a downed craft.

For really long range stuff, you're probably better off with a much lower frequency device that doesn't need line of sight and includes a GPS receiver so that it can broadcast its coordinates. For FPV quads though, the loc8tor is great insurance.
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#2
Nice tip mate!
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#3
Thanks!

It's a shame that I had to lose a quad before buying the loc8tor.
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#4
I lost my very first toy drone after a week of learning (lost signal, held last command and returned to the mothership I guess) Look for a cpl hours a day for about a week. Granted it was a toy but I remember the emotional torment Wink and luckily I learned it early too.
But an independent "key finder" type system is ingenious! I have several lost model features to use (LEDs, buzzer, RSSI) but they are all dependent on the quads battery staying put and plugged in. DVR also but that at times is only so helpful (branch unplugged me before I ever hit the ground) Wink miniquads tend to bounce around as erratic as an American football Tongue
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I really have no idea where my MRP130 went. One minute I was flying FPV above the field where I fly, the next second, the video just cut out. The worst thing is that I was just starting to turn at full throttle after blasting forward for 200 metres and was probably 15 metres up when it died. LOADS of impact force. Sad

I knew I was too far away to be able to see the quad, and I just tried hard to project the course of my collision and let go of the sticks. That American football is a great comparison! I spent hours searching. Never found it though.

That's what prompted me to get one of these locators. It's not perfect, it's not infallible, terrain can make the job much harder and the batteries that mine arrived with were half discharged already. It's a shame that the company behind the design hasn't continued to develop and evolve the product.

From the pictures I've seen, the tracker has a rather genial microstrip directional antenna. They were even harder to manufacture ten years ago than they are today, at least at commodity prices and this probably contributes to the relatively high price for these devices.

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#6
Poof. There went another $67.
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(14-Apr-2017, 01:30 AM)Vespadaddy Wrote: Poof.  There went another $67.

The day it saves you $300, you'll be really happy you spent those $67!
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#8
Theres your market niche Unseen. Put in some R&D time.... I can see it now... The Unseen Quadtracker! (In my James Earl Jones voice) "Never lose your quadcopter again" ROFL ROFL
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#9
Somehow I picture a person with a small device in their hand twisting in circles getting dizzy and then finding a strong signal and hobbling toward the right direction...

however... I agree... finding your $200-$600 worth of equipment would be well worth it... With 2 crashes that I couldn't find on the beeper alone recently I am much more sensitive to the idea and am very tempted to try this solution at least to start...

A friend at the RC park suggested that you can also remove your antenna from your goggles and it'll help you at least from a hot/cold perspective.

I am probably going to get one of these though... seems more reliable.
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Current Quads: Operational: Diatone GT2 200 In need of repair: Bumble Bee, tehStein,  Slightly modified Vortex 250 
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#10
If you guys have never seen it before you might want to check out the Drone Keeper Mini... Self contained battery and multiple ways to mount/ connect to drones. It also has motion activated (or lack of motion activated) lost alarm which is just sweet
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(14-Apr-2017, 09:50 AM)unseen Wrote: The day it saves you $300, you'll be really happy you spent those $67!

Oh, it saves you far more than just the value of the quad! - consider the time spent flying instead of searching, and this thing has paid off after just one crash..
..I wish I already got one, to be honest!
My trusty Helix 6-inch (..by now frankenstein-edition, with mixed esc's and hot-glued fairings, until I get some fresh ones and rebuild the quad from scratch - she deserves it!), which I somehow always come back to, despite numerous new builds by now (..will review, will review! Latest Tokio racer stretch w Emax 2750's, but it still has to fly properly and hang time w Helix is hard to beat..).
My god of flight seems to be Mr. Murphy, really. Helix seems to seek water sources, too! Today she once "forcedly landed" just 10 cm off that famous pond she took a bath in recently. *Gosh, it's like the only source of water in the radius of 2km, and even a tiny one, but nevermind..
However, today Helix is spending a night out. If I find her again tomorrow morning at dusk before going to work, that is. I'm planning to deploy my Mavic in order to "scan" the undulating meadow from a bird's perspective. Looking through high grass tangentially is truly frustrating.. ROFL
I'm getting one of these, period!
You were immediately in my mind, Unseen, as I ventured out to look - once more - for my Helix. Optimism definitely mislead my delay in this purchase, *bugger..
Thank you for sharing, however!
..and that a magical hand may lead your steps towards your quad, in the future.. Heart
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#12
I could have used one of these today lol
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#13
Still searching since 5 a.m. this morning.. - guys, GET ONE OF THESE even before getting a quad, *really!! Saves you sooo much time and heartbreak - I should have listened to Unseen, I should have listened.. :o/
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#14
Here is the drone Keeper Mini link
http://www.nichemall.net/index.php?route...duct_id=50
I mailed them a year ago and they replied quickly.
I think it is one of the best device (loud beeper)to find a lost quad but at that time on 4s lipo was not recommended if i am not wrong..but it has anyway a internal batt.
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(22-May-2017, 06:29 AM)campagnium Wrote: Still searching since 5 a.m. this morning.. - guys, GET ONE OF THESE even before getting a quad, *really!! Saves you sooo much time and heartbreak - I should have listened to Unseen, I should have listened.. :o/

Sad

Heartbroken for you. I know the pain of losing a cherished build.

I hope your luck changes and she turns up on a subsequent search.
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