Posts: 5,323 Threads: 674 Likes Received: 3,161 in 1,748 posts Likes Given: 2,034 Joined: Jan 2016 Reputation: 139 In case anyone is wondering the spec and features... I am putting together a post, will try to keep this updated as I learn more: https://oscarliang.com/orqa-fpv-one-goggles/ Posts: 1,013 Threads: 11 Likes Received: 452 in 349 posts Likes Given: 372 Joined: Dec 2017 Reputation: 16 Very disappointed that they've decided to remove the eye relief. • Posts: 2,416 Threads: 51 Likes Received: 1,861 in 1,175 posts Likes Given: 3,315 Joined: Mar 2016 Reputation: 74 I've got the original EV100's that had the "focus" thing. It was the main reason I got them. I wear glasses and I was hoping it was the solution to my having to use box goggles. Well, it was not quite enough. They left off slots for diopters, so I couldn't correct them enough to use them. (I think they were wise to forget the focus and add diopter slots on the EV200D.) The ORAQ's have slots, and I already have my prescription diopters, so I am really looking forward these! And my house closes in February, so I might even be able to splurge a little and get some! • Posts: 21,333 Threads: 590 Likes Received: 9,001 in 6,662 posts Likes Given: 1,426 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 790 10-Jan-2019, 07:19 PM (This post was last modified: 10-Jan-2019, 07:20 PM by SnowLeopardFPV. Edit Reason: Typo corrections. ) JB's full edited video below including a one-to-one hands on of the goggles and a full personal interview with the Orqa guys. Lots of references as to how it wasn't possible to make the goggles for a low cost and how high the cost of the OLED panels were, hinting at the fact that these are undoubtedly going to be the most expensive goggles on the market when they eventually hit the shelves. Then the strapline comes out that they will not be cheaper than the most expensive goggles currently on the market which we all know are the HDOs, so that pretty much confirms a $500+ price tag. Plus shipping costs from central Europe of course. • Posts: 2,416 Threads: 51 Likes Received: 1,861 in 1,175 posts Likes Given: 3,315 Joined: Mar 2016 Reputation: 74 10-Jan-2019, 09:13 PM (This post was last modified: 10-Jan-2019, 09:15 PM by sloscotty.) If they are as good as it looks like they are, how much would you pay? $550? $600? More?... (I really want these...) • Posts: 21,333 Threads: 590 Likes Received: 9,001 in 6,662 posts Likes Given: 1,426 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 790 (10-Jan-2019, 09:13 PM)sloscotty Wrote: If they are as good as it looks like they are, how much would you pay? $550? $600? More?... (I really want these...) IMO, googles are probably THE single most important item of equipment in the FPV hobby. This hobby is supposed to be fun so if you don't get a good picture it can make for a miserable experience. I bought HDOs because I wanted the best visuals that were available at the time without compromise to ensure I remained in the hobby. If I didn't have HDOs I would almost certainly be looking to get some of these, assuming they really do turn out to be as good as they currently appear to be. I stand by my original guestimate of $500-600. If they try and sell them for much more than that then I think they will kill some of the interest and will have missed a golden opportunity. IMO. I reckon it's going to be another 6 months before they become readily available anyway, so plenty of time to start putting away $100 per month Posts: 3,533 Threads: 265 Likes Received: 2,610 in 1,545 posts Likes Given: 3,893 Joined: Feb 2018 Reputation: 78 10-Jan-2019, 11:10 PM (This post was last modified: 10-Jan-2019, 11:10 PM by Krohsis.) If you check out the forums....most are thrilled with the prospects of these goggles. But almost 100% say they won't pay over 500.00 for them. They better get their price point dialed in. As a side note, I find it quizzical and funny that the same people who won't but a quality motor or quibble over 20.00 more for a reciever are cocked and locked to drop 50-75% more on goggles for 20% improvement.... funny.... • Posts: 1,312 Threads: 50 Likes Received: 832 in 504 posts Likes Given: 372 Joined: Jul 2018 Reputation: 51 (10-Jan-2019, 11:10 PM)Krohsis Wrote: As a side note, I find it quizzical and funny that the same people who won't but a quality motor or quibble over 20.00 more for a reciever are cocked and locked to drop 50-75% more on goggles for 20% improvement.... funny.... I don't smash my goggles into trees at 30mph ;-) The ground is for dead people. Posts: 3,533 Threads: 265 Likes Received: 2,610 in 1,545 posts Likes Given: 3,893 Joined: Feb 2018 Reputation: 78 (10-Jan-2019, 11:21 PM)Banelle Wrote: I don't smash my goggles into trees at 30mph ;-) That is a whole other issue there....and I doubt 700.00 goggles will help you with that... • Posts: 5,323 Threads: 674 Likes Received: 3,161 in 1,748 posts Likes Given: 2,034 Joined: Jan 2016 Reputation: 139 11-Jan-2019, 12:21 AM (This post was last modified: 11-Jan-2019, 12:25 AM by Oscar.) There is a market for it even if it's priced at $700, if they are indeed better than the HDO. Think about how many people actually buy a GoPro hero 7 and smash that against buildings and trees And how much longer the goggles are going to last. But it's interesting how they want to release the top end product before making cheaper ones... It's like.. okay we we are going to learn from the flaws/mistake we will make in our expensive product and fix them in our cheaper products LOL • Posts: 21,333 Threads: 590 Likes Received: 9,001 in 6,662 posts Likes Given: 1,426 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 790 11-Jan-2019, 12:32 AM (This post was last modified: 11-Jan-2019, 12:38 AM by SnowLeopardFPV. Edit Reason: Added paragraph about support & repair. ) (11-Jan-2019, 12:21 AM)Oscar Wrote: There is a market for it even if it's priced at $700, if they are indeed better than the HDO. Think about how many people actually buy a GoPro hero 7 and smash that against buildings and trees And how much longer the goggles are going to last. Yes, true I think lot of the people who have any serious interest in these will grumble and groan about the price until the cows come home, but then at the end of the day those same people will still just go out and buy them anyway even if they remain at what is deemed to be an extortionate price point However, if ORQA are clever and they do truly want to steal any potential Fatshark customers, they are going to need to price the FPV.One as close to the HDOs as they can possibly get away with while still making some profit, but without getting too greedy. There is also still the question over support and repair. Fatshark have a number of service centres across the globe that you can send your goggles to (and at fairly cheap shipping costs) in the event of an issue and have them repaired and returned in a reasonable time frame. ORQA on the other had say they are only going to operate out of Croatia. So if someone in the US has an issue with their goggles then getting them repaired is likely going to prove an expensive (shipping costs) and lengthy process. • Posts: 5,323 Threads: 674 Likes Received: 3,161 in 1,748 posts Likes Given: 2,034 Joined: Jan 2016 Reputation: 139 11-Jan-2019, 01:22 AM (This post was last modified: 11-Jan-2019, 01:24 AM by Oscar.) (11-Jan-2019, 12:32 AM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: There is also still the question over support and repair. Fatshark have a number of service centres across the globe that you can send your goggles to (and at fairly cheap shipping costs) in the event of an issue and have them repaired and returned in a reasonable time frame. ORQA on the other had say they are only going to operate out of Croatia. So if someone in the US has an issue with their goggles then getting them repaired is likely going to prove an expensive (shipping costs) and lengthy process. I sent my goggles to one of those Fatshark repair centers last year. From my experience, I don't believe they are actually employed by Fatshark. Fatshark probably just outsources the repair service to local third parties. (The address I sent my goggles to was along the line "XXX electronics repair shop"... ) So if that's the case, it's not impossible for them to setup repair centre network around the global just like Fatshark. But Fatshark has spent years setting this network up, and it's not going to happen overnight for ORQA. Posts: 12,098 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 Posts: 3,533 Threads: 265 Likes Received: 2,610 in 1,545 posts Likes Given: 3,893 Joined: Feb 2018 Reputation: 78 I was reading a review about these goggles and the author brought up a good point. Goggle tech has reached a quasi plateau (his opinion, not mine), and improvements for another 200.00 likely aren't really worth it as the Fatsharks are so good right now(again his opinion). The author thought efforts to create an FPV cam that has a HD quality image with low latency was where the FPV system needed help, and efforts should be spent there. I agree that a noticeable weak link in the FPV system is the FPV cam. The FPV cams are getting better, but still no one seems to be trying to improve the image to HD levels. • Posts: 12,098 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 (20-Jan-2019, 04:14 PM)Krohsis Wrote: I was reading a review about these goggles and the author brought up a good point. Goggle tech has reached a quasi plateau (his opinion, not mine), and improvements for another 200.00 likely aren't really worth it as the Fatsharks are so good right now(again his opinion). The author thought efforts to create an FPV cam that has a HD quality image with low latency was where the FPV system needed help, and efforts should be spent there. I agree that a noticeable weak link in the FPV system is the FPV cam. The FPV cams are getting better, but still no one seems to be trying to improve the image to HD levels. I have to agree with your comment. I recently bought a HDO to replace my Dom 3. I can say, although there is improvement, I didn't think it was worth it for me. I have to disagree that camera is the weak link. I think it is the transmission (VTX) that is the weak link. Camera can already get to 1200tvl with little latency. HD quality transmission requires processing, which adds to latency. • |