Anybody flying their GEPRC Cinebot30 indoors? I ordered one and I'd appreciate some tips or advice on doing it. I fly smooth and casual so I'm hoping this can get me thru the winter season in Wisconsin. Can only do the simulator for so long.

Flying a 3" 4-6S Cinewhoop indoors is definitely ballsy. Tips. Angle mode and max angle of 5-10 degrees, motor limit of 10% and work upwards until you have something that can fly, but doesn't punch a hole through your ceiling and fly into outer space.

Oh and consider buying a 65mm or 75mm Tinywhoop, which is a 1S quad entirely designed to fly indoors. Not that I'm saying you can't fly a 4S or 6S Cinewhoop in a house, it's just not designed for that and it's going to be really hard to control and probably destroy your house (and itself) while you fly it.

I recently finished building a Cinebot 30, intended for outdoors cinematic stuff or large indoor venues.
I have not yet been able to fly it outdoors due to weather and personal circumstances and just flew it indoors a little for base tuning and making sure it all works. Also to check different prop and battery configurations.
I would not however recommend actualy flying it indoors. You can (and i can and do i acro mode) with good throttle control and a serious low motor output limit , but it will cause serious damage to your stuff (and itself eventualy) if you start (and you will) crashing it around.
Stick with small light little micros for indoors and you will have way more fun , while seriously honing your skills you can later use on the cinebot outside. As you are verticaly limited indoors one of the best things i learned is throttle control.
But also you will become a master in stopping and turning as that is almost all you do when you fly in small spaces ?

(03-Jan-2023, 05:50 AM)Pathfinder075 Wrote: Flying a 3" 4-6S Cinewhoop indoors is definitely ballsy.  Tips. Angle mode and max angle of 5-10 degrees, motor limit of 10% and work upwards until you have something that can fly, but doesn't punch a hole through your ceiling and fly into outer space.

Oh and consider buying a 65mm or 75mm Tinywhoop, which is a 1S quad entirely designed to fly indoors.  Not that I'm saying you can't fly a 4S or 6S Cinewhoop in a house, it's just not designed for that and it's going to be really hard to control and probably destroy your house (and itself) while you fly it.

OK, so I made a copy of my model in the radio and configured a button to limit the sticks, one of those 6 along the front of the TX16s. Maybe I'll configure more than one button to change the limits, 50%, 60%, etc. But I'll play with that after it arrives on Saturday.

How much difference will there be running 4s on a 6s quad?

Very little, it will still be too powerful.

I mean try it by all means, but wear a helmet of some sort (motorcycle ideally) and be ready to disarm it if rockets towards your ceiling or your body, because every 4-6S quad I've ever seen had enough weight to easily go through a ceiling, kill a person if it hit them in the head and was not suited to anything besides maybe a hover test inside. The problem is the size and weight.

I have run a couple of 5 inch 6S quads on 4S, and as Pathfinder says, there's little difference, certainly not enough to make it practical to use.

You have not said whether this indoor flying will be home, sports hall or where. It matters, please advise!

I fly indoors several times every week, both in my home, sports hall, and school refectory with tables cleared (where I run a twice weekly club).

After several years experience, there's a gulf between what you CAN do and what is sensible and FUN to do.

I have flown a 700 Heli and a 6" quad in a sports hall, I have flown a 250 Heli and a 3" quad in my home. It can be done, but its NOT a good idea, nor fun. They are simply too powerful AND TOO BULKY for the space.

Indoors I consider ducts essential, not just the minimal ring of some cine whoops now which simply fails to stop furnishing damage. In my home I tend to run 65mm Mobula 6's, as even a 75 is getting too unwieldy in the spaces I have. Sports Hall practical max is 85mm, better 75mm.

I have actually built a custom 75 but with 65 motors, and that is PERFECT for sports hall freestyle and home cruising. Light, impact safe, and great fun.

(05-Jan-2023, 11:56 PM)mblaide Wrote: OK, so I made a copy of my model in the radio and configured a button to limit the sticks, one of those 6 along the front of the TX16s. Maybe I'll configure more than one button to change the limits, 50%, 60%, etc. But I'll play with that after it arrives on Saturday.

Its not enough to limit the sticks (throttle). This still does not take care of the flight controller to use full power when it feels the need to (crazy corrective moves when you crash or bump into something etc).
So its a must to apply a motor output limit (its in percentage so start with 50% and take it from there) in the PID tab if you want to fly this much power indoors (eg living rooms type etc).
Send us the pics of your destroyed furnature when you are done ;-)

(06-Jan-2023, 11:47 AM)fpvapnea Wrote: Send us the pics of your destroyed furnature when you are done ;-)

A flight video would be better along with the pics, so we can add them to the Q&A thread, in the "Why you don't fly 6S drones in a house" section.

Hi Mblaide,

I wouldn't even consider trying to fly that thing with FPV inside a house. 
LOS hover only...maybe?? I have a 2S-3S 2 inch whoop that I have tried 
to fly in the house which is almost laughable. Can it be done, well yes, 
but why; there simply isn't enough space to do more than hover.

Yeah, I suppose you try all that "limiting" stuff, but you will still only be
hovering around. The thing is large enough that if you try to move and crash; 
and you will, there is good chance something in the house will get broken. 
If you have a wife, then that kind of thing might get you into serious trouble.
By the way, you really won't learn how to fly it because when you go outside 
and unleash all the limits, it will be a totally different animal.

The better suggestion is the get a 65mm or 75mm (frame size) tiny whoop
for inside the house. At least you will be able to actually fly...a little. AND,
when you crash, you might Not break anything, hurt to dog, or injure your wife.
Yep, that is never good. 

Just sayin' 

There is a guy on rcgroups who flies 5” acro in his apartment…

So, it can be done.

I mean, I wouldn’t. It’d take me days to repair all of the drywall it would take out.

I’d much rather put on multiple layers of clothing, some of those hand warmers, put some conformal coating on my quad and go fly in the snow, as I’ve done in the past and will do in the near future as soon as it snows again.

We don’t get Wisconsin cold though, so maybe get one of those electric usb powered warming vests, gloves, and socks.

Yeah, that is where I am at as well. Even if I don't hit anything, it seems like 
it takes about a second and I am looking at a wall. Spin around, another second, 
and I am at the wall again. I get dizzy going around in circles - AND - that is with 
a 2 inch on 2S. I just don't think that I really get anything out of it.