Has anyone ever seen a 1S AIO whoop FC with onboard VTX and blackbox?  Can be 25mw only VTX and 8MB only blackbox that is fine.  I've found some with VTX but no blackbox or blackbox but no VTX.  Just never with both at 1S power.  I have at 2S but not at 1S.  Just throwing this out there in case this unicorn does exist.  I've emailed all the Shenzen usual suspects and the "great idea!" response is pretty much all I get.

No, I've never seen one. You always have the option of getting an installing an Airbot OpenLager module (it connects to a spare UART). Obviously that will add a few grams of extra weight, but I'm not sure if you have any other option if you want blackbox logs.

https://store.myairbot.com/openlager.html

why do you like the vtx onboard?
personal i like the heating vtx allways as single component

Purely cos of weight savings. Now if there's such thing as an FC and separate VTX that weighs about as much, then I'd much prefer that as well.

Snow, I've got an Openlogger. I only found out after the fact that they can't log past 500Hz which is worthless for tuning. Heck, I've seen awful tracing at 1kHz. If I'm stuck with only 8MB, I've found 1.5kHz will get me the absolute bare minimum tuning runs I need but nothing more. Anyway, JB talks about the logger limitation in his Blackbox 101 video.

Hmmm ... I did find a 1S AIO with blackbox but no VTX. I may give this a shot. It weigh down my "Robula7 4K" but I'm getting 3.5 min off a 550mAh 1S and I'm ok giving up 30 seconds of flight ... hopefully it's not much more than that though.

Don't confuse OpenLogger with OpenLager. They are two different products. The former is the old (cheap) version which has slow logging. The newer Airbot OpenLager can log at up to 19.2MHz using DMA.

Oh shoot I had no idea! Thanks Snow I will look into this.

Thanks again for the feedback guys. Taking a closer look at the BetaFPV 1S AIO I'm using, it only has 1 open UART being used by the Crossfire nano so can't do the logger. But I'm keeping that OpenLager bookmarked as that could have come in handy when I was building my latest 4 inch micro LR using that CLRacing AIO that didn't have a blackbox. That thing has like 5 UARTs. I ended up swapping it out with a Flywoo Goku AIO that does have a blackbox.

I'm going to do the same thing with the Robula7 4K. But it won't be 1S anymore unfortunately. I'm going with a JHEMCU SH50A F411 2-3S AIO with 8MB of blackbox. For the VTX, I'm going with an Eachione Nano VTX (v1 without the mic to save weight). That tiny thing evidently pushes 400mw lol wow.

But I am hesitant to go with an XT30 2S not so much to save weight but because I can charge PH2.0 with a USB charger and the point of this whole thing is mobility convenience (i.e., not have to carry around a full charger). Unfortunately, the largest PH2.0 2S I can find is only 300mAh. So I'm thinking of series'ing 2 of my 550mAh 1S. That negates the XT30 weight savings but I'll still be using 1S lipos which I can charge with a USB charger.

Anyway that's the plan lol.


[edit] Whew!! Turns out the Xing 0802 2200kv's I am using are 1-2S rated. Good save lol.

i use the namelessrc nano400 vtx, pretty simular to the eachine nano. its the lightes vtx on the market at 0,7g. it works better as a heater than as vtx xD it works but it needs pit mode on disarm and overheats very easy. its on my 17g whoop, the focus there is weight, anyway i wouldnt buy it again, the 0,4g more of an unify nano is worse the weight and money.

Man I'm just worried I go through all this trouble and expense and turns out I can't tune out the jello and that's just how plastic frame whoops are ... oh man that would suck lol!! I notice too that in angle mode, my footage is pretty solid. I suspect a lot of the HD whoop footage I see on youtube is actually in angle mode. That Nick Burns guy has a Mobula 6HD transplanted to a 75mm frame video and the footage is rock solid ... using stock Mobula 6HD PIDs lollll cmon that's crazy talk. How can that even be possible lol. So I'm thinking it's all angle mode and not acro.

I'm fixating on this because if this can take as solid a HD footage as my bigger drones, that's insane portability. Between my Tango 2 and USB charger for the 1S lipos, that's as portable and *discrete* as it gets when it comes to capturing legit 4K footage. But maybe it's still a pipe dream for now.

i guess that cant be the difference, anglemode doesnt smooth the video footage in any way, its more a risk to get pitch-dips in the footage