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Heck, before FPV was reliable all I flew was line of sight.

This was with a single main rotor helicopter:



My first aerial video with my first multicopter. A Gaui 330X. Only line of sight:


Ok here are line of sight acro:



Line of sight night flying:


A crash video:


Still no FPV:


There were no such thing as bind and fly yet. So I had to cut parts for every one of my multicopters. Yes, I do have my own CNC router.

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(23-Apr-2024, 02:30 PM)Pathfinder075 Wrote: Can I recommend mstc for Quad Builder? He has so many builds it's almost a travesty that he doesn't have the badge. Tongue

I have seen mstc's collection in person and it is flooring. He also has a steel-trap memory for the components on each of his (100s?) of quads. Maybe 100s is an exaggeration, but I'm not sure... He deserves this badge. He also needs the tree-hugger badge. I climbed a tall tree in his backyard to get his quad out after it sat there for 6ish months, so I can vouch for that one Smile
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(23-Apr-2024, 10:11 PM)FPVme Wrote: I have seen mstc's collection in person and it is flooring.  He also has a steel-trap memory for the components on each of his (100s?) of quads.  Maybe 100s is an exaggeration, but I'm not sure...  He deserves this badge.  He also needs the tree-hugger badge.  I climbed a tall tree in his backyard to get his quad out after it sat there for 6ish months, so I can vouch for that one Smile

He helped me a lot in getting my machines flying.
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Hi SeismicCWave,

The videos are super.  Those are some quite impressive multi-copters.  I am blown away.

Got my vote.

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(23-Apr-2024, 10:11 PM)FPVme Wrote: I have seen mstc's collection in person and it is flooring.  He also has a steel-trap memory for the components on each of his (100s?) of quads.  Maybe 100s is an exaggeration, but I'm not sure...  He deserves this badge.  He also needs the tree-hugger badge.  I climbed a tall tree in his backyard to get his quad out after it sat there for 6ish months, so I can vouch for that one Smile

You should of told me you were going to climb the tree so I could have captured that on video, that was a really amazing feat and if there was a tree climber badge... (or you could have just asked to borrow my Gopro and had me stay inside Big Grin).

100s probably not, but I definitely have too many and need therapy for my drone addiction... but its good to know I'm not the only one Smile
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(23-Apr-2024, 08:53 PM)SeismicCWave Wrote: Yes, I do have my own CNC router.

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Very envious. Wink
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(02-May-2024, 12:31 AM)Pathfinder075 Wrote: Very envious. Wink

I have found that there are so many ready made frame and parts on the market readily available and so inexpensive I hardly use my router. The issue is that carbon fiber plates are not cheap and having to buy a sheet to cut one frame can be a lot more expensive than buying a frame online.

I did use the router a lot before when there were not much available online and I had to cut my own frame and parts.
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I have a certain frame that I like but is no longer manufactured. if I could 3D scan that frame in and then cut one from a sheet of CF, that would be a very good day. But the ability to make my own frames would be sweet.

I'm on the hunt for a desktop CNC Router, probably this Autumn. More than likely a generic 3040 model that I can learn on. Only requirement is it can mill CF. Then i can start making the frames I want and can't find. Stuff like 2" and 2.5" with 12x12 motor mounts, which are no longer available anywhere (that i've seen), but used to be. Also Darwin sell some obscure 1504 motors with a 10x10 mount. If you can mill your own frames, then weird mounting sizes become irrelevant. The cost of the sheets is a bit, but if I was cutting one frame out, I would probably set the process up to actually cut a load of frames out so waste is minimised. A supply of small 75mm and 65mm CF frames for whoops, like the Fractal stuff, or generic 2" toothpick frames. For you it's probably not so much a thing, but for me I destroy frames a lot when i'm flying. If i had ten spares in my van, it makes life a bit easier.

But yes to having one. Smile
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(02-May-2024, 08:14 PM)Pathfinder075 Wrote: I have a certain frame that I like but is no longer manufactured.  if I could 3D scan that frame in and then cut one from a sheet of CF, that would be a very good day.  But the ability to make my own frames would be sweet.  

I'm on the hunt for a desktop CNC Router, probably this Autumn.  More than likely a generic 3040 model that I can learn on.  Only requirement is it can mill CF.  Then i can start making the frames I want and can't find.  Stuff like 2" and 2.5" with 12x12 motor mounts, which are no longer available anywhere (that i've seen), but used to be.  Also Darwin sell some obscure 1504 motors with a 10x10 mount.  If you can mill your own frames, then weird mounting sizes become irrelevant.  The cost of the sheets is a bit, but if I was cutting one frame out, I would probably set the process up to actually cut a load of frames out so waste is minimised.  A supply of small 75mm and 65mm CF frames for whoops, like the Fractal stuff, or generic 2" toothpick frames.  For you it's probably not so much a thing, but for me I destroy frames a lot when i'm flying.  If i had ten spares in my van, it makes life a bit easier.

But yes to having one.  Smile

There are a lot of different CNC router on the market. The one I bought is no longer made. It has a 12" X 18" workable size. That was good for the size of multi copter I used to make. Nowadays the multicopters have gotten a lot smaller so a 12" X 12" or even small router would be sufficient. 

Cutting carbon is not much different than cutting fiberglass or wood. It is just a matter of having the proper cutting bit. The issue is the damn dust. I did make a vacuum attachment for mine. Even with that I also use another hand held vacuum if the cut gets too messy. 

A friend that used to cut a lot of parts had his router fully enclosed. He went through a lot more router motor than I did. I think the dust got to the bearings.

Yes, being able to cut a custom frame is very convenient. I used to buy 12" X 12" G10 and carbon plates by the dozens. They get fairly expensive.
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After watching a few videos it seems cutting while the CF sheet is submerged is a viable option. Eliminates the dust. If not it's vacuum systems, but I did wonder if you could go hybrid and pull the dust through a water trap to strip it out.
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(02-May-2024, 11:24 PM)Pathfinder075 Wrote: After watching a few videos it seems cutting while the CF sheet is submerged is a viable option.  Eliminates the dust.  If not it's vacuum systems, but I did wonder if you could go hybrid and pull the dust through a water trap to strip it out.

Goodness no. Adding water will make one heck of a mess. Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

If the vacuum sucks it up then it is fine. The issue is that the router bit have a tendency to sling the dust outside of the skirt. Making the skirt is a challenge. It has to be soft enough so the cutting head can move up and down. Too soft and the vacuum suction will pull the skirt up too much.
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