Posts: 17 Threads: 7 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 13 Joined: Jul 2022 Reputation: 0 Hi guys,
I've build myself tiny whoop based on Diamond F4 flight controller with tiny whoop motors. It's flying amazing.
A while ago I had the problem where there was just not enough power to lift off the drone.
I replaced the power connector but didn't help. Then I replaced the motors and it came back to normal.
Yesterday happened the same problem. Had a minor crash and after that motors would start but there is not enough power to lift off. Like there was cut off on power with full throttle it's not max power. I made a quick video and posted in on YouTube link available below.
I know last time changing the motors helped but these are quite new motors now I am starting to think that this is not motor related.
I've checked all the soldering spots all look good.
Did anyone have similar experience?
Thanks guys ![[-]](https://intofpv.com/images/collapse.png) • Posts: 2,439 Threads: 75 Likes Received: 1,365 in 1,021 posts Likes Given: 789 Joined: Apr 2022 Reputation: 41 How heavy is it? Sorry have to get this one out of the way.
What Lipos are you using? Are they fully charged?
So some things that would help us.
Please post the entire spec of it, ie which parts you used.
Then post in [ code ] [/ code ] tags a Betaflight dump.
Do you have any throttle limiting activated. This can be done from the radio, via motor output limit and via throttle scaling.
This looks the same as when I set my motor output limit to 25 by accident. It would coast around on the floor, but would never reach hover point. Try Not, Do or Do Not
- Yoda
Posts: 17 Threads: 7 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 13 Joined: Jul 2022 Reputation: 0 (27-Mar-2023, 05:23 PM)Pathfinder075 Wrote: How heavy is it? Sorry have to get this one out of the way.
What Lipos are you using? Are they fully charged?
So some things that would help us.
Please post the entire spec of it, ie which parts you used.
Then post in [ code ] [/ code ] tags a Betaflight dump.
Do you have any throttle limiting activated. This can be done from the radio, via motor output limit and via throttle scaling.
This looks the same as when I set my motor output limit to 25 by accident. It would coast around on the floor, but would never reach hover point. thanks for the interest. Below are all the specs. Lipo is fully charged. Cut off power happened out of nowhere - I was flying, had a little crash and bam that's it not enough power to lift off anymore. FC Happymodel DiamondF4 FRSKY AIO 5-IN-1 Motors 702 21,500kv from Tiny Whoop Camera NewBeeDrone BeeEye Frame Meteor65 Props Gemfan 31mm 3-blade NBD BeeBrain Goober Canopy Lipo 1s Tattu 300mAh, PH2.0 Dry weight 19 grams Code: #
# dump
# version
# Betaflight / STM32F411 (S411) 4.4.0 Feb 1 2023 / 23:41:07 (4605309d8) MSP API: 1.45
# config: YES
# start the command batch
batch start
board_name CRAZYBEEF4FR
manufacturer_id HAMO
# name: -
# resources
resource BEEPER 1 C15
resource MOTOR 1 B10
resource MOTOR 2 B06
resource MOTOR 3 B07
resource MOTOR 4 B08
resource MOTOR 5 NONE
resource MOTOR 6 NONE
resource MOTOR 7 NONE
resource MOTOR 8 NONE
resource LED_STRIP 1 A00
resource SERIAL_TX 1 A09
resource SERIAL_TX 2 A02
resource SERIAL_TX 3 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 4 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 5 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 6 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 7 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 8 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 9 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 10 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 11 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 12 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 1 A10
resource SERIAL_RX 2 A03
resource SERIAL_RX 3 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 4 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 5 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 6 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 7 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 8 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 9 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 10 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 11 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 12 NONE
resource INVERTER 1 NONE
resource INVERTER 2 NONE
resource INVERTER 3 NONE
resource INVERTER 4 NONE
resource INVERTER 5 NONE
resource INVERTER 6 NONE
resource INVERTER 7 NONE
resource INVERTER 8 NONE
resource INVERTER 9 NONE
resource INVERTER 10 NONE
resource INVERTER 11 NONE
resource INVERTER 12 NONE
resource I2C_SCL 1 NONE
resource I2C_SCL 2 NONE
resource I2C_SCL 3 NONE
resource I2C_SDA 1 NONE
resource I2C_SDA 2 NONE
resource I2C_SDA 3 NONE
resource LED 1 C13
resource LED 2 NONE
resource LED 3 NONE
resource SPI_SCK 1 A05
resource SPI_SCK 2 B13
resource SPI_SCK 3 B03
resource SPI_MISO 1 A06
resource SPI_MISO 2 B14
resource SPI_MISO 3 B04
resource SPI_MOSI 1 A07
resource SPI_MOSI 2 B15
resource SPI_MOSI 3 B05
resource ESCSERIAL 1 NONE
resource ADC_BATT 1 B00
resource ADC_RSSI 1 NONE
resource ADC_CURR 1 B01
resource ADC_EXT 1 NONE
resource PINIO 1 NONE
resource PINIO 2 NONE
resource PINIO 3 NONE
resource PINIO 4 NONE
resource OSD_CS 1 B12
resource RX_SPI_CS 1 A15
resource RX_SPI_EXTI 1 C14
resource RX_SPI_BIND 1 B02
resource RX_SPI_LED 1 B09
resource RX_SPI_CC2500_TX_EN 1 NONE
resource RX_SPI_CC2500_LNA_EN 1 NONE
resource RX_SPI_CC2500_ANT_SEL 1 NONE
resource GYRO_EXTI 1 A01
resource GYRO_EXTI 2 NONE
resource GYRO_CS 1 A04
resource GYRO_CS 2 NONE
resource USB_DETECT 1 NONE
resource PULLUP 1 NONE
resource PULLUP 2 NONE
resource PULLUP 3 NONE
resource PULLUP 4 NONE
resource PULLDOWN 1 NONE
resource PULLDOWN 2 NONE
resource PULLDOWN 3 NONE
resource PULLDOWN 4 NONE
# timer
timer A03 AF3
# pin A03: TIM9 CH2 (AF3)
timer B10 AF1
# pin B10: TIM2 CH3 (AF1)
timer B06 AF2
# pin B06: TIM4 CH1 (AF2)
timer B07 AF2
# pin B07: TIM4 CH2 (AF2)
timer B08 AF2
# pin B08: TIM4 CH3 (AF2)
timer A00 AF2
# pin A00: TIM5 CH1 (AF2)
timer A02 AF3
# pin A02: TIM9 CH1 (AF3)
timer A09 AF1
# pin A09: TIM1 CH2 (AF1)
timer A10 AF1
# pin A10: TIM1 CH3 (AF1)
# dma
dma SPI_MOSI 1 NONE
dma SPI_MOSI 2 NONE
dma SPI_MOSI 3 NONE
dma SPI_MISO 1 NONE
dma SPI_MISO 2 NONE
dma SPI_MISO 3 NONE
dma SPI_TX 1 NONE
dma SPI_TX 2 NONE
dma SPI_TX 3 NONE
dma SPI_RX 1 NONE
dma SPI_RX 2 NONE
dma SPI_RX 3 NONE
dma ADC 1 1
# ADC 1: DMA2 Stream 4 Channel 0
dma ADC 2 NONE
dma ADC 3 NONE
dma UART_TX 1 NONE
dma UART_TX 2 NONE
dma UART_TX 3 NONE
dma UART_TX 4 NONE
dma UART_TX 5 NONE
dma UART_TX 6 NONE
dma UART_TX 7 NONE
dma UART_TX 8 NONE
dma UART_RX 1 NONE
dma UART_RX 2 NONE
dma UART_RX 3 NONE
dma UART_RX 4 NONE
dma UART_RX 5 NONE
dma UART_RX 6 NONE
dma UART_RX 7 NONE
dma UART_RX 8 NONE
dma pin A03 NONE
dma pin B10 0
# pin B10: DMA1 Stream 1 Channel 3
dma pin B06 0
# pin B06: DMA1 Stream 0 Channel 2
dma pin B07 0
# pin B07: DMA1 Stream 3 Channel 2
dma pin B08 0
# pin B08: DMA1 Stream 7 Channel 2
dma pin A00 0
# pin A00: DMA1 Stream 2 Channel 6
dma pin A02 NONE
dma pin A09 0
# pin A09: DMA2 Stream 6 Channel 0
dma pin A10 0
# pin A10: DMA2 Stream 6 Channel 0
# feature
feature -RX_PPM
feature -INFLIGHT_ACC_CAL
feature -RX_SERIAL
feature -MOTOR_STOP
feature -SERVO_TILT
feature -SOFTSERIAL
feature -GPS
feature -RANGEFINDER
feature -TELEMETRY
feature -3D
feature -RX_PARALLEL_PWM
feature -RX_MSP
feature -RSSI_ADC
feature -LED_STRIP
feature -DISPLAY
feature -OSD
feature -CHANNEL_FORWARDING
feature -TRANSPONDER
feature -AIRMODE
feature -RX_SPI
feature -ESC_SENSOR
feature -ANTI_GRAVITY
feature OSD
feature AIRMODE
feature RX_SPI
feature ANTI_GRAVITY
# serial
serial 20 1 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 0 0 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 1 2048 115200 57600 0 115200
# mixer
mixer QUADX
mmix reset
# beeper
beeper GYRO_CALIBRATED
beeper RX_LOST
beeper RX_LOST_LANDING
beeper DISARMING
beeper ARMING
beeper ARMING_GPS_FIX
beeper ARMING_GPS_NO_FIX
beeper BAT_CRIT_LOW
beeper BAT_LOW
beeper GPS_STATUS
beeper RX_SET
beeper ACC_CALIBRATION
beeper ACC_CALIBRATION_FAIL
beeper READY_BEEP
beeper MULTI_BEEPS
beeper DISARM_REPEAT
beeper ARMED
beeper SYSTEM_INIT
beeper ON_USB
beeper BLACKBOX_ERASE
beeper CRASH_FLIP
beeper CAM_CONNECTION_OPEN
beeper CAM_CONNECTION_CLOSE
beeper RC_SMOOTHING_INIT_FAIL
# beacon
beacon -RX_LOST
beacon -RX_SET
# map
map AETR1234
# led
led 0 0,0::C:0
led 1 0,0::C:0
led 2 0,0::C:0
led 3 0,0::C:0
led 4 0,0::C:0
led 5 0,0::C:0
led 6 0,0::C:0
led 7 0,0::C:0
led 8 0,0::C:0
led 9 0,0::C:0
led 10 0,0::C:0
led 11 0,0::C:0
led 12 0,0::C:0
led 13 0,0::C:0
led 14 0,0::C:0
led 15 0,0::C:0
led 16 0,0::C:0
led 17 0,0::C:0
led 18 0,0::C:0
led 19 0,0::C:0
led 20 0,0::C:0
led 21 0,0::C:0
led 22 0,0::C:0
led 23 0,0::C:0
led 24 0,0::C:0
led 25 0,0::C:0
led 26 0,0::C:0
led 27 0,0::C:0
led 28 0,0::C:0
led 29 0,0::C:0
led 30 0,0::C:0
led 31 0,0::C:0
# color
color 0 0,0,0
color 1 0,255,255
color 2 0,0,255
color 3 30,0,255
color 4 60,0,255
color 5 90,0,255
color 6 120,0,255
color 7 150,0,255
color 8 180,0,255
color 9 210,0,255
color 10 240,0,255
color 11 270,0,255
color 12 300,0,255
color 13 330,0,255
color 14 0,0,0
color 15 0,0,0
# mode_color
mode_color 0 0 1
mode_color 0 1 11
mode_color 0 2 2
mode_color 0 3 13
mode_color 0 4 10
mode_color 0 5 3
mode_color 1 0 5
mode_color 1 1 11
mode_color 1 2 3
mode_color 1 3 13
mode_color 1 4 10
mode_color 1 5 3
mode_color 2 0 10
mode_color 2 1 11
mode_color 2 2 4
mode_color 2 3 13
mode_color 2 4 10
mode_color 2 5 3
mode_color 3 0 8
mode_color 3 1 11
mode_color 3 2 4
mode_color 3 3 13
mode_color 3 4 10
mode_color 3 5 3
mode_color 4 0 7
mode_color 4 1 11
mode_color 4 2 3
mode_color 4 3 13
mode_color 4 4 10
mode_color 4 5 3
mode_color 5 0 0
mode_color 5 1 0
mode_color 5 2 0
mode_color 5 3 0
mode_color 5 4 0
mode_color 5 5 0
mode_color 6 0 6
mode_color 6 1 10
mode_color 6 2 1
mode_color 6 3 0
mode_color 6 4 0
mode_color 6 5 2
mode_color 6 6 3
mode_color 6 7 6
mode_color 6 8 0
mode_color 6 9 0
mode_color 6 10 0
mode_color 7 0 3
# aux
aux 0 0 0 1750 2100 0 0
aux 1 1 1 900 1175 0 0
aux 2 2 1 1300 1700 0 0
aux 3 35 2 1300 1700 0 0
aux 4 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 5 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 6 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 7 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 8 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 9 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 10 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 11 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 12 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 13 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 14 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 15 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 16 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 17 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 18 0 0 900 900 0 0
aux 19 0 0 900 900 0 0
# adjrange
adjrange 0 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 1 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 2 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 3 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 4 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 5 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 6 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 7 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 8 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 9 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 10 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 11 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 12 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 13 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 14 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 15 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 16 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 17 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 18 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 19 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 20 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 21 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 22 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 23 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 24 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 25 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 26 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 27 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 28 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
adjrange 29 0 0 900 900 0 0 0 0
# rxrange
rxrange 0 1000 2000
rxrange 1 1000 2000
rxrange 2 1000 2000
rxrange 3 1000 2000
# vtxtable
vtxtable bands 6
vtxtable channels 8
vtxtable band 1 BOSCAM_A A FACTORY 5865 5845 5825 5805 5785 5765 5745 5725
vtxtable band 2 BOSCAM_B B FACTORY 5733 5752 5771 5790 5809 5828 5847 5866
vtxtable band 3 BOSCAM_E E FACTORY 5705 5685 5665 0 5885 5905 0 0
vtxtable band 4 FATSHARK F FACTORY 5740 5760 5780 5800 5820 5840 5860 5880
vtxtable band 5 RACEBAND R FACTORY 5658 5695 5732 5769 5806 5843 5880 5917
vtxtable band 6 LOWRACE L FACTORY 5333 5373 5413 5453 5493 5533 5573 5613
vtxtable powerlevels 5
vtxtable powervalues 10 2 14 16 26
vtxtable powerlabels 0 RCE 25 100 400
# vtx
vtx 0 0 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 1 0 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 2 0 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 3 0 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 4 0 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 5 0 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 6 0 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 7 0 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 8 0 0 0 0 900 900
vtx 9 0 0 0 0 900 900
# rxfail
rxfail 0 a
rxfail 1 a
rxfail 2 a
rxfail 3 a
rxfail 4 h
rxfail 5 h
rxfail 6 h
rxfail 7 h
rxfail 8 h
rxfail 9 h
rxfail 10 h
rxfail 11 h
rxfail 12 h
rxfail 13 h
rxfail 14 h
rxfail 15 h
rxfail 16 h
rxfail 17 h
# master
set gyro_hardware_lpf = NORMAL
set gyro_lpf1_type = PT1
set gyro_lpf1_static_hz = 250
set gyro_lpf2_type = PT1
set gyro_lpf2_static_hz = 500
set gyro_notch1_hz = 0
set gyro_notch1_cutoff = 0
set gyro_notch2_hz = 0
set gyro_notch2_cutoff = 0
set gyro_calib_duration = 125
set gyro_calib_noise_limit = 48
set gyro_offset_yaw = 0
set gyro_overflow_detect = ALL
set yaw_spin_recovery = AUTO
set yaw_spin_threshold = 1950
set gyro_to_use = FIRST
set dyn_notch_count = 3
set dyn_notch_q = 300
set dyn_notch_min_hz = 100
set dyn_notch_max_hz = 600
set gyro_lpf1_dyn_min_hz = 250
set gyro_lpf1_dyn_max_hz = 500
set gyro_lpf1_dyn_expo = 5
set gyro_filter_debug_axis = ROLL
set acc_hardware = AUTO
set acc_lpf_hz = 25
set acc_trim_pitch = 0
set acc_trim_roll = 1
set acc_calibration = -5,-25,16,1
set mid_rc = 1500
set min_check = 1050
set max_check = 1900
set rssi_channel = 0
set rssi_src_frame_errors = OFF
set rssi_scale = 100
set rssi_offset = 0
set rssi_invert = OFF
set rssi_src_frame_lpf_period = 30
set rssi_smoothing = 125
set rc_smoothing = ON
set rc_smoothing_auto_factor = 30
set rc_smoothing_auto_factor_throttle = 30
set rc_smoothing_setpoint_cutoff = 0
set rc_smoothing_feedforward_cutoff = 0
set rc_smoothing_throttle_cutoff = 0
set rc_smoothing_debug_axis = ROLL
set fpv_mix_degrees = 0
set max_aux_channels = 14
set serialrx_provider = CRSF
set serialrx_inverted = OFF
set sbus_baud_fast = OFF
set crsf_use_negotiated_baud = OFF
set airmode_start_throttle_percent = 25
set rx_min_usec = 885
set rx_max_usec = 2115
set serialrx_halfduplex = OFF
set msp_override_channels_mask = 0
set rx_spi_protocol = FRSKY_D
set rx_spi_bus = 3
set rx_spi_led_inversion = OFF
set adc_device = 1
set adc_vrefint_calibration = 0
set adc_tempsensor_calibration30 = 0
set adc_tempsensor_calibration110 = 0
set blackbox_sample_rate = 1/4
set blackbox_device = SERIAL
set blackbox_disable_pids = OFF
set blackbox_disable_rc = OFF
set blackbox_disable_setpoint = OFF
set blackbox_disable_bat = OFF
set blackbox_disable_rssi = OFF
set blackbox_disable_gyro = OFF
set blackbox_disable_acc = OFF
set blackbox_disable_debug = OFF
set blackbox_disable_motors = OFF
set blackbox_disable_gps = OFF
set blackbox_mode = NORMAL
set blackbox_high_resolution = OFF
set min_throttle = 1070
set max_throttle = 2000
set min_command = 1000
set dshot_idle_value = 550
set dshot_burst = AUTO
set dshot_bidir = OFF
set dshot_edt = OFF
set dshot_bitbang = OFF
set dshot_bitbang_timer = AUTO
set use_unsynced_pwm = OFF
set motor_pwm_protocol = DSHOT600
set motor_pwm_rate = 480
set motor_pwm_inversion = OFF
set motor_poles = 14
set motor_output_reordering = 3,2,1,0,4,5,6,7
set thr_corr_value = 0
set thr_corr_angle = 800
set failsafe_delay = 15
set failsafe_off_delay = 10
set failsafe_throttle = 1000
set failsafe_switch_mode = STAGE1
set failsafe_throttle_low_delay = 100
set failsafe_procedure = DROP
set failsafe_recovery_delay = 10
set failsafe_stick_threshold = 30
set align_board_roll = 0
set align_board_pitch = 0
set align_board_yaw = 0
set bat_capacity = 0
set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 430
set vbat_full_cell_voltage = 410
set vbat_min_cell_voltage = 320
set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 340
set vbat_hysteresis = 1
set current_meter = ADC
set battery_meter = ADC
set vbat_detect_cell_voltage = 300
set use_vbat_alerts = ON
set use_cbat_alerts = OFF
set cbat_alert_percent = 10
set vbat_cutoff_percent = 100
set force_battery_cell_count = 0
set vbat_display_lpf_period = 30
set vbat_sag_lpf_period = 2
set ibat_lpf_period = 10
set vbat_duration_for_warning = 0
set vbat_duration_for_critical = 0
set vbat_scale = 110
set vbat_divider = 10
set vbat_multiplier = 1
set ibata_scale = 179
set ibata_offset = 0
set ibatv_scale = 0
set ibatv_offset = 0
set beeper_inversion = ON
set beeper_od = OFF
set beeper_frequency = 0
set beeper_dshot_beacon_tone = 1
set yaw_motors_reversed = OFF
set mixer_type = LEGACY
set crashflip_motor_percent = 0
set crashflip_expo = 35
set 3d_deadband_low = 1406
set 3d_deadband_high = 1514
set 3d_neutral = 1460
set 3d_deadband_throttle = 50
set 3d_limit_low = 1000
set 3d_limit_high = 2000
set 3d_switched_mode = OFF
set reboot_character = 82
set serial_update_rate_hz = 100
set imu_dcm_kp = 2500
set imu_dcm_ki = 0
set small_angle = 90
set imu_process_denom = 2
set auto_disarm_delay = 5
set gyro_cal_on_first_arm = OFF
set gps_provider = UBLOX
set gps_sbas_mode = NONE
set gps_auto_config = ON
set gps_auto_baud = OFF
set gps_ublox_mode = AIRBORNE
set gps_ublox_use_galileo = OFF
set gps_set_home_point_once = OFF
set gps_use_3d_speed = OFF
set gps_sbas_integrity = OFF
set gps_rescue_min_start_dist = 30
set gps_rescue_alt_mode = MAX_ALT
set gps_rescue_initial_climb = 10
set gps_rescue_ascend_rate = 500
set gps_rescue_return_alt = 30
set gps_rescue_ground_speed = 500
set gps_rescue_pitch_angle_max = 40
set gps_rescue_roll_mix = 150
set gps_rescue_descent_dist = 20
set gps_rescue_descend_rate = 100
set gps_rescue_landing_alt = 4
set gps_rescue_throttle_min = 1100
set gps_rescue_throttle_max = 1600
set gps_rescue_throttle_hover = 1275
set gps_rescue_sanity_checks = RESCUE_SANITY_FS_ONLY
set gps_rescue_min_sats = 8
set gps_rescue_allow_arming_without_fix = OFF
set gps_rescue_throttle_p = 15
set gps_rescue_throttle_i = 15
set gps_rescue_throttle_d = 15
set gps_rescue_velocity_p = 8
set gps_rescue_velocity_i = 30
set gps_rescue_velocity_d = 20
set gps_rescue_yaw_p = 20
set deadband = 0
set yaw_deadband = 0
set yaw_control_reversed = OFF
set pid_process_denom = 2
set runaway_takeoff_prevention = ON
set runaway_takeoff_deactivate_delay = 500
set runaway_takeoff_deactivate_throttle_percent = 20
set simplified_gyro_filter = ON
set simplified_gyro_filter_multiplier = 100
set tlm_inverted = OFF
set tlm_halfduplex = ON
set hott_alarm_int = 5
set pid_in_tlm = OFF
set report_cell_voltage = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_voltage = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_current = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_fuel = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_mode = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_acc_x = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_acc_y = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_acc_z = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_pitch = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_roll = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_heading = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_altitude = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_vario = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_lat_long = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_ground_speed = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_distance = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_esc_current = ON
set telemetry_disabled_esc_voltage = ON
set telemetry_disabled_esc_rpm = ON
set telemetry_disabled_esc_temperature = ON
set telemetry_disabled_temperature = OFF
set telemetry_disabled_cap_used = ON
set ledstrip_visual_beeper = OFF
set ledstrip_visual_beeper_color = WHITE
set ledstrip_grb_rgb = GRB
set ledstrip_profile = STATUS
set ledstrip_race_color = ORANGE
set ledstrip_beacon_color = WHITE
set ledstrip_beacon_period_ms = 500
set ledstrip_beacon_percent = 50
set ledstrip_beacon_armed_only = OFF
set ledstrip_brightness = 100
set osd_units = METRIC
set osd_warn_bitmask = 8191
set osd_rssi_alarm = 20
set osd_link_quality_alarm = 80
set osd_rssi_dbm_alarm = -60
set osd_rsnr_alarm = 4
set osd_cap_alarm = 2200
set osd_alt_alarm = 100
set osd_distance_alarm = 0
set osd_esc_temp_alarm = 0
set osd_esc_rpm_alarm = -1
set osd_esc_current_alarm = -1
set osd_core_temp_alarm = 70
set osd_ah_max_pit = 20
set osd_ah_max_rol = 40
set osd_ah_invert = OFF
set osd_logo_on_arming = OFF
set osd_logo_on_arming_duration = 5
set osd_tim1 = 2560
set osd_tim2 = 2561
set osd_vbat_pos = 2401
set osd_rssi_pos = 234
set osd_link_quality_pos = 234
set osd_link_tx_power_pos = 234
set osd_rssi_dbm_pos = 2392
set osd_rsnr_pos = 234
set osd_tim_1_pos = 234
set osd_tim_2_pos = 234
set osd_remaining_time_estimate_pos = 234
set osd_flymode_pos = 2424
set osd_anti_gravity_pos = 234
set osd_g_force_pos = 234
set osd_throttle_pos = 234
set osd_vtx_channel_pos = 234
set osd_crosshairs_pos = 205
set osd_ah_sbar_pos = 206
set osd_ah_pos = 78
set osd_current_pos = 234
set osd_mah_drawn_pos = 234
set osd_wh_drawn_pos = 234
set osd_motor_diag_pos = 234
set osd_craft_name_pos = 234
set osd_pilot_name_pos = 234
set osd_gps_speed_pos = 234
set osd_gps_lon_pos = 234
set osd_gps_lat_pos = 234
set osd_gps_sats_pos = 234
set osd_home_dir_pos = 234
set osd_home_dist_pos = 234
set osd_flight_dist_pos = 234
set osd_compass_bar_pos = 234
set osd_altitude_pos = 234
set osd_pid_roll_pos = 234
set osd_pid_pitch_pos = 234
set osd_pid_yaw_pos = 234
set osd_debug_pos = 234
set osd_power_pos = 234
set osd_pidrate_profile_pos = 234
set osd_warnings_pos = 14665
set osd_avg_cell_voltage_pos = 2369
set osd_pit_ang_pos = 234
set osd_rol_ang_pos = 234
set osd_battery_usage_pos = 234
set osd_disarmed_pos = 234
set osd_nheading_pos = 234
set osd_up_down_reference_pos = 205
set osd_ready_mode_pos = 234
set osd_esc_tmp_pos = 234
set osd_esc_rpm_pos = 234
set osd_esc_rpm_freq_pos = 234
set osd_rtc_date_time_pos = 234
set osd_adjustment_range_pos = 234
set osd_flip_arrow_pos = 234
set osd_core_temp_pos = 2456
set osd_log_status_pos = 234
set osd_stick_overlay_left_pos = 234
set osd_stick_overlay_right_pos = 234
set osd_stick_overlay_radio_mode = 2
set osd_rate_profile_name_pos = 234
set osd_pid_profile_name_pos = 234
set osd_profile_name_pos = 234
set osd_rcchannels_pos = 234
set osd_camera_frame_pos = 35
set osd_efficiency_pos = 234
set osd_total_flights_pos = 234
set osd_aux_pos = 234
set osd_sys_goggle_voltage_pos = 234
set osd_sys_vtx_voltage_pos = 234
set osd_sys_bitrate_pos = 234
set osd_sys_delay_pos = 234
set osd_sys_distance_pos = 234
set osd_sys_lq_pos = 234
set osd_sys_goggle_dvr_pos = 234
set osd_sys_vtx_dvr_pos = 234
set osd_sys_warnings_pos = 234
set osd_sys_vtx_temp_pos = 234
set osd_sys_fan_speed_pos = 234
set osd_stat_bitmask = 14124
set osd_profile = 1
set osd_profile_1_name = -
set osd_profile_2_name = -
set osd_profile_3_name = -
set osd_gps_sats_show_hdop = OFF
set osd_displayport_device = AUTO
set osd_rcchannels = -1,-1,-1,-1
set osd_camera_frame_width = 24
set osd_camera_frame_height = 11
set osd_stat_avg_cell_value = OFF
set osd_framerate_hz = 12
set osd_menu_background = TRANSPARENT
set osd_aux_channel = 1
set osd_aux_scale = 200
set osd_aux_symbol = 65
set osd_canvas_width = 30
set osd_canvas_height = 13
set osd_craftname_msgs = OFF
set system_hse_mhz = 8
set task_statistics = ON
set debug_mode = NONE
set rate_6pos_switch = OFF
set cpu_overclock = 108MHZ
set pwr_on_arm_grace = 5
set enable_stick_arming = OFF
set vtx_band = 5
set vtx_channel = 8
set vtx_power = 4
set vtx_low_power_disarm = OFF
set vtx_softserial_alt = OFF
set vtx_freq = 5917
set vtx_pit_mode_freq = 0
set vtx_halfduplex = ON
set vcd_video_system = AUTO
set vcd_h_offset = 0
set vcd_v_offset = 0
set max7456_clock = NOMINAL
set max7456_spi_bus = 2
set max7456_preinit_opu = OFF
set displayport_msp_col_adjust = 0
set displayport_msp_row_adjust = 0
set displayport_msp_fonts = 0,0,0,0
set displayport_msp_use_device_blink = OFF
set displayport_max7456_col_adjust = 0
set displayport_max7456_row_adjust = 0
set displayport_max7456_inv = OFF
set displayport_max7456_blk = 0
set displayport_max7456_wht = 2
set esc_sensor_halfduplex = OFF
set esc_sensor_current_offset = 0
set frsky_spi_autobind = OFF
set frsky_spi_tx_id = 65,132,1
set frsky_spi_offset = 2
set frsky_spi_bind_hop_data = 0,30,60,91,120,150,180,210,5,35,65,95,125,155,185,215,10,40,70,100,130,160,190,221,15,45,75,105,135,165,195,225,20,50,80,110,140,170,200,230,25,55,85,115,145,175,205,0,0,0
set frsky_x_rx_num = 0
set frsky_spi_a1_source = VBAT
set cc2500_spi_chip_detect = ON
set led_inversion = 0
set pinio_config = 1,1,1,1
set pinio_box = 255,255,255,255
set usb_hid_cdc = OFF
set rcdevice_init_dev_attempts = 6
set rcdevice_init_dev_attempt_interval = 1000
set rcdevice_protocol_version = 0
set rcdevice_feature = 0
set gyro_1_bustype = SPI
set gyro_1_spibus = 1
set gyro_1_i2cBus = 0
set gyro_1_i2c_address = 0
set gyro_1_sensor_align = CW180
set gyro_1_align_roll = 0
set gyro_1_align_pitch = 0
set gyro_1_align_yaw = 1800
set gyro_2_bustype = SPI
set gyro_2_spibus = 0
set gyro_2_i2cBus = 0
set gyro_2_i2c_address = 0
set gyro_2_sensor_align = CW0
set gyro_2_align_roll = 0
set gyro_2_align_pitch = 0
set gyro_2_align_yaw = 0
set i2c1_pullup = OFF
set i2c1_clockspeed_khz = 800
set i2c2_pullup = OFF
set i2c2_clockspeed_khz = 800
set i2c3_pullup = OFF
set i2c3_clockspeed_khz = 800
set mco2_on_pc9 = OFF
set spektrum_spi_protocol = 0
set spektrum_spi_mfg_id = 0,0,0,0
set spektrum_spi_num_channels = 0
set scheduler_relax_rx = 1
set scheduler_relax_osd = 1
set serialmsp_halfduplex = OFF
set timezone_offset_minutes = 0
set rpm_filter_harmonics = 3
set rpm_filter_q = 500
set rpm_filter_min_hz = 100
set rpm_filter_fade_range_hz = 50
set rpm_filter_lpf_hz = 150
set flysky_spi_tx_id = 0
set flysky_spi_rf_channels = 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
set stats_min_armed_time_s = -1
set stats_total_flights = 0
set stats_total_time_s = 0
set stats_total_dist_m = 0
set craft_name = -
set pilot_name = -
set altitude_source = DEFAULT
set altitude_prefer_baro = 100
set altitude_lpf = 300
set altitude_d_lpf = 100
set box_user_1_name = -
set box_user_2_name = -
set box_user_3_name = -
set box_user_4_name = -
profile 0
# profile 0
set profile_name = -
set dterm_lpf1_dyn_min_hz = 75
set dterm_lpf1_dyn_max_hz = 150
set dterm_lpf1_dyn_expo = 5
set dterm_lpf1_type = PT1
set dterm_lpf1_static_hz = 75
set dterm_lpf2_type = PT1
set dterm_lpf2_static_hz = 150
set dterm_notch_hz = 0
set dterm_notch_cutoff = 0
set vbat_sag_compensation = 0
set pid_at_min_throttle = ON
set anti_gravity_gain = 80
set anti_gravity_cutoff_hz = 5
set anti_gravity_p_gain = 100
set acc_limit_yaw = 0
set acc_limit = 0
set crash_dthreshold = 50
set crash_gthreshold = 400
set crash_setpoint_threshold = 350
set crash_time = 500
set crash_delay = 0
set crash_recovery_angle = 10
set crash_recovery_rate = 100
set crash_limit_yaw = 200
set crash_recovery = OFF
set iterm_rotation = OFF
set iterm_relax = RP
set iterm_relax_type = SETPOINT
set iterm_relax_cutoff = 15
set iterm_windup = 85
set iterm_limit = 400
set pidsum_limit = 500
set pidsum_limit_yaw = 400
set yaw_lowpass_hz = 100
set throttle_boost = 5
set throttle_boost_cutoff = 15
set p_pitch = 47
set i_pitch = 84
set d_pitch = 46
set f_pitch = 125
set p_roll = 45
set i_roll = 80
set d_roll = 40
set f_roll = 120
set p_yaw = 45
set i_yaw = 80
set d_yaw = 0
set f_yaw = 120
set angle_level_strength = 50
set horizon_level_strength = 50
set horizon_transition = 75
set level_limit = 55
set horizon_tilt_effect = 75
set horizon_tilt_expert_mode = OFF
set abs_control_gain = 0
set abs_control_limit = 90
set abs_control_error_limit = 20
set abs_control_cutoff = 11
set use_integrated_yaw = OFF
set integrated_yaw_relax = 200
set d_min_roll = 30
set d_min_pitch = 34
set d_min_yaw = 0
set d_max_gain = 37
set d_max_advance = 20
set motor_output_limit = 100
set auto_profile_cell_count = 0
set launch_control_mode = NORMAL
set launch_trigger_allow_reset = ON
set launch_trigger_throttle_percent = 20
set launch_angle_limit = 0
set launch_control_gain = 40
set thrust_linear = 0
set transient_throttle_limit = 0
set feedforward_transition = 0
set feedforward_averaging = OFF
set feedforward_smooth_factor = 25
set feedforward_jitter_factor = 7
set feedforward_boost = 15
set feedforward_max_rate_limit = 90
set dyn_idle_min_rpm = 0
set dyn_idle_p_gain = 50
set dyn_idle_i_gain = 50
set dyn_idle_d_gain = 50
set dyn_idle_max_increase = 150
set level_race_mode = OFF
set simplified_pids_mode = RPY
set simplified_master_multiplier = 100
set simplified_i_gain = 100
set simplified_d_gain = 100
set simplified_pi_gain = 100
set simplified_dmax_gain = 100
set simplified_feedforward_gain = 100
set simplified_pitch_d_gain = 100
set simplified_pitch_pi_gain = 100
set simplified_dterm_filter = ON
set simplified_dterm_filter_multiplier = 100
set tpa_mode = D
set tpa_rate = 65
set tpa_breakpoint = 1350
rateprofile 0
# rateprofile 0
set rateprofile_name = -
set thr_mid = 50
set thr_expo = 0
set rates_type = ACTUAL
set quickrates_rc_expo = OFF
set roll_rc_rate = 7
set pitch_rc_rate = 7
set yaw_rc_rate = 7
set roll_expo = 0
set pitch_expo = 0
set yaw_expo = 0
set roll_srate = 67
set pitch_srate = 67
set yaw_srate = 67
set throttle_limit_type = OFF
set throttle_limit_percent = 100
set roll_rate_limit = 1998
set pitch_rate_limit = 1998
set yaw_rate_limit = 1998
set roll_level_expo = 0
set pitch_level_expo = 0
# end the command batch
batch end
#
• Posts: 943 Threads: 71 Likes Received: 339 in 253 posts Likes Given: 156 Joined: Dec 2021 Reputation: 19 27-Mar-2023, 06:53 PM (This post was last modified: 27-Mar-2023, 06:54 PM by BadRaven.) The instance I have had like this is because ONE motor was iffy and the FC "balances" to power to that max, making it look elsewhere or the whole set.
Used to be more common with brushed motors way back when.................. Posts: 4,073 Threads: 75 Likes Received: 2,548 in 1,858 posts Likes Given: 3,949 Joined: May 2021 Reputation: 121 27-Mar-2023, 08:23 PM (This post was last modified: 27-Mar-2023, 08:25 PM by Lemonyleprosy.) It looks like your rear left motor (circled in green) isn’t producing as much thrust as the other 3 motors. (It’s not lifting up at all like the other three, and it’s dragging it and causing the quad to pivot around it) Make sure that it doesn’t have any hair or gunk caught up around the base, and that there isn’t anything that could be restricted its movement like a prop rubbing a duct. Make sure it spins freely by hand. If all of that is good, double check (and potentially reflow) your motor wiring on that motor on both sides- at the motor and at the fc. Take your props off and run up each motor individually in betaflight- pay attention to that motor to see if it makes a different noise or if it makes the quad vibrate on the bench more than the others. If all of that checks out, then I’d say it’s probably motor or esc. Try replacing that motor with a couple of the older ones. I’m sure you already know this, but just in case, always have a fan blowing over it when you have a battery plugged in on the bench so that you don’t overheat your vtx. ![[Image: zrLUZDbl.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/zrLUZDbl.jpg) Dangerous operations.
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I wish I could get the smell of burnt electronics out of my nose. Posts: 17 Threads: 7 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 13 Joined: Jul 2022 Reputation: 0 (27-Mar-2023, 08:23 PM)Lemonyleprosy Wrote: It looks like your rear left motor (circled in green) isn’t producing as much thrust as the other 3 motors.
(It’s not lifting up at all like the other three, and it’s dragging it and causing the quad to pivot around it)
Make sure that it doesn’t have any hair or gunk caught up around the base, and that there isn’t anything that could be restricted its movement like a prop rubbing a duct. Make sure it spins freely by hand.
If all of that is good, double check (and potentially reflow) your motor wiring on that motor on both sides- at the motor and at the fc.
Take your props off and run up each motor individually in betaflight- pay attention to that motor to see if it makes a different noise or if it makes the quad vibrate on the bench more than the others.
If all of that checks out, then I’d say it’s probably motor or esc. Try replacing that motor with a couple of the older ones.
I’m sure you already know this, but just in case, always have a fan blowing over it when you have a battery plugged in on the bench so that you don’t overheat your vtx.
These are great tips!! I'm going to troubleshot it using those tomorrow  And also you spotted well with that rear left motor - it does look like that's the one with less power. I never even looked at it that way but it is clearly visible now once you pointed it out. Thanks so much guys for your help, you gave me some great insights here. I'll let you know tomorrow how it went. Posts: 4,073 Threads: 75 Likes Received: 2,548 in 1,858 posts Likes Given: 3,949 Joined: May 2021 Reputation: 121 When you crash as often and hard as I do, you start to learn what to look for.  Hopefully some of that will help you fix or at least narrow down your problem, definitely let us know how it goes! Dangerous operations.
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I wish I could get the smell of burnt electronics out of my nose. • Posts: 6,107 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,283 in 1,830 posts Likes Given: 4,733 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 i would also suggest to check the power lead, if it would be partialy broken, not enough current could pass and it would also start to suffer on the worst esc. some of the very small motors are worse about durability, as example the hm 0702 is pretty fragile, the shaft does bend on low force and they are unflyable than - bad performance and a lot of noise. maybe switch to the 35mm rotors and the meteor pro frame on 0802 would make you much more happy about lifetime and durability. 35mm is a bit less nimble, but has much higher topend and response, between common 31mm for 65mm whoops and 40mm on 75mm whoops the very small motors on high kv can really shine on low weight, they are usless on heavy builds, but durability didnt change to much compared to sizes like 0802 sadly :  tinywhoop does provide pretty good quality motors as i know, i had some 0805 for a open prop, 55mm blade quad. maybe its still the motorsize if bad motors become a returning issue. Posts: 17 Threads: 7 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 13 Joined: Jul 2022 Reputation: 0 So I came back to troubleshoot my tiny flying fun machine. Funny thing when I've tried to connect it it just started to fly like normal... So I flew 3 packs around the house and on the 4th battery I started noticing quite apparent wobble (I've experienced that before especially after few pack). And then it stopped lifting off putting me back to square one (which I was actually happy about as I really wanted to get to the bottom of it). Following your advice @Lemonyleprosy in Betaflight straight away I managed to pinpoint faulty motor (it just didn't have enough power). Replaced it with another one and happiness came back. (28-Mar-2023, 01:02 AM)hugnosed_bat Wrote: i would also suggest to check the power lead, if it would be partialy broken, not enough current could pass and it would also start to suffer on the worst esc.
some of the very small motors are worse about durability, as example the hm 0702 is pretty fragile, the shaft does bend on low force and they are unflyable than - bad performance and a lot of noise.
maybe switch to the 35mm rotors and the meteor pro frame on 0802 would make you much more happy about lifetime and durability. 35mm is a bit less nimble, but has much higher topend and response, between common 31mm for 65mm whoops and 40mm on 75mm whoops
the very small motors on high kv can really shine on low weight, they are usless on heavy builds, but durability didnt change to much compared to sizes like 0802 sadly :
tinywhoop does provide pretty good quality motors as i know, i had some 0805 for a open prop, 55mm blade quad. maybe its still the motorsize if bad motors become a returning issue. That is some great wisdom and truth about tiny motors. I wasn't aware of the fragility of those but it all makes sense in my experience - shaft easily bend (checked), they don't last for long (checked). Good thing I bought 2 sets as this will extend the fun. But I am going to follow your advice and will try 35mm rotors with 0802 next time - great help thanks. Also that faulty propeller that I replaced had great amount of movement on it. I am guessing that was the cause of wobbly flying. I am not sure what is the cause of that. If this is natural process of motors usage ?? ( or if I was pressing too hard when mounting the propellers?). There is a short to explain what I am talking about. Anyway my problem is fixed and understood - it boils down to the durability of tiny 0702 motors. Lesson learned and flying continues  Thanks a lot guys. Great help and highly appreciated Posts: 6,107 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,283 in 1,830 posts Likes Given: 4,733 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 that bell did slip upwards a bit, a common issue you can try to push it back, with some glue. not to tight. the bell might produce more electrical noise and decrease the performance. a funn thing to know, i couldnt beleive at first - a bell doesnt move the the uplift - its like bound. you doenst need to secure the bell on the bottom, no bell does flyaway in the air - it seems lik kind of magic as i dont understand it technicaly :-) secured bell does only count for crashes and touches... the movement of the shaft isnt an issue about bell movement in the air - it wouldnt came off even without shaft if it is spinning freely. Posts: 4,073 Threads: 75 Likes Received: 2,548 in 1,858 posts Likes Given: 3,949 Joined: May 2021 Reputation: 121 Glad you were able to find and fix the problem.
I’ve had a number of bells slip up the shaft like that. As Hugnosed said, you can push it back in place.
I usually just hold the bell in one hand, and use one of my larger hex drivers to push the shaft back into the bell from the bottom. Dangerous operations.
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I wish I could get the smell of burnt electronics out of my nose. Posts: 256 Threads: 9 Likes Received: 230 in 147 posts Likes Given: 243 Joined: Oct 2022 Reputation: 8 I got a fairly early Boldclash B06, their first brushless Whoop, and the bells were notorious for popping off the motors on a "regular" Whoop landing, even gentle regular . . . I was suppose to get the new model with . . . imagine the the genius thinking of this . . . clips on motor shaft . . . but I got the old version & they do fly a good 6' from the Whoop. They did send me a set of the new version motors with the clips. I don't remember what happened to the B06, but I still have the old motors & bought a bunch of the replacement bushings for them too. Posts: 4,073 Threads: 75 Likes Received: 2,548 in 1,858 posts Likes Given: 3,949 Joined: May 2021 Reputation: 121 I’m still trying to find a good source for those tiny c clips and bushings.
McMaster-Carr doesn’t sell them that small. Dangerous operations.
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I wish I could get the smell of burnt electronics out of my nose. • Posts: 3 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Mar 2023 Reputation: 0 I have a very similar problem, only that the tinipusher is hovering few cm and it is quite posbbile to control it. with a 4s instead of 3s it hovers even around 1 meter and can be controlled quite well then it comes donw again.
To me everything happened after removing the propeller, it was quite hard pulling, and removing quite few hairs and dust from the shafts. To test the motor individually I found very useful the turrtlemode where it possible to turn on motor or a pair of motor at the time quite well with the remote. I cannot figure out neither a motor to be weaker nor to be few power
Can be the esc has some leak, dispersion and cannot deliver full power, amperes? How to figure out a solution without necessarly trying with a new set of motors?
Thanks • Posts: 256 Threads: 9 Likes Received: 230 in 147 posts Likes Given: 243 Joined: Oct 2022 Reputation: 8 To check your motors individually or the whole set, you can go on the "Motors" tab in Betaflight. You can try spinning each one up a couple times, different throttle and get a better idea if your motor(s) are bad.
You could have bent the shaft on a couple, or loosened the shaft from it's position pulling the props, or just have worn out a motor with the debris. The quad will adjust the motors to the lowest motor's performance, kinda dragging the others down with it.
I'd try them in Betaflight first and see what they do. It's easy and doesn't get cheaper to do either, and see where that leaves you. • |
