Perhaps I should practice more, an understatement ;-)

You're too self critical, twas OK, but I do have a question.............



Does it turn right?    

He got the NASCAR version..

(30-Dec-2022, 09:38 PM)BadRaven Wrote: You're too self critical, twas OK, but I do have a question.............



Does it turn right?    

Yes it does, but apparently this video shows I have a preference  for left turns

Got to start somewhere right? That row of trees will be nice for some powerloops which look like you've got the hang of.

The part where you brought it in near yourself and practiced some rolls is something I used to do all the time, still do for that matter.

Quote:Perhaps I should practice more, an understatement ;-)

Everyone should practice more!

The trick is not to be too content with where you are, but also give yourself some credit for how far you've come ;-)

Edit: and well done!

Looks fine. Freestyle is exactly that. You are free to do it how you want. Don't judge yourself against others, for example, Le Drib or Mr Steele. They have both been flying for many years and they only fly freestyle/acro and they fly a lot. To get that good in a small amount of time requires serious commitment.

When i first flew, my freestyle attempts were dives and rolls. it's only recently i have started to make any real progress. Get a sim and rip in it for 20 mins a day. Do any trick you want in the sim as many times as possible, then when you do it for real you will find it much easier and have more confidence doing it. Powerloop to cobra to matty is my current sim trick. i can powerloop, the cobra flick is just timing and the matty is momentum and precise throttle control (because you exit the cobra flick thing without any). I've seen only a small number of pilots do it. I would never attempt it for real as I would be replacing quads quite often. But in a month I will probably be fine to do it in sim and then i can take it out into the real world to try. But even then it's a matter of breaking it down into smaller steps and when you feel confident putting them together.

Just keep chipping away at it. Everytime you go out (or go in sim) try and learn something new or do something slightly out of your comfort zone.

(31-Dec-2022, 07:20 AM)BadRaven Wrote:  

A story from a LONG while ago.

In the northern hemisphere and with conventional quite high torque low revving i.c. model engine powered fixed wing, left turns are easier than right, as the natural tendency is to resist and flatten the turn, not wind into it as with right. (This started when I was learning in 1972!)

Then along came affordable RC Helicopters. Here the hover was affected by the person's "onboard gyro". In my case I found it easier to hover with the nose 90 left than right. Slow yaw turns to nose in were in my case much harder clockwise than anti-clockwise.

MY main two flying buddies were however the opposite, finding right 90 much easier. It took one six months of regular flying to correct that tendency as he'd burned into his muscle memory only the one way.


The trick is to continually assess and determine for every move which direction you are favouring, and then concentrate on the other.  Which roll direction do you favour? Go the other way, etc.

I have mentioned elsewhere I was a Race Instructor in Windsurfing. Same thing there, trainee race sailors were always inherently much more confident turning one way than the other, and in some cases, very talented though they were, it took MONTHS of hard work to overcome that limitation and become the real deal.

Its why a more formalised practise process is SO important, not only almost aimlessly flying around letting the model determine your path or just doing what you are comfortable with.

Try it, and any lasting "feeble" will disappear with a little planned effort.

I can relate, I should pay more attention and stuff the other way around. Thanks for the feedback.

Thanks for the replies fellow quad pilots ;-) The gist of the replies is that I don't need to be too harsh on myself irt capabilities, I should put in more hours and that right turns are a thing too ;-)

And then some crashes:

When you learn to power loop, start with early exits.

Also a trick I saw on a different video. In LoS, blip your throttle for say a second and count how many secs it takes for the quad to come back down. So do a short blip, a full sec, maybe 2 secs and if you have a decent ESC that will take it, possibly 3 secs. Then count, so you now know basically how long you have when you reach the apex of the power loop before hitting the ground. The other thing is to not cut the throttle completely, keep it variable so lower it as you loop and apply it more as you head towards the ground so by the time you are 5-10m from the ground you have 10-20% throttle on and can smoothly pull back up and away from the ground. This way you get a super smooth loop without the need to blip the throttle at the end, to stop you hitting the ground.

"Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast." is a good quote to remember when practising.

Take a couple of deep breaths before you do your trick, visualise what you intend to do before you do it, then execute it. if it fails, pull out, fly away, breathe, line up, try again. If you feel really amped up or pissed off, land, decompress, try again when ready.

One other thing, from your drone disarm video, if you have the height you can rearm, but you might want the drone in angle mode when you do since it will self right itself if upside down. Meaning all you need to do is blip throttle to arrest the fall and depending on where you were when it happened, 5 mins to change your underwear.

(31-Dec-2022, 03:45 PM)Pathfinder075 Wrote: When you learn to power loop, start with early exits.

Also a trick I saw on a different video. In LoS, blip your throttle for say a second and count how many secs it takes for the quad to come back down. So do a short blip, a full sec, maybe 2 secs and if you have a decent ESC that will take it, possibly 3 secs. Then count, so you now know basically how long you have when you reach the apex of the power loop before hitting the ground. The other thing is to not cut the throttle completely, keep it variable so lower it as you loop and apply it more as you head towards the ground so by the time you are 5-10m from the ground you have 10-20% throttle on and can smoothly pull back up and away from the ground. This way you get a super smooth loop without the need to blip the throttle at the end, to stop you hitting the ground.

If the weather gets any better te coming days I will give this a try, thanks for the tips. The "accidental disarm" video was shot during summer when I was a noob ;-) This has never happened again after that.

It's good man feel like am watching myself on that video! ? Natural progression,flying in winter also helps as by the summer you will smashing Split S etc.
Where u looks like the UK am in Lancashire weather looks ruff for the next week rain, rain, and more rain

It's not brilliant on this side of the Pennines either.

Was supposed to be hitting Halifax Bando tomorrow, but it's been called off.