Posts: 67 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Aug 2020 Reputation: 0 Hey SnowLeopard - guess what I woke up to this morning?? Shipping confirmation!! And as luck would have it, I have a little extra funds to make my next order with. Currently I have the buzzer in my cart and I definitely need your help l for the thing to connect my goggles to the quad. The smoke stopped you recommended was out of stock, but what do you think of this one? https://www.racedayquads.com/products/jh...b25b&_ss=r ![[-]](https://intofpv.com/images/collapse.png) • Posts: 21,397 Threads: 593 Likes Received: 9,029 in 6,683 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 795 (21-Aug-2020, 09:28 AM)Yank12 Wrote: The smoke stopped you recommended was out of stock, but what do you think of this one?
https://www.racedayquads.com/products/jh...b25b&_ss=r Nope. That is a polyfuse based smokestopper. They are useless because the polyfuse doesn't trip fast enough. An alternative option you have is to make your own automotive bulb based smokestopper. See the following article on how to do that... https://oscarliang.com/smoke-stopper • Posts: 67 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Aug 2020 Reputation: 0 oh yea. I think I can definitely do that! • Posts: 67 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Aug 2020 Reputation: 0 I did some reading this morning about connecting my goggles to my drone. What do you think of this one for my HDOs? https://www.racedayquads.com/products/im...a61e&_ss=r • Posts: 21,397 Threads: 593 Likes Received: 9,029 in 6,683 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 795 (21-Aug-2020, 01:06 PM)Yank12 Wrote: What do you think of this one for my HDOs?
https://www.racedayquads.com/products/im...a61e&_ss=r It depends on your budget. There are also cheaper diversity only options if you want to spend a bit less like the AKK HERE or the FuriousFPV True-D 4.0 HERE. You might also want to have a read of the following thread... https://intofpv.com/t-tbs-fusion-vs-imme...-rapidfire And the following video is worth a watch too... • Posts: 67 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Aug 2020 Reputation: 0 Thats a neat video - I feel like the wildfire has better quality, but the rapid-fire definitely held onto the picture a lot harder.
Money isnt an issue. I want this to work well, and for a long time. • Posts: 21,397 Threads: 593 Likes Received: 9,029 in 6,683 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 795 I would probably go with the RapidFIRE or the Fusion. I'm not sure if you read the other thread I linked to but JB's video from that thread is also below. I went with the Fusion because I already partially committed myself to the TBS ecosystem so it made sense to also get their module. Be aware that if you consider the Fusion then you will need to do the power mod on the HDO's if you want to run the Fusion WiFi module on them (details are in that same thread). The RapidFIRE module doesn't have WiFi so you don't need to do the power mod for HDO's, unless you run into low power issues.
• Posts: 67 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Aug 2020 Reputation: 0 I was actually just watching that video on the other thread - I'm listening the end of it now
I think the Rapid fire did a bit better than the fusion - there seemed to be less "rolling" of the video (i think I'm using that new term right! lol)
I have slid a rapid-fire into my cart - my drone has got red on it anyway, so I can deal with the "garish red" of the mod. :-p
I live in an extremely wooded part of NC (my town has 3000 people in it) so I wont be flying around concrete structures much, or metal, which seemed to challenge the rapidfire.
I'm not sure what you are talking about with WiFi, I googled it, and got a whole ton of results without knowing what's relevant. lol I dont have WiFi at my house, so I wont be able to piggyback off of that for flying if thats what you mean.
I like your goggles, they look neat. • Posts: 67 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Aug 2020 Reputation: 0 I've got another question for you...
I have 2 Triumpth antennas by Team blacksheep (though mine are orange) one for the quad, and one for the goggles. I believe they are "right hand". The Rapdifire (as well as others) appear to have 2 antenna jacks. it sorta sounds like in the video that one is for when you are flying far, and one is for when you are flying close, and the goggles combine the signal into 1 picture that you can actually comprehend.
Do I need to scrap my Triumpths? Do I need to pick up another little "patch" antenna? for the bottom jack?
Do you have any more good reading for me to do about this subject? LOL • Posts: 21,397 Threads: 593 Likes Received: 9,029 in 6,683 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 795 (21-Aug-2020, 02:26 PM)Yank12 Wrote: I'm not sure what you are talking about with WiFi, I googled it, and got a whole ton of results without knowing what's relevant. lol I dont have WiFi at my house, so I wont be able to piggyback off of that for flying if thats what you mean. The WiFi module allows you to make use of the TBS Cloud. You connect all your TBS devices to your mobile phone hotspot when out in the field (or to your router if you're at home) and all of the WiFi enabled TBS devices can then talk to each other. For instance, change the VTX channel on your goggles and it will automatically change the channel on your VTX via the TBS Cloud. No need to mess around in LUA scripts on the transmitter, the CMS menu of your goggles, or the manual buttons on the VTX itself. This is just the first of many features that TBS say the TBS Cloud will start to implement as time goes on. • Posts: 67 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Aug 2020 Reputation: 0 (21-Aug-2020, 03:00 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: The WiFi module allows you to make use of the TBS Cloud. You connect all your TBS devices to your mobile phone hotspot when out in the field (or to your router if you're at home) and all of the WiFi enabled TBS devices can then talk to each other. For instance, change the VTX channel on your goggles and it will automatically change the channel on your VTX via the TBS Cloud. No need to mess around in LUA scripts on the transmitter, the CMS menu of your goggles, or the manual buttons on the VTX itself. This is just the first of many features that TBS say the TBS Cloud will start to implement as time goes on. ahhhh I'm with ya. thats very cool. • Posts: 21,397 Threads: 593 Likes Received: 9,029 in 6,683 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 795 (21-Aug-2020, 02:44 PM)Yank12 Wrote: I have 2 Triumpth antennas by Team blacksheep (though mine are orange) one for the quad, and one for the goggles. I believe they are "right hand". The Rapdifire (as well as others) appear to have 2 antenna jacks. it sorta sounds like in the video that one is for when you are flying far, and one is for when you are flying close, and the goggles combine the signal into 1 picture that you can actually comprehend.
Do I need to scrap my Triumpths? Do I need to pick up another little "patch" antenna? for the bottom jack? If you are using a module that uses technology to stitch/combine the pictures from both antennas, it is best to use the same type of antennas to get the best performance out of them (either both omni antennas of the same, or both patch antennas of the same). An omni and a patch will still work, but the image fusing optimisation doesn't work quite as well with that antenna setup. With a standard diversity setup (not the image fusing technology) people use an omni and a patch because the module only uses one of the antennas at a time and the module will use the one with the strongest signal, so when you are flying close by of to the side / behind you it will use the omni, and when you are flying further out in front of you it will use the patch. Both the RapidFIRE and Fusion have the ability to use standard diversity mode if you want. On the RapidFIRE it is called "Legacy Mode" and on the Fusion it is called "Oldschool Mode". If you are doing proximity flying, your two Triumph omni antennas will be fine. • Posts: 67 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Aug 2020 Reputation: 0 (21-Aug-2020, 03:18 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: If you are using a module that uses technology to stitch/combine the pictures from both antennas, it is best to use the same type of antennas to get the best performance out of them (either both omni antennas of the same, or both patch antennas of the same). An omni and a patch will still work, but the image fusing optimisation doesn't work quite as well with that antenna setup.
With a standard diversity setup (not the image fusing technology) people use an omni and a patch because the module only uses one of the antennas at a time and the module will use the one with the strongest signal, so when you are flying close by of to the side / behind you it will use the omni, and when you are flying further out in front of you it will use the patch. Both the RapidFIRE and Fusion have the ability to use standard diversity mode if you want. On the RapidFIRE it is called "Legacy Mode" and on the Fusion it is called "Oldschool Mode".
If you are doing proximity flying, your two Triumph omni antennas will be fine. Alright, maybe I'm understanding wrong, but that seemed like a contradiction. The rapidfire has this "legacy mode" which benefits from an omni and a patch (in that I can fly 360 degrees around me) but then you said that just my 2 antennas will be fine? • Posts: 21,397 Threads: 593 Likes Received: 9,029 in 6,683 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 795 An omni antenna (if it is high enough above your head) will cover a 360 degree area, but not out to a very far distance. The patch will only cover a narrow area in the direction that the patch is pointing (usually out in front of you) but it will cover a much greater range in that coverage area than an omni.
I fly proximity in front and behind me at close range, and sometimes I fly further out in front of me. I never fly the same distance to the side of behind me because I know my patch antenna can't cover those areas, and my omni antenna which does cover those areas doesn't have the same distance as the patch.
If you are going to use two omni's then you should make use of the image stitching/combining technology ("Mode 1" or "Mode 2" on the RapidFIRE, or "Fusion Mode" on the Fusion). With two omni's you won't be able to fly out as far in front of you compared to if you used two patches. But if you use two patches you won't be able to (easily) fly out to the side or behind you. • Posts: 67 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Aug 2020 Reputation: 0 I dont know what I'm going to use lol... I googled the stuff on your goggles from the thread you sent - thats a RHCP antenna, AND a patch. You seem to know what you're talking about, so I'm going to shamelessly copy you until I can stand on my own feet here.  If I put one of my Triumpths on my head, and another on my drone, do I need to do the same with a patch? • |
