Posts: 5,857 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,778 in 2,240 posts Likes Given: 7,617 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 24-Mar-2024, 03:39 PM (This post was last modified: 24-Mar-2024, 03:41 PM by iFly4rotors.) HELP ! Well, yesterday (2023-03-23), I downloaded and installed Betaflight Configurator 10.9.0. No problem, Right? Well, NO. The display is huge. REALLY HUGE. The OSD screen is so large that it does NOT fit, no matter how much I expand that window. Every screen, every tab, everything is huge. Ok, so I know how to adjust the MS-Windows desktop so here we go. I made some changes, NOPE, didn't help. Made more changes, NOPE, didn't help. So, today, I decided to download and install version 10.10.3 RC. This is the absolute newest version out there. Got it installed, same thing. The stuff in the Betaflight window is HUGE. Just like yesterday. I have looked around in the software and can find NO method or settings for the Configuator itself. What no way to change the size or the display or anything else. OR, maybe I am just missing something. I really hate to have to roll back to say, 10.8.0 or whatever, but I am seriously considering it. MY issue here, is what if I get an FC that has a new(er) version of Betaflight? Will I then need to move up to 10.9.0 or higher? Then WHAT? HELP. • Posts: 1,733 Threads: 60 Likes Received: 1,008 in 730 posts Likes Given: 96 Joined: Jan 2023 Reputation: 52 If you are on Win10/11, the UI should scale with you desktop settings. What resolution/scaling have you selected? • Posts: 5,857 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,778 in 2,240 posts Likes Given: 7,617 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 (24-Mar-2024, 04:09 PM)mstc Wrote: If you are on Win10/11, the UI should scale with you desktop settings. What resolution/scaling have you selected? Hi Mstc, Yeah, tried that already. My "scale" is at 100 percent which is the smallest that it will go. Resolution is 1980 x 1080, again as heigh (smallest) that it will go. By the way, changes here do NOT seem to change the size of the Betaflight Configurator window nor its contents. Later, iFly • Posts: 1,733 Threads: 60 Likes Received: 1,008 in 730 posts Likes Given: 96 Joined: Jan 2023 Reputation: 52 That is odd, the UI scales accordingly on both my Win10 and Win 11 machines with those settings. Maybe it has to do with how you installed it or you have some special preference set on your user? You already tried reinstallling? You can also try this setting in the properties to see if it does anything for you. • Posts: 5,857 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,778 in 2,240 posts Likes Given: 7,617 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 (24-Mar-2024, 07:31 PM)mstc Wrote: That is odd, the UI scales accordingly on both my Win10 and Win 11 machines with those settings. Maybe it has to do with how you installed it or you have some special preference set on your user? You already tried reinstallling? You can also try this setting in the properties to see if it does anything for you. Hi Mstc, Nope. Didn't do a thing. I guess that I could try uninstalling and then reinstalling. Yeah, I have a long standing relationship with Windows and have not specifically seen this. However, I do know that the developer can lock in the display settings for the app. I am hoping that they didn't do this. I will uninstall, reinstall, and then get back to you. Thanks Later, iFly • Posts: 180 Threads: 18 Likes Received: 48 in 45 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Apr 2023 Reputation: 3 It could be an artifact of the graphics driver on the computer. Try changing the version of the driver, or updating it to the latest version. • Posts: 5,857 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,778 in 2,240 posts Likes Given: 7,617 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 25-Mar-2024, 11:23 AM (This post was last modified: 25-Mar-2024, 01:37 PM by iFly4rotors.) The computer is less than a year old. It has a newer driver on it. I am not changing the video driver. All of the software on the computer works fine and has no issues. Betaflight Configurator is the ONLY software that does NOT change the size. I have another thing to try and that is to install it on my older computer. Or maybe just roll back to lower version of Betaflight Configurator and see what happens. • Posts: 5,857 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,778 in 2,240 posts Likes Given: 7,617 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 25-Mar-2024, 12:14 PM (This post was last modified: 25-Mar-2024, 01:32 PM by iFly4rotors.) Ok, I have just installed Betaflight Configurator 10.8.0. Everything looks good. Just as it has always looked in the past. The OSD screen is smaller and much more usable. Same computer, just a different version of the software. The issue is clearly something that the devs have done. Starting with version 10.9.0, they have changed the sizing of the display panel and locked it in. [Edit] So, here is where I am at. Having tried versions 10.8.0 through 10.10.0-RC3 on two different computers and made numerous adjustments on both machines. Betaflight had consistent display depending on version on both machines. Regarding the Windows adjustments, in changing the settings, I could make the information in the Betaflight Window larger, but not smaller. This worked the same on both machines. Just for reference, the newer computer has a high-end Nvidia graphics adapter and the other machine does not. As I worked with this, I noticed that the columns where you select the ODS elements have been move to a location below the visual OSD panel. Originally, these columns were on either side of the OSD panel. Obviously, I can't tell what the devs have set, but, it is clearly a development decision as to how they have set the properties on that screen element that shows the OSD information. My solution is to run 10.8.0 on one computer and 10.9.0 on the newer computer. I will work to get used to the newer, larger, format, but retain the older version when I want a decent print screen of the OSD panel. • Posts: 5,857 Threads: 47 Likes Received: 2,778 in 2,240 posts Likes Given: 7,617 Joined: Jul 2019 Reputation: 97 Ok, I have been going back and forth through the Betaflight Configurator versions 10.8.0 through 10.10.0 RC3. Both 10.8.0 and 10.9.0 appear to be stable with the newer version having the "new" OSD tab layout and larger canvas text. As I work through this, I notice that the 10.10.0 RC versions do not appear to be stable in that they do not always connect to Betaflight on the quad and I am using several to test with. However, the 10.8 and 10.9 versions would always connect. I went back and forth several times on two different computers with the same results. In short, the 10.10.0 versions seemed to be finicky about connecting to Betaflight on the quads. Sometimes Yes, sometimes No. On the other hand the 10.8 and 10.9 versions never failed to connect. By the way, NO changes were made to the computer configuration nor drivers. So, logically, this is clearly inside the Betaflight Configurator versions 10.10.0 which, of course have not been through final testing and not yet officially released. After all of this testing, I now have 10.8.0 on the older computer and 10.9.0 on the newer laptop. So far, I have not had any connection issues. • Posts: 21,189 Threads: 582 Likes Received: 8,930 in 6,606 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 786 31-Mar-2024, 11:54 PM (This post was last modified: 02-Apr-2024, 02:30 PM by SnowLeopardFPV. Edit Reason: Corrected formatting. ) You can run two versions of Betaflight Configurator on the same computer, so you don't need to make use of two different computers for 10.8.0 and 10.9.0 the versions. When you install a new version of Betaflight Configurator using the setup installer it will overwrite the previously installed version, so if you do it that way you can't run two different versions on the same machine. The trick is to use the portable versions Betaflight Configurator. Download the ZIP file which has "portable" in the name and manually unzip the contents to a "version" folder on your computer. Each portable version will then reside in it's own subfolder and you just need to click on the "betaflight-configurator.exe" in that folder to run the program. To make things easier you can additionally create desktop shortcuts for the "betaflight-configurator.exe" file in each versioned subfolder so you can then quicky run any version directly from the desktop shortcut icons. Example folder structure: Code: C Drive | |---Betaflight Configurator | |---10.8.0 | |---10.9.0 | |---10.10.0
Posts: 2,381 Threads: 74 Likes Received: 1,338 in 998 posts Likes Given: 781 Joined: Apr 2022 Reputation: 41 That is kinda how I do it, except i just have separate directories for each version and rename the executable to represent the exact version, but I tend to just run the old version. Don't have anything that 100% needs 4.4 so pointless to use the later configurators. Wish you could turn the annoying reminders off though. Try Not, Do or Do Not - Yoda |