(19-May-2018, 05:35 AM)Gary pug master Wrote: well like you JD I went back to review my ver on fc, and it is out of date. I thought first I will recheck blheli on my esc and see what they are set at. as I thought they are rock solid 1068 - 1997, but motors really didn't ramp to a smooth spin until 1080 so I reset that and I saw a factory setting that was missing for closed loop mode, factory set is off I had it at something else so back to factory. then I went to betaflight and checked up and down the tabs to make sure all was right with the world. looked at my pid's and in the throttle MID was set at.28 and throttle expo was at .8 idont recall making that change so I pulled up a different drone and looked at settings a they were MID at 1.00 and expo at 0.0. put on props and quick hover test ... up she went.

well anything is worth a try.  i did totally "RE-FLASHED" the board with the latest COLIBRI- RACE  firmware 3.3.0 and re calibrated the esc's out side of trying a new motor im lost 
i will try what you said ... thanks GPM......  JD