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Betaflight Configurator - HELP
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HELP !

Well, yesterday (2023-03-23), I downloaded and installed Betaflight Configurator 
10.9.0. No problem, Right? Well, NO. The display is huge. REALLY HUGE. The OSD
screen is so large that it does NOT fit, no matter how much I expand that window. 
Every screen, every tab, everything is huge. 

Ok, so I know how to adjust the MS-Windows desktop so here we go. I made 
some changes, NOPE, didn't help. Made more changes, NOPE, didn't help. 

So, today, I decided to download and install version 10.10.3 RC. This is the
absolute newest version out there. Got it installed, same thing. The stuff in
the Betaflight window is HUGE. Just like yesterday. I have looked around in 
the software and can find NO method or settings for the Configuator itself.
What no way to change the size or the display or anything else. OR, maybe
I am just missing something. 

I really hate to have to roll back to say, 10.8.0 or whatever, but I am seriously
considering it. MY issue here, is what if I get an FC that has a new(er) version
of Betaflight? Will I then need to move up to 10.9.0 or higher? Then WHAT?

HELP. 
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If you are on Win10/11, the UI should scale with you desktop settings. What resolution/scaling have you selected?

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(24-Mar-2024, 04:09 PM)mstc Wrote: If you are on Win10/11, the UI should scale with you desktop settings. What resolution/scaling have you selected?

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Hi Mstc,


Yeah, tried that already. My "scale" is at 100 percent which is the smallest that it will go.
Resolution is 1980 x 1080, again as heigh (smallest) that it will go. By the way, changes 
here do NOT seem to change the size of the Betaflight Configurator window nor its contents.

Later, iFly   High Five
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#4
That is odd, the UI scales accordingly on both my Win10 and Win 11 machines with those settings.
Maybe it has to do with how you installed it or you have some special preference set on your user? You already tried reinstallling? You can also try this setting in the properties to see if it does anything for you.

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(24-Mar-2024, 07:31 PM)mstc Wrote: That is odd, the UI scales accordingly on both my Win10 and Win 11 machines with those settings.
Maybe it has to do with how you installed it or you have some special preference set on your user? You already tried reinstallling? You can also try this setting in the properties to see if it does anything for you.

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Hi Mstc,


Nope. Didn't do a thing. I guess that I could try uninstalling and then reinstalling.

Yeah, I have a long standing relationship with Windows and have not specifically seen this.
However, I do know that the developer can lock in the display settings for the app. I am 
hoping that they didn't do this.

I will uninstall, reinstall, and then get back to you.


Thanks

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#6
It could be an artifact of the graphics driver on the computer. Try changing the version of the driver, or updating it to the latest version.
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#7
The computer is less than a year old. It has a newer driver on it. 
I am not changing the video driver. All of the software on the computer 
works fine and has no issues. Betaflight Configurator is the ONLY
software that does NOT change the size. 

I have another thing to try and that is to install it on my older computer. 

Or maybe just roll back to lower version of Betaflight Configurator 
and see what happens.
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#8
Ok, I have just installed Betaflight Configurator 10.8.0.

Everything looks good. Just as it has always looked in the past. The OSD screen is smaller
and much more usable.  Same computer, just a different version of the software.

The issue is clearly something that the devs have done. Starting with version 10.9.0,
they have changed the sizing of the display panel and locked it in. 

[Edit]

So, here is where I am at. Having tried versions 10.8.0 through 10.10.0-RC3 on two
different computers and made numerous adjustments on both machines. Betaflight
had consistent display depending on version on both machines. 

Regarding the Windows adjustments, in changing the settings, I could make the 
information in the Betaflight Window larger, but not smaller. This worked the same
on both machines. Just for reference, the newer computer has a high-end Nvidia 
graphics adapter and the other machine does not. 

As I worked with this, I noticed that the columns where you select the ODS elements
have been move to a location below the visual OSD panel. Originally, these columns 
were on either side of the OSD panel. Obviously, I can't tell what the devs have set,
but, it is clearly a development decision as to how they have set the properties on 
that screen element that shows the OSD information.  

My solution is to run 10.8.0 on one computer and 10.9.0 on the newer computer.
I will work to get used to the newer, larger, format, but retain the older version
when I want a decent print screen of the OSD panel. 
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#9
Ok, I have been going back and forth through the Betaflight Configurator
versions 10.8.0 through 10.10.0 RC3.

Both 10.8.0 and 10.9.0 appear to be stable with the newer version having
the "new" OSD tab layout and larger canvas text. 

As I work through this, I notice that the 10.10.0 RC versions do not appear
to be stable in that they do not always connect to Betaflight on the quad and
I am using several to test with. However, the 10.8 and 10.9 versions would 
always connect. I went back and forth several times on two different computers 
with the same results. In short, the 10.10.0 versions seemed to be finicky about
connecting to Betaflight on the quads. Sometimes Yes, sometimes No. On the
other hand the 10.8 and 10.9 versions never failed to connect. By the way,
NO changes were made to the computer configuration nor drivers. So, logically,
this is clearly inside the Betaflight Configurator versions 10.10.0 which, of course
have not been through final testing and not yet officially released. After all of 
this testing, I now have 10.8.0 on the older computer and 10.9.0 on the newer
laptop. So far, I have not had any connection issues. 
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#10
You can run two versions of Betaflight Configurator on the same computer, so you don't need to make use of two different computers for 10.8.0 and 10.9.0 the versions.

When you install a new version of Betaflight Configurator using the setup installer it will overwrite the previously installed version, so if you do it that way you can't run two different versions on the same machine. The trick is to use the portable versions Betaflight Configurator. Download the ZIP file which has "portable" in the name and manually unzip the contents to a "version" folder on your computer. Each portable version will then reside in it's own subfolder and you just need to click on the "betaflight-configurator.exe" in that folder to run the program. To make things easier you can additionally create desktop shortcuts for the "betaflight-configurator.exe" file in each versioned subfolder so you can then quicky run any version directly from the desktop shortcut icons.

Example folder structure:

Code:
C Drive
   |
   |---Betaflight Configurator
          |
          |---10.8.0
          |
          |---10.9.0
          |
          |---10.10.0
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That is kinda how I do it, except i just have separate directories for each version and rename the executable to represent the exact version, but I tend to just run the old version. Don't have anything that 100% needs 4.4 so pointless to use the later configurators. Wish you could turn the annoying reminders off though. Wink
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