Like Caddx, Runcam will be selling the Vista and Nebula Pro too (under different names most likely), and hopefully more cameras for the DJI FPV system will be made available in the future without fear of being blocked

https://oscarliang.com/runcam-dji-partnership/

That makes the whole statement that Caddx made about locking out other 3rd cameras even more laughable. I guess Caddx don't have as close a relationship with DJI as they thought they did, or any power to get things changed. It now also makes me wonder if the other statement Caddx put out about "them" working on Canvas Mode is actually true or just something they made up.

Maybe release of the RunCam Racer 4 and RunCam MIPI were a way for RunCam to show DJI that they could be credible partners and can actually make cameras that work with the DJI FPV System. Now that they are partners they will probably get access to the DJI IP, chipset, and other extended features that will allow them to produce 120fps cameras with low latency mode.

I bet Caddx aren't happy about that at all, especially after having a monopoly on the DJI kit for so long 

This is BIG NEWS.

(09-Aug-2021, 12:51 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: It now also makes me wonder if the other statement Caddx put out about "them" working on Canvas Mode is actually true or just something they made up.

From talking to my contact, it sounded like almost all technical developments have been done by DJI alone, partners simply have little to no involvement. For example I was told that the Vista and Nebula Pro are designed by DJI and rebranded by Caddx, hence Runcam would be able to sell them under a different name.

(09-Aug-2021, 01:09 PM)Oscar Wrote: For example I was told that the Vista and Nebula Pro are designed by DJI and rebranded by Caddx, hence Runcam would be able to sell them under a different name.

That is interesting to hear. I think people have always been under the impression that Caddx actually designed and manufactured Nebula Pro and the Micro Camera (widely believed to be a Nebula Pro in a different case) for the Air Unit themselves.

So maybe it is only the cameras without the chipset needed for the extended features (120fps and low latency mode) that are designed and manufactured by Caddx --> the original Nebula V1 & V2, the Nebula Nano, and the new Nebula Polar. This would also go some way to explaining how RunCam could make the Racer 4 and the MIPI with the same reduced features without needing any involvement from DJI, just like Caddx have with their other reduced feature set cameras.

Interesting news to wake up too. In the end, it seems like this will benefit the end users? More options and hopefully more inventory. Thanks for the news Oscar!

seems a sad day for analog fpv cams and the future of digital transmission in future to me runcam is going into a closed source sell system on digital cams, they might only produce dji compatible anymore? cams not usable for any other digital system. one of the big player in fpv cam does this, foxeer wont solve that gap alone :-(

I don't think they will limit themselves to digital only systems. Too many analog users out there still to not support that segment.

what i mean: they will limit their digital cams to dji. there wont come any digital runcam usable for analog too. we will loose the versatility. some good manufacturers still died like aomway, the marked is still low at 3brands foxeer, runcam and caddx.

runcam in a closed system sell system -on digital fpv cams- seems to be the wrong direction to me :-( there are even more difficulty for any other digital fpv transmission to join the market.
i know they will continue selling analog cams :-)

NICE!

Now can I PLEASE get some cams with 120FPS?!

I've had a Nebula Pro backordered with GetFPV for a while now.

Unofficial word is that a new batch of the Nebula Pro cameras will be appearing around the end of August.

There is something fishy with that statement because according to Oscar's article, it seems that RunCam will be releasing authorised cameras and Vistas around September time, which is effectively the end of August. This makes me wonder if DJI are purposely holding back the Nebula Pro cameras until the RunCam partnership is fully agreed and made public, then maybe we will see both Caddx and RunCam each selling the same Nebula Pro cameras under their own branding respectively.

This makes things very very very interesting for sure. I'll just hold onto my money and keep it stashed to the side for when this new set of cameras may appear...

They do already have 1920@ 60fps with the mipi. It comes stock with 1280@60 but you can adjust the settings and get the higher resolution

https://pyrodrone.com/products/runcam-mi...fpv-camera

(09-Aug-2021, 12:51 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: That makes the whole statement that Caddx made about locking out other 3rd cameras even more laughable. I guess Caddx don't have as close a relationship with DJI as they thought they did, or any power to get things changed. It now also makes me wonder if the other statement Caddx put out about "them" working on Canvas Mode is actually true or just something they made up.

Maybe release of the RunCam Racer 4 and RunCam MIPI were a way for RunCam to show DJI that they could be credible partners and can actually make cameras that work with the DJI FPV System. Now that they are partners they will probably get access to the DJI IP, chipset, and other extended features that will allow them to produce 120fps cameras with low latency mode.

I bet Caddx aren't happy about that at all, especially after having a monopoly on the DJI kit for so long 

(16-Sep-2021, 02:21 AM)m1ooo Wrote: They do already have 1920@ 60fps with the mipi. It comes stock with 1280@60 but you can adjust the settings and get the higher resolution

https://pyrodrone.com/products/runcam-mi...fpv-camera

Yes, but that camera is not DJI compatible. At least I see no evidence anyone confirming it works with DJI.

Furthermore to some extent I think that camera was a joint collaboration between Divimath and Runcam which might have certain NDA and IP protection in place. 

Runcam will have to use another reference design for lunching a DJI compatible camera.

(16-Sep-2021, 02:21 AM)m1ooo Wrote: They do already have 1920@ 60fps with the mipi. It comes stock with 1280@60 but you can adjust the settings and get the higher resolution

https://pyrodrone.com/products/runcam-mi...fpv-camera

There is no way to customise the settings for the RunCam MIPI. The only way to do that is by flashing custom firmware to the MIPI (officially developed by RunCam). RunCam reached out to their user base to find out how much call there was for 1920*1080 on the MIPI but the feedback they received verified that there wasn't much interest, so RunCam said they wouldn't bother investing any time developing the custom 1920*1080 firmware. So even if vendor specs show the MIPI to be 1280*720 (default) with a 1920*1080 (customizable) option, the reality is that the MIPI only actually supports 1280*720.