For those in the US who are intending to fly >250g legally after September this year, Dronetag have a special one-day deal on their new Dronetag BS Remote ID module of $49 USD which is 40% off the normal price if you place an order on 22nd May 2023. After that day the price will go up to $89 USD. Each customer can order up to 3 modules at the discounted price.

See Bruce's video at the bottom of this post for an overview / analysis of the module.

Dronetag Product Page / Web Shop: https://shop.dronetag.cz/products/41-dro...currency=1

Dronetag Wrote:Dronetag BS is the best Remote ID solution for FPV pilots, aeromodelers, and recreational pilots. BS offers affordable Broadcast / Direct Remote capability as defined by FAA and EASA. It is the smallest and lightest Remote ID solution making it easier than ever for aeromodelers and FPV pilots to comply with regulations while enjoying their favorite hobby. 

Package contains:

• 1 × Dronetag BS
  

External Bluetooth and Positioning antennas are not included, you may use your own antennas, or you can buy one of these:

• Combined Bluetooth + GNSS Positioning Antenna (U.FL)
  
• GNSS Positioning Antenna - Compact Size (U.FL)
  
• Bluetooth Antenna - Ultra Small (U.FL)
  
• Bluetooth Antenna - High Performance (U.FL)
  

The BS can be powered from up to 17V power input, or you can consider optionally using the small 3.7V Li-Po batteries (e.g., 50 mAh can run up to two hours). Batteries must have a JST SH 3-pin connector. 

The price of $49 applies only for orders placed on May 22, 2023. The official retail price will then start at $89. The number of pieces is limited to 3 pieces per customer. The delivery will be managed by the end of July 2023.

Description:

• Easy installation and compatibility with various aircraft hardware setups
  
• Real-time tracking and Remote ID compliant with the FAA rule
  
• Powered from the existing aircraft or a small LiPo battery (up to 17V input)
  
• Configuration and firmware updates via Dronetag App
  
• Can be used as GNSS input to Betaflight controller*
  
• Can be used as a telemetry module for popular RC radios*
  
• Flight information logging to flash memory for easy visualization in Dronetag App, Google Earth, or similar*
  

* Functions that will be introduced later via firmware update

Specifications:

• Remote ID types: Direct (EU) / Broadcast (US)
  
• Short-range radio: Bluetooth 2.4GHz
  
• Average current consumption: 15 mA
  
• Maximum current consumption: 50 mA
  
• Mounting: Adhesive or velcro
  
• Operating temperature: -40°C to +85°C (-40°F to 185°F)
  
• Dimensions: 17 x 14 x 5 mm (0.66 x 0.55 x 0.19 in)
  
• Weight: 1 gram (0.035 oz)
  
• Supported baud rates: Standard ones - configurable in Dronetag app
  
• Input voltage: 3.3 – 17V
  
• Input voltage regulator: Low-noise buck converter
  
• Remote ID Standards: ASD-STAN EN 4709-002 & ASTM F3411-22
  
• Certifications: Uses FCC/CE approved radio module
  
• Remote ID technology: Bluetooth 4.0 Legacy + 5.0 Long Range
  

RCModelReviews Video:

Gonna hold out for when they make the second itteration called the "BS Too"

As well as the clever "BS" name they gave it, I was also wondering if May 22 might be some kind of significant day in the US, but I can't find anything other than it being National Maritime Day which has no relevance to drones, so I guess it's just a random day which they chose to launch the product on.

Yes, this is total BS. Proper name for sure.
Glad to see this isn't an American company profiting from the BS, yet.  We wouldn't be able to figure out the RF part anyway.
You know what - put these on the 400 million guns instead.  Then we'll know where all the guns are and can really be safe

Bardwell and Blunty covered this this week, they got a kick out of the name... The manufature says that is what it cost to produce $ wise. either way... IF i gotta get one..I will get ONE that i can move quad to quad

So does this broadcast to a satellite?

Just wondering how they determine your location if you are flying 500 miles in the arse end of nowhere with no telecommunications full stop.

(12-May-2023, 07:31 PM)QuadFlyer68 Wrote: Yes, this is total BS.  Proper name for sure.
Glad to see this isn't an American company profiting from this BS, yet.  We wouldn't be able to figure out the RF part anyway.
You know what - put these on the 400 million guns instead.  Then we'll know where the guns are and can all really be safe

I couldn't agree more, but there are also pro-gun members on here so I'm not about to get into any flame war arguments on that particular topic because it will end up with some broken friendships. I'm just glad we don't have to worry about the average Joe over here potentially having a firearm in their glove compartment.

(12-May-2023, 07:53 PM)Rob Axel Wrote: Bardwell and Blunty covered this this week, they got a kick out of the name... The manufature says that is what it cost to produce $ wise.  either way... IF i gotta get one..I will get ONE that i can move quad to quad

The biggest issue as Bruce pointed out in his video is the antennas. They are big enough that they will need to be secured to the quad but that is going to make transferring the module plus the antenna between quads a complete PITA, and repeating what Bruce said, if you leave an antenna secured to each quad you will have to keep unplugging / re-plugging the U.FL connectors on the module and those only have a life of about 30-40 mating cycles, assuming you aren't unlucky enough to break the U.FL sockets off the module before the U.FL sockets wear out.

(12-May-2023, 07:58 PM)Pathfinder075 Wrote: So does this broadcast to a satellite?

Just wondering how they determine your location if you are flying 500 miles in the arse end of nowhere with no telecommunications full stop.

The Remote ID module uses GPS to get the coordinates of the UAV and it then publicly broadcasts all the required Remote ID information using long range Bluetooth. The Bluetooth data can be picked up by by any member of the public using a Bluetooth receiver / app (i.e. on a mobile device), or by any Bluetooth receiver "hubs" which have been designed to collect Remote ID data from UAVs that might be flying in the area and then send the data to a central database. Obviously if you are flying out in the middle of the desert somewhere then the probability of someone passing by (either member of the public or the authorities) and scanning for a UAV Bluetooth Remote ID signal is pretty low, and I doubt there will be any Bluetooth network hubs out in wilderness areas. So if you fly in those type of locations you are probably safe to ignore any Remote ID rules and take your chances.

It's going to be a fun game of "How Many Antennas Can I Shove Onto this Quad!?"

Update: I thought I had directly copied the image into the post, but really it was a link. My bad.
[Missing Image of Car with 50 Antennas]

If/when I get one of these, I’d probably just remove the u.fl connectors and solder a very short length of straight wire.

That’s a great idea. Really short wires would probably work best

Real real short wires. Because weight savings is important.

OMG
Brilliant!

Thanks for sharing this info. Sale price is acceptable. Weight is acceptable. Power consumption is acceptable.... Might pair well with a ViFly GPS Mate.... I have too many quads to put this on all of them, but as someone with commercial interests I need to have a few compliant quads ready to go. I hate this situation, especially the security aspects, but $50 is only a little bit more than other gps modules, and overall I can handle this for a few setups..... It's important to me to show I make efforts to comply.

Thanks again for the heads up.

Alright, so this deal isn't such a good deal. Taxes are strangely high without explanation. Shipping is $30 (doesn't make sense for 1 tiny thing). The final price of 1 unit is too high, especially for a presale that will be delivered in late July.

I am really surprised no one else has commented on this yet. Have others ordered one to try out? Is it still to early for everyone to commit?

I do assume that in months after September 2023, probably 95% of non-compliance pilots will not get caught, but let's not forget these new rules were forced upon the FAA by Congress, and on Congress by the Department of Homeland Security. Some people will get in a lot of trouble. Instead of a questioning by police, most drones may just be confiscated. If those quads don't comply upon investigation we will never see them again, and possibly have our right to fly removed. It would take another act of Congress to change course from what is coming, and that is pretty much just not going to happen. We barely have the means to comply at this time, which makes the whole thing moot and basically unprosecutable, but eventually we will... As someone that earns money flying drones it just seems like a dumb gamble to potentially make myself a martyr. I can't think of another legal change that has ever happened that will affect so many people than this. The whole situation is super BS, but seriously, what choice do we have?

Also pretty disgusted that this one day not-cheap pre-sale is currently our best option....