Posts: 21,271 Threads: 587 Likes Received: 8,970 in 6,638 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 788 27-Jun-2019, 05:20 PM (This post was last modified: 28-Jun-2019, 09:29 AM by SnowLeopardFPV. Edit Reason: Corrected the spelling of IBCrazy's real name. ) Oh dear. It seems that JB and a few others have been kicked out of the TBS Lounge for revealing some truths and asking some awkward questions about the new TBS Aerum Polar antenna...
This all stems from a previous video where Alex Greve (IBCrazy) did some tests on the antenna using lab grade equipment...
![[-]](https://intofpv.com/images/collapse.png) • Posts: 5,323 Threads: 674 Likes Received: 3,160 in 1,747 posts Likes Given: 2,032 Joined: Jan 2016 Reputation: 139 Looks like I have been out of the hobby for too long, didn't even hear about this antenna until now. It's very brave of JB to speak out on the matter, like many other products in FPV, the hype is built on purely marketing and words  • Posts: 3,533 Threads: 265 Likes Received: 2,610 in 1,545 posts Likes Given: 3,893 Joined: Feb 2018 Reputation: 78 I'm not surprised. As I have said on this forum before, I have caught Trappy lying and telling half truths in the past. His content of character is mediocre, and he is his own worst enemy at times. Why he thinks he can do the things he does in a community as small as FPV is odd to me. He has to know there will be negative repercussions to his behavior, with him having experienced that several times in the past.
Oh well, even though he has numerous personal warts, most of his products are awesome and in a league of their own. If someone made a product as good or better than his, I likely would move on because of his issues. But nobody does, so for now I won't let his issues affect my purchasing of his apex products.
Posts: 5,323 Threads: 674 Likes Received: 3,160 in 1,747 posts Likes Given: 2,032 Joined: Jan 2016 Reputation: 139 27-Jun-2019, 06:22 PM (This post was last modified: 27-Jun-2019, 06:33 PM by Oscar.) Kicking people out of your group because they have different opinions is understandable, but why would you kick someone with so many followers like JB... would most likely cause some drama...
Or maybe that's what he wants, drama.
It seems like nowadays nearly all the drama that comes out of FPV are TBS and Rotorriot related .. Coincidence? • Posts: 21,271 Threads: 587 Likes Received: 8,970 in 6,638 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 788 I watched the video when there were only 2 or 3 comments under it. Now there are well over 100 and it's clear to see what the general consensus is from the FPV community. Posts: 1,312 Threads: 50 Likes Received: 832 in 504 posts Likes Given: 372 Joined: Jul 2018 Reputation: 51 Do you think they'll stop selling Triumphs, since IBCrazy designed them? At what point does narcissistic sociopathy trump business sense?
I wish there was a real contender to Crossfire, because it's the only TBS product I'm half interested in but I really *really* don't want to give them money.
The ground is for dead people. • Posts: 21,271 Threads: 587 Likes Received: 8,970 in 6,638 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 788 28-Jun-2019, 11:05 AM (This post was last modified: 28-Jun-2019, 11:10 AM by SnowLeopardFPV.) The "discussion" is in the following Facebook link. A screenshot snippet is also attached for anyone without a FB account which shows the moment that Trappy kicked JB out of the group. Those who speak out against the establishment shall be SILENCED!!! Even if JB had reached out to TBS beforehand, I don't see what difference it would have made. TBS were (and still are) clearly mis-marketing a product in the hope that people without any understanding will just jump on the hype train and hand over their $25 thinking they are getting the best short range FPV goggle antenna since sliced bread. https://www.facebook.com/groups/BlackSheepLOUNGE/permalink/628426004309840 ![[Image: eXHmzbF.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/eXHmzbF.jpg) • Posts: 3,533 Threads: 265 Likes Received: 2,610 in 1,545 posts Likes Given: 3,893 Joined: Feb 2018 Reputation: 78 The only way this will be settled properly is to have someone with the appropriate test equipment do a side by side comparison of the new antenna against some established performers. An anecdotal field test might suffice for some, but bench testing should put it all to rest. At this point I believe JB over Trappy. JB's credibility has never been challenged or put into question that I know of.
I don't have a horse in this race as I would never buy that antenna. But it would be nice to see how it performs.
Posts: 1,013 Threads: 11 Likes Received: 452 in 349 posts Likes Given: 372 Joined: Dec 2017 Reputation: 16 The message from the designers seems to say that it was designed for the higher end receivers(Fusion, Rapidfire, True D-X, because they have the ability to combine the two signals? Hmm, don't know if that is true but maybe they should of said that from the start? • Posts: 88 Threads: 6 Likes Received: 11 in 11 posts Likes Given: 31 Joined: Apr 2019 Reputation: 0 (28-Jun-2019, 03:50 PM)Sugs Wrote: The message from the designers seems to say that it was designed for the higher end receivers(Fusion, Rapidfire, True D-X, because they have the ability to combine the two signals? Hmm, don't know if that is true but maybe they should of said that from the start? Yes and no.... Im not an RF expert by any means but I watched Bardwell’s videos and he stated that this/these antennas are MIMO and out FPV equipment uses MISO. MIMO is great but there apparently isn’t a large enough market in the FPV community to switch all the FPV hardware to MIMO. • Posts: 21,271 Threads: 587 Likes Received: 8,970 in 6,638 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 788 (29-Jun-2019, 03:09 AM)J_tillman Wrote: Yes and no....
Im not an RF expert by any means but I watched Bardwell’s videos and he stated that this/these antennas are MIMO and out FPV equipment uses MISO. MIMO is great but there apparently isn’t a large enough market in the FPV community to switch all the FPV hardware to MIMO. This is correct. The technologies used in rapidFIRE, ClearView, and the other modules that stitch / repair signals together from two separate sources have nothing to do with MIMO and they don't use such technology. The designers of the Aerum Polar appear to have misunderstood the technology used by those modules, thinking it was MIMO when it's not. • |
