Discussion New DJI FPV products for 2021 - Discussion thread

[SnowLeopardFPV]

There is also talk that DJI may possibly be planning to hold back selling their FPV Goggles as a separately purchasable item for a period of time to force people into buying their complete FPV Drone package if they want the goggles.

[Enrico79]

There is also talk that DJI may possibly be planning to hold back selling their FPV Goggles as a separately purchasable item for a period of time to force people into buying their complete FPV Drone package if they want the goggles.

Ahah what a joke. 
Snow i sent you pvt msg

[SnowLeopardFPV]

If DJI do actually do that I think they will end up alienating a lot of the FPV community. I saw a couple of comments suggesting that they may have just used the FPV community as a "test rig" to prove their FPV Goggle technology so they could then move it solely for use with their proprietary products such as this FPV Drone. I really hope that isn't true because it would be a travesty for the whole FPV community.

[Enrico79]

If DJI do actually do that I think they will end up alienating a lot of the FPV community. I saw a couple of comments suggesting that they may have just used the FPV community as a "test rig" to prove their FPV Goggle technology so they could then move it solely for use with their proprietary products such as this FPV Drone. I really hope that isn't true because it would be a travesty for the whole FPV community.

Ye a did read that theory too, but honestly it sounds a bit conspiracy. DJI has a solid contract with Caddx and they already sold milions of  air units \ caddx vista, there is no way they can decide to block all those devices via firmware , unless they want to face the biggest lawsuit in human history

Nonetheless is very likely they will try to push their proprietary prodcuts, like selling v2 googles only in combo for months... and i'm sure they will have some features ready to work with the googles , like their own OSD screen super cool etc etc..

Also, let me point out this. Now we're all watching at DJI as they are the only owner of this digital technology, but in the next future i'm pretty sure other Companies will be able to produce their own digital system of the same level , and then we won't speak about DJI anymore. Once a technology is invented, sooner or later someone will be able to copy it.

[SnowLeopardFPV]

Yes, everyone is making lots of wild guesses at the moment but any or all of them are potentially valid. All we can do is sit back and watch to see what unfolds.

Time to buy as may DJI Air Units and Caddx Vista's that you can afford before they all get discontinued, never to be sold again 

[Enrico79]

Yes, everyone is making lots of wild guesses at the moment but any or all of them are potentially valid. All we can do is sit back and watch to see what unfolds.

Time to buy as may DJI Air Units and Caddx Vista's that you can afford before they all get discontinued, never to be sold again 

Nah Bro,  discontuining Caddx Vista and Air Units on purpose, DJI would have to face a big lawsuite and they would lose their face forever. I don't think this is the case

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Yes, everyone is making lots of wild guesses at the moment but any or all of them are potentially valid. All we can do is sit back and watch to see what unfolds.

Time to buy as may DJI Air Units and Caddx Vista's that you can afford before they all get discontinued, never to be sold again 

Nah Bro,  discontuining Caddx Vista and Air Units on purpose, DJI would have to face a big lawsuite and they would lose their face forever. I don't think this is the case Also, Air Units are already their property products ... and i think there is a air unit inside that plastic fpv drone they are ready to release

[SnowLeopardFPV]

Someone who is currently under an NDA and can't discuss anything in detail has given away a few hints that the new DJI FPV Goggles V2 are indeed the ones included with the DJI FPV Drone and that the casing is the same as the V1's. No OLED screens and most of the changes made are to support the new FPV Drone with any changes for the existing FPV System we use to be minimal with no changes expected to the current hardware (Air Unit / Vista). There is also a hint of the new V2 goggles supporting dual band 720/1080p as opposed to just single band 720p as per the current V1 goggles, but likely only for the new Air Unit technology in the DJI FPV Drone and not for the existing standalone Air Unit / Caddx Vista units. No major updates are expected to the current standalone DJI FPV system any time soon.

That is all I know for now. If I hear anything more I will of course post it here.

[jasperfpv]

Boohoo ....was hoping for a slim V2 with more fancy update.

[SnowLeopardFPV]

Yes, I think it's fairly clear that DJI are pushing forward with this technology mainly for the benefit of their own products. The FPV market is tiny compared to camera drone market and with the implementation of tougher regulations and things like Remote ID the FPV market is getting even smaller so they make virtually no decent profit margins from it.

Maybe our hobby wasn't used purely as a "test rig" to prove their products per se, but I certainly think they intentionally entered into our hobby space to help them further test and develop their product so they could then be confident enough to launch it into one of their own product ranges knowing full well it was a proven and working technology which could then be opened to the masses (aka all of the DJI camera Drone fanboys).

Based on what we now know I also think it is unlikely that will be native HDMI out from the V2 goggles. DJI will very likely just continue to cash in on sales of the Smart Controller for people who want 3rd parties to view the footage in real-time. It also makes sense why they are paying people off or threatening legal action to shut down any 3rd party who is trying to develop HDMI out capabilities for the V1 goggles. If the V2 goggles had native HDMI out then why would they care about that or bother wasting time, effort and money trying to shut those projects down.

Maybe in another 18-24 months time we will see V3 goggles that look vastly different and have more FPV related features, but I think it fairly clear that the "real" FPV community will probably now be second in line to their own products for any new products, features and enhancements.

[jasperfpv]

Yeah , you are most probably right about V2 not having the HDMI out, may be initially anyway. The cross over new buyers from DJI Mavic market would be enoigh to drive the V2 sales without the need of this sought after and other upgraded features.

I can wait for V3 and I just hope they will continue to throw us some crumps and update our Goggles/Air Unit along the way.

[SnowLeopardFPV]

A bit more info has come to light about the V2 goggles. Someone close to DJI has stated that the V2 goggles are essentially just the V1 goggles with some slight internal changes needed because of issues that were raised by the FCC, thus making the V1 goggles no longer fully FCC compliant which is why production of the V1 goggles ceased. The new goggles have been given a different SKU because of this apparent internal change and thus a new "V2" label to go with them so they can be distinguished from the original V1's because otherwise externally both versions look the same. They probably also took that opportunity to add some hardware upgrade compatibility changes solely to support their new FPV Drone. All of this would also go some way to explaining why there have been no changes whatsoever to the design of the goggle casing for the V2, not even any cosmetic updates which is pretty unusual because DJI have always changed something about the look of new versions of their products (even minor refreshes of exising products) so you can immediately visually distinguish older and newer versions from each other.

So in a nutshell, it looks like what is being said here is that the V2 goggles are just the V1 goggles with some minor internal changes mainly for FCC compliance reasons.

[Banelle]

So in a nutshell, it looks like what is being said here is that the V2 goggles are just the V1 goggles with some minor internal changes mainly for FCC compliance reasons.

Or for ruh-roh-people-keep-cracking-our-HDMI-out reasons.

EDIT: just realised someone made that point already. I'm late to the party as usual!

[joey]

Hey as a dji goggles owner I don't think there is much more room for improvement honestly they are great I don't see any reason at Least at this point to buy the v2 the term FCC compliant only sounds like

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They have a limit on what they can. Do

[joey]

I feel the same if oh well ed screens are the only improvement then I'm sticking they can save all that fancy 4k blah blah for their slow moving drones cause when Im out flying around the only image that matters is were I'm going heading that gap I'm about to fly thru yada yada its hard to focus on that and the crystal clear digital 4k image of the sky or mountains in the back ground but that being said ive never seen my drone hit the ground on the dji goggles it happens so fast that my video will cut out (assuming its bad enough crash )feet before actually impact so even tho I have never noticed the delay thats just proof I'm crashing before I even know it one time when I busted the pin connector off the air unit trying to master small tight power loops and well I miss judged and smacked the ground I was trying to save it and apparently I did in enough time to bounce off the ground in the front yard and land in the back yard I searched my front yard for 30mins becasue that happened so fast the save reaction was well just that a reflex tho I couldn't see I went thru the motions when video didn't come right back I disarmed all in a matter of seconds of course and somehow ended up in the backyard

[SnowLeopardFPV]

The new DJI FPV Drone won't be streaming 4K to the new V2 goggles. It will be 1080p at most, but more likely still only 720p like the V1 goggles. The 4K video will come from an updated "Air Unit" onboard the DJI FPV Drone. If DJI were to bring a new standalone Air Unit and camera to our market with the same 4K recording capabilities then there might be some interest from people who want to record their FPV flights in more than 1080p without having to carry a GoPro on their quad.