Posts: 930 Threads: 69 Likes Received: 339 in 253 posts Likes Given: 154 Joined: Dec 2021 Reputation: 19 Local media here in SE England are reporting lurid drone incidents again................
Headline "Gatwick easyJet flight at 'definite risk' of hitting drone less than 10ft away"
The plane was outbound west of Dover when both crew reported a near miss with a drone. They actually reported a possible hit, and the plane diverted, to find nothing, and they then decided the noise was something in the cabin being moved by cabin crew. The same article also states the miss was "less than 100ft" away under the plane, contrary to the headline 10 feet.
Described as Black, Circular, with a visible frame. and it "headed straight for them".
The Airbus A320 was climbing out heading offshore at FL160 at the time, 16,000 feet, just over 3 miles high, 4.8km
The Airprox Board have classified it as most serious and a drone incursion. ![[-]](https://intofpv.com/images/collapse.png) • Posts: 157 Threads: 7 Likes Received: 55 in 42 posts Likes Given: 33 Joined: Jan 2021 Reputation: 0 Mmm, call me a sceptic. Seriously, would anyone fly at 16,000 ft? It would be impossible to see what direction and speed you are flying at because you have no reference points. Wondering if media are beating something up again to clear us permanently from the skies. • Posts: 6,096 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,283 in 1,830 posts Likes Given: 4,727 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 its not in question anymore, planes and drones can share airspace without any problems xD
there is such an amount of informations and accuracy, such news dont receive any true attention from my side. Posts: 21,204 Threads: 583 Likes Received: 8,942 in 6,617 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 786 27-Nov-2022, 01:30 PM (This post was last modified: 27-Nov-2022, 01:35 PM by SnowLeopardFPV. Edit Reason: Added "EDIT" line. ) No-one is flying drones that high. It's just the press trying to cause more scaremongering amongst the general public to get clicks and ad revenue. 99% it was just a small helium balloon from a local show / event that a child accidentally let go of. You see them floating up into the sky all the time when you're at those events. EDIT: For anyone interested, below are links to the story. The incident reportedly happened on 5th July 2022. Posts: 2,393 Threads: 74 Likes Received: 1,342 in 1,000 posts Likes Given: 782 Joined: Apr 2022 Reputation: 41 Yeah seriously doubt this was a drone, definitely not recreational, if it was. Maybe military or professional. Don't think many drones we can buy or build can fly 3 miles high. People struggle to fly them 3 miles away at 20m from the ground, let alone the power needs to fly at 3 miles high.
They should really put High Res Dash Cams in planes and publish the videos for the public to see, so we can see these drones at 3 miles high. :/ Try Not, Do or Do Not
- Yoda
Posts: 5,857 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,778 in 2,240 posts Likes Given: 7,622 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 I know we think that drones can't fly that high, but... I have seen drone videos
where they look pretty high in the sky; some even above the clouds. Maybe not
3 miles, but pretty darn high. Plus, most of us like to get our drone back, but what
if that was not the objective. Hmmm. There are some pretty crazy people out there
and I don't put anything past anyone.
That said, I do think that the media is blowing this way out of proportion and
might even be absolutely wrong. Thing is, it still stirs up the public and doesn't
look good for us. It just fuels additional regulation. • Posts: 2,393 Threads: 74 Likes Received: 1,342 in 1,000 posts Likes Given: 782 Joined: Apr 2022 Reputation: 41 You remember the jetpack incident in I think LA last year. Some pilot said a guy was flying a jetpack in the flight path for LAX. Yet no one trace of it was ever found, not to mention only a handful of companies and people have access to that kind of tech. After about a week it all went really quiet. I bet they drug tested that pilots ass. I would seriously love to see a guy in a jetpack flying next to a plane, but I don't know of any jetpack in existence that can travel at that type of speed. Try Not, Do or Do Not
- Yoda
Posts: 60 Threads: 3 Likes Received: 62 in 40 posts Likes Given: 20 Joined: May 2022 Reputation: 2 You can look through here and see a list of sightings, there are a couple in the flight levels, but most are 2000-3000 feet. Also the descriptions are pretty vague. This is a good one. Quote:PRELIM INFO FROM FAA OPS: LOS ANGELES, CA/UAS INCIDENT/2246P/LOS ANGELES ATCT ADVISED , A321, JFK - LAX, REPORTED A BLACK UAS FROM THE 3 O'CLOCK POSITION WHILE WSW BOUND AT 15,000 FEET 7 ENE LAX. NO EVASIVE ACTION. LEO NOTIFICATION NOT REPORTED. WOC 7-3333 JG/ER First off, how do you see a black UAS at 11 at night at 15,000 feet. Here is a list of all of the incidents. https://www.faa.gov/uas/resources/public...ngs_report I mean I could get that high in a fixed wing. My reptile dragon V2 with a 4s2p 8400mah pack climbing at not quite full blast, pulling 25-30 amps, would take about 10 minutes to achieve that altitude leaving me about 40-50 percent of gas in the tank. I would be about 3 miles up and 3 miles out if I didn't climb in a circle. I can always glide down too so I could fart around up there going about 50-60mph for a minute before the 100mph dive down. In a bigger plane it would be easier. But then I think about the holes in the swiss cheese diagram that would have to line up for my 60mph plane to just happen to be at the exact altitude and in the exact flight path of an airliner travelling at 500mph, 3 or 4 miles high and the pilots paying attention enough to what is going on outside the little slit of a windscreen on those airliners to pick out my UAV with a 5-6 foot wingspan. Let alone something as small as a quad. Travelling 730 feet per second, given the fact my plane is barely visible a quarter mile away you would have less than two seconds to identify it. If you knew where to look. So you would need to be looking at exactly the right place at exactly the right time. Unless it is something truly large like professional grade or large enough to carry a human or had an obnoxious strobe on it at night, which may have happened above. I bet half of those sightings are bullshit at best and more than likely some balloon for the rest of them. Perhaps a more fitting description for these should be UFO sightings. Posts: 2,393 Threads: 74 Likes Received: 1,342 in 1,000 posts Likes Given: 782 Joined: Apr 2022 Reputation: 41 The 3 letter acronym that no pilot will ever report. From what my brothers friend said while working as a pilot for Qantas, if you report a UFO or anything like that they pulled your ticket and you had to have a medical and psych eval, so no one reports anything strange. Don't know if the same holds true for other airlines. But I do agree on there being a lot of sightings which probably never happened. it will be like the BOFH calendar. Everyday there's a buzzword that you must insert into a phone conversation, just to see if people are stupid enough to believe it.  Try Not, Do or Do Not
- Yoda
Posts: 5,857 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,778 in 2,240 posts Likes Given: 7,622 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 Yeah, the pilots actaully can't see much when at altitude and absolutely nothing
below their line of sight unless their nose is up against the window. On one flight,
the pilot left the cockpit open to the passengers and we could see what he sees
which is basically nothing. I have the greatest respect for those pilots.
Yes, it absolutely amazed me. You could paint the windows black and those guys
can still fly and land the plane. I think the windows are there to make the passengers
feel good...like believing that it makes a difference in flying the plane. • |
