Just bought tinyhawk 2 Race and the range I get before losing signal is around 100 feet before it failsafes.  Pretty sure it’s video going out first but not sure.  Anyone else have this quad and what kind of range or you getting?   It’s too quick to have such a low range and I am looking for ways to increase it.

I don’t have a TH2 race, but I am familiar with timyhawks..
100 feet before failsafe is “no bueno”.. I know the RXs on these boards are Not the greatest.(spi d-8) but 100 feet is BS..
First make sure your antenna isn’t damaged, you should have approx 32.8mm of exposed element showing (rx antenna not vtx).. if it’s good check the connection on the fc.. make sure nothing got stuck in it.
Do you see rx loss in the goggles or does it just drop out of the sky?..
If video is cutting out . Ur vtx needs to be higher than 25mw

(27-Sep-2021, 09:10 PM)Rob Axel Wrote: I don’t have a TH2 race, but I am familiar with timyhawks..
100 feet before failsafe is “no bueno”.. I know the RXs on these boards are Not the greatest.(spi d-8) but 100 feet is BS..
 First make sure your antenna isn’t damaged, you should have approx 32.8mm of exposed element showing (rx antenna not vtx).. if it’s good check the connection on the fc.. make sure nothing got stuck in it.  
 Do you see rx loss in the goggles or does it just drop out of the sky?..
 If video is cutting out . Ur vtx needs to be higher than 25mw

I made sure VTX is set to 200mw....at least thats what it says in the goggles and in betaflight.  Antenna appears fine.  I have 3 tinyhawks now.  Two tinyhawk 2's and the tinyhawk Race.  They all have the same range or close to it.  I get RSSI critical warning and then screen turns blank.  I should have mentioned im using the DJI goggles with the BDI digital adapter and the TBS Fusion module on it.  I put these antennas on it.    https://www.getfpv.com/lumenier-axii-2-d...-rhcp.html     Maybe im using wrong antennas or something is wrong with the TBS module?

(27-Sep-2021, 09:10 PM)Rob Axel Wrote: I don’t have a TH2 race, but I am familiar with timyhawks..
100 feet before failsafe is “no bueno”.. I know the RXs on these boards are Not the greatest.(spi d-8) but 100 feet is BS..
 First make sure your antenna isn’t damaged, you should have approx 32.8mm of exposed element showing (rx antenna not vtx).. if it’s good check the connection on the fc.. make sure nothing got stuck in it.  
 Do you see rx loss in the goggles or does it just drop out of the sky?..
 If video is cutting out . Ur vtx needs to be higher than 25mw

I just did a video test to see how far i can go.  it appears that the video stays the same whether or not i am at 25mw or 200mw.  Even though Betaflight says it is at 200mw maybe its still locked.  Thought i unlocked it but maybe i didnt do it right.

Yeah.. if your having the same issue… with multiple quads.. what is the common denominator.. your googles
But your saying it’s “failsafing”… I’m a little lost

(28-Sep-2021, 12:55 AM)Rob Axel Wrote: Yeah.. if your having the same issue… with multiple quads.. what is the common denominator.. your googles
 But your saying it’s “failsafing”… I’m a little lost

By failsafe i mean the quad literally drops out of the sky and the screen is nothing but static.  Same range and issue on all 3 quads.  So either i am not using the wrong antennas, the module is bad or these quads just cant do more than 100-150 feet without losing signal.   I have found a couple of yt videos of people adding different receiver antennas and a lollipop antenna but it would be nice to know if others with these two quads have the same range as i am getting.  Then I can go to work adding ELRS and a better VTX antenna if they are having same ranges as i am.  I am new to these cheap micro quads and used to ELRS with DJI cameras so I have no idea what to expect as "normal"

(28-Sep-2021, 01:48 AM)jeffames226 Wrote: By failsafe i mean the quad literally drops out of the sky and the screen is nothing but static.  Same range and issue on all 3 quads.  So either i am not using the wrong antennas, the module is bad or these quads just cant do more than 100-150 feet without losing signal.   I have found a couple of yt videos of people adding different receiver antennas and a lollipop antenna but it would be nice to know if others with these two quads have the same range as i am getting.  Then I can go to work adding ELRS and a better VTX antenna if they are having same ranges as i am.  I am new to these cheap micro quads and used to ELRS with DJI cameras so I have no idea what to expect as "normal"

I have a Tinyhawk 2 and have no problems getting 300 to 400 feet.

show us a video of the behavior pls

there would be many reviews you can watch the range of these "quads" reveivers.

mount your rx antennas vertical to get better signal.

(28-Sep-2021, 04:38 AM)brettbrandon Wrote: I have a Tinyhawk 2 and have no problems getting 300 to 400 feet.

Thanks Brett, at least I know now that something isnt right with my setup.

I can’t speak for the built in spi d-8 rx… but I do know from experience 32.8mm of exposed element makes a significant difference… that with the Emax d-8 rx I would easily fly my tinyhawk 1,600 feet .. I would loose video and not be able to continue..
I have noticed my Betafpv controller doesn’t have the range /power that my taranis has when flying my d8 rx quads.. but it does well with my UZ65.. I have flow that 900 feet with it..and the antenna is stock..
It’s REALY hard to say.. weak k ow what the specs on our components.. what they are SUPPOSED to do.. but QC is out the window..
Sooo “you never know what your gonna get.”
-Forest Gump-

(28-Sep-2021, 12:44 PM)Rob Axel Wrote: I can’t speak for the built in spi d-8 rx… but I do know from experience 32.8mm of exposed element makes a significant difference… that with the Emax d-8 rx I would easily fly my tinyhawk 1,600 feet .. I would loose video and not be able to continue..
 I have noticed my Betafpv controller doesn’t have the range /power that my taranis has when flying my d8 rx quads.. but it does well with my UZ65.. I have flow that 900 feet with it..and the antenna is stock..
 It’s REALY hard to say.. weak k ow what the specs on our components.. what they are SUPPOSED to do.. but QC is out the window..
Sooo “you never know what your gonna get.”
        -Forest Gump-

Hmmm...wonder if it could be my radio....its a tx16s.  But that wouldn't explain the poor video reception.  Is it possible for the VTX to show its putting out 200mw but still be locked?

Yes, what you see in the goggles is only “info”.. when BF 4.?.? Came out and the end user had to load in the vtx tables and power setting… I noticed you can set these to pretty much anything.. just because the goggles SAYS 600.. it doesn’t mean it is..
It uses “steps” and you assign a “power #” to that step.. also if the vtx isn’t unlocked.. it will show the step but the vtx power needed to “physically” be unlocked to be “active” during the “step”…
-clear as mud-??

Today I decided to test the range of the VTX WITHOUT the antennas attached to the TBS Fusion Module. To my surprise the range was the same or BETTER than WITH the antennas! How does this make any sense?

Are you using antennas with SMA connectors? The kind with the center pin? Can you show a photo of the connector?

Also does the SMA connector feel loose?

With the wrong antenna connector it will make a huge difference like day and night the minute you get even a few meters away from yourself especially if you are running just 25mW.

(01-Oct-2021, 05:38 AM)kafie1980 Wrote: Are you using antennas with SMA connectors? The kind with the center pin? Can you show a photo of the connector?

Also does the SMA connector feel loose?

With the wrong antenna connector it will make a huge difference like day and night the minute you get even a few meters away from yourself especially if you are running just 25mW.

Yeah but im thinking im using the wrong antennas.  After A LOT of research I discovered that the antennas I have or NOT for the small VTX antennas coming out of the tinyhawk that require a linear antenna.  There was only ONE yt video I found from Painless360 who did a great job of explaining antennas and which one works best with the tinyhawks.  Hard to believe there is so little info out there.   You would think that Googling "Best goggle antenna for tinyhawk 2" would turn up WAY MORE results.  Of course I know so little about how antennas work and analog and digital has spoiled me.