Same here. I now no longer have any external FrSky receivers on any of my quads. My current larger quads are all Crossfire equipped and any new smaller quads will be having an ExpressLRS receiver installed in them. I only have two whoops left running the FrSky D8 protocol on their built-in SPI receivers and the 75mm 2S one will likely be having a ceramic antenna ELRS receiver installed in it if I can manage to cram one under the canopy. My 65mm 1S whoop will likely just remain on the FrSky D8 protocol.

How is the Namimno working for you?
It really looks like ELRS is taking over and unlike some brands it works with betaflight.
I’m trying Ghost and it’s so far no problem but until I jump to betaflight 4.3 I have no telemetry or lau script with betaflight.
With HDZero and analog FPV integrating with ELRS it’s almost a no-brainer.
TBS has never let me down and I may try their new 500mw telemetry receiver.
Supposed to stop sensor loss.
I still haven’t used FrSky Access internal module and I don’t think the Access/AccstD16 receivers ever did work properly.
Ideally I’d like to get a Radio Master with ELRS internal module but it adds up quick and taranis has served it’s purpose.Good Opentx radio with good gimbals.

(08-May-2022, 03:07 PM)Rob3ddd Wrote: How is the Namimno working for you?
 It really looks like ELRS is taking over and unlike some brands it works with betaflight.
I’m trying Ghost and it’s so far no problem but until I jump to betaflight 4.3 I have no telemetry or lau script with betaflight.
 With HDZero and analog FPV integrating with ELRS it’s almost a no-brainer.
TBS has never let me down and I may try their new 500mw telemetry receiver.
 Supposed to stop sensor loss.
I still haven’t used FrSky Access internal module and I don’t think the Access/AccstD16 receivers ever did work properly.
 Ideally I’d like to get a Radio Master with ELRS internal module but it adds up quick and taranis has served it’s purpose.Good Opentx radio with good gimbals.

I haven't managed to fly the GEPRC Phantom yet and that is the only quad I have fitted with an ELRS receiver. I don't have a big enough back yard to even be able to fly a micro quad in so I have to make an effort to actually go somewhere suitable where there is no people but I just haven't managed to do that yet. The usual place I take my 5" quads is just way too big and overgrown to fly a micro quad. If I ended up having a failsafe I would likely never find it in the undergrowth. I need to go somewhere a bit more friendly that is maintained, but when no people are there which can be a bit of a challenge.

I'm probably just going to continue using Crossfire receivers on my 5" quads, even new ones I build. My intention with ELRS was to use it on micro quads where a 900MHz antenna is just way too large, as is a Crossfire receiver. The tiny EP receivers and small T mount (or ceramic) antennas are ideal for micro quads. That is where I see ELRS working best, for me.

How far out do you fly? Do you actually need 500mW telemetry? Telemetry on the standard (non-Pro) Crossfire Nano RX works for a distance of up to 10-15km, so unless you are planning on flying further than that then the 500mW Pro version is an overkill. You shouldn't be getting sensor lost issues if flying just a few kilometres from yourself with the standard Nano RX.

(09-May-2022, 12:05 AM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: I haven't managed to fly the GEPRC Phantom yet and that is the only quad I have fitted with an ELRS receiver. I don't have a big enough back yard to even be able to fly a micro quad in so I have to make an effort to actually go somewhere suitable where there is no people but I just haven't managed to do that yet. The usual place I take my 5" quads is just way too big and overgrown to fly a micro quad. If I ended up having a failsafe I would likely never find it in the undergrowth. I need to go somewhere a bit more friendly that is maintained, but when no people are there which can be a bit of a challenge.

Do you have no bando's close to you? Or even just a bit of wasteland away from everyone?

I have scoped out a handful of places around my area that would suit for indoor flying, but abandoned buildings aren't as available now as they were 20 years ago.

(09-May-2022, 08:06 PM)Pathfinder075 Wrote: Do you have no bando's close to you?  Or even just a bit of wasteland away from everyone?

I have scoped out a handful of places around my area that would suit for indoor flying, but abandoned buildings aren't as available now as they were 20 years ago.

Nothing like bandos anywhere round here. There are only but a handful of those in the UK that are accessible without active security and/or which are completely fenced off / sealed up. Unfortunately "health and safety" bureaucracy in the UK has put pay to accessing those sort of places.

I'm currently flying my 5" quads in some fields which are being eroded away day by day with a new housing development that is going to fill all the fields that I currently use, so it's only a matter of time before those will get completely fenced off and become inaccessible. There is now manned security on part of the site where I used to fly instead of just Armadillos (see HERE and HERE) so I have to be extra careful as to when and where I fly there so as not to get caught.

Unless you are willing to take a risk by flying over farmland where you will unlikely get your quad back if it goes down, trying to find suitable places to fly which is well away from people is quite a struggle round here.

Through watching a couple of Youtube channels for local FPV'ers, I found a handful of local bandos around here, but I'm up North. As you said if you are following the letter of the law, you can't do most things. If you skirt the grey areas, you can do a bit. I intend to do both. Since I will be flying sub 250g, I will be able to skirt around things, probably a little easier.

The best open place near me is a large capped rubbish dump, maybe 3-4 football fields in size. Clay capped, so ideal for flying, but very open. Also some old industrial nearby as well. The best part is no roads go to it and its rough terrain, since its capped, no one ever goes there.

I also know of a few places from my Urbex days. Most are still usable. Have a look at 28dayslater and you might be able to find some Urbex places you could fly. I suppose it depends where you are. I've seen people flying in parks around here and we have a few in the city. Some are seriously large. I also know of a couple of places in Wales, mostly in the bit up near Aberystwyth.

Generally the older the bando and the more abandoned, the less likely that any active security will exist. The ones i know of have been abandoned for 20+ years and have zero chance of ever being redeveloped due to being listed buildings, which means they will sit forever and rot, which is good for Urbex and possibly drone pilots.

Anyway I wish you luck with finding places to fly. I did consider setting up a database of places to fly. I don't think anything like that exists at present. Along with what to expect at each site, hazards, layout, etc, maybe even a short video. Probably put on a site with a password needed to access it. Maybe done as a wiki so people can edit and add new ones. But that's for the future.

I'm down south in probably one of the worst places to be for flying quads. It probably explains why I never see anyone else flying a quad and why there don't seem to be any flying clubs in the vicinity. The area is either just too densely populated or is filled with private farmland which is full of crops or livestock. Any abandon buildings or land just gets snapped up and re-developed. There is virtually no open public space that you can easily fly at safely or without the risk of upsetting someone, so you either need to find a friendly local farmer who will let you use their land with permission, or you take your chance and fly by stealth in the hope that your quad doesn't go down on private land and/or you don't get approached by anyone.

I used to fly at a local park but the drone haters came along and after a few confrontations I just decided to stop flying there. It would be an ideal place to take my GEPRC Phantom but it's probably best if I just try to look for somewhere else to fly it where I actually stand some chance of finding it if I crash or failsafe (i.e. not the area I currently fly my 5" quads in which is covered in waist high scraggle).

Yeah I once lived in Horsham, long ago. That place would be a nightmare to find anywhere to fly. Absolutely nowhere I can think of. Not to mention the people had their heads buried up their asses, with that entitled attitude to life. I'm glad I moved back up here.

I think the, build as many houses as possible, strategy will come back to bite them in the ass, but that's the South for you. Up here there are quite a few places to fly, but my city is still full of pretty old buildings and development has stalled in the last few years due to Covid, Brexit, and the generally shakey financial situation. A consortium built around 500 student/professional studio flats in one of the city centre areas and roughly 90% of them still lay empty. They built a high rise which was supposed to be a 5 star hotel and it's laid empty for the last 4 years. So housing development isn't on the up around here as no one wants them. But rurally around here, there are bits.

Yeah, being in this hobby I could really do with moving up north TBH  I do envy all the people up there who have acres of accessible public open countryside literally on their doorstep. All the properties on the new developments around here sell like hot cakes before the foundations have even been built. I remember when this town used to be a nice smallish quiet place to live. In the last 15-20 years it has literally doubled in size with the juggernaut that is the greedy property developers still ploughing on with nothing to stop them from continuing to destroy what was once nice green countryside with a sea of red brick buildings.

For now I guess I will just have to continue taking my chances where I fly and quickly hide in the bushes if I see anyone in my FPV feed coming in my direction 

Hi, let me ask what are your telemetry values with this ceramic antenna, I mean RSSI dBm and RSNR, maybe even TPWR, let it fit together. Thank you very much.

I’m seriously thinking of jumping on the ELRS wagon for the technology is on the cutting edge and if there’s anything pilots want added that’s popular and possible it’s done very quickly.
Also the quad and FPV equipment manufacturers are already integrating ELRS into their new releases.
 There’s plenty of receivers available to keep prices down and quality high.
  

 I don’t care for plug in module antenna location but tweetyfpv just made a hack for mounting ELRS into FrSky radios.
 I may have to add one to my taranis 9XD using tweetyfpv method.
 


 

(06-Jun-2022, 06:11 AM)psicho100pro Wrote: Hi, let me ask what are your telemetry values with this ceramic antenna, I mean RSSI dBm and RSNR, maybe even TPWR, let it fit together. Thank you very much.

I haven't installed the ceramic antenna ELRS receiver on anything yet. It's still in the packet. My intention (when I get round to it) is to install it somewhere under the canopy of my Eachine Trashcan.

(06-Jun-2022, 06:47 AM)Rob3ddd Wrote: I’m seriously thinking of jumping on the ELRS wagon for the technology is on the cutting edge and if there’s anything pilots want added that’s popular and possible it’s done very quickly.
Also the quad and FPV equipment manufacturers are already integrating ELRS into their new releases.
 There’s plenty of receivers available to keep prices down and quality high.
  

 I don’t care for plug in module antenna location but tweetyfpv just made a hack for mounting ELRS into FrSky radios.
 I may have to add one to my taranis 9XD using tweetyfpv method.

I honestly wouldn't bother with the hassles and risks of trying to put ExpressLRS capabilities inside an X9D. It's a big transmitter and it has a full size JR module bay for a reason. Just stick a reliable already tried and tested module in there and be done with it

I'm sticking with ultra-reliable 900MHz Crossfire on my full size quads which I have 100% trust and confidence in, and which I have absolutely no issues whatsoever with the latency / packet rate it provides. It already has all the features I could ever want, plus more that I never even use. ExpressLRS will be for any of my smaller quads, mainly due to the compact antenna size.

(06-Jun-2022, 06:11 AM)psicho100pro Wrote: Hi, let me ask what are your telemetry values with this ceramic antenna, I mean RSSI dBm and RSNR, maybe even TPWR, let it fit together. Thank you very much.

I ordered the GepRC ELRS Nano SE and will probably have it delivered early next week and will report back what my telemetry values are.

https://geprc.com/product/geprc-elrs-nanose-receiver/

I decided to go for the GepRC version since they have it will documented and hopefully they have better hardware reliability.

I want to rebuild my 1S Babytooth and have a ceramic antenna based ELRS RX on it since I don’t require extra range.

But after placing the order I realized a dumb mistake they made designing the status LED at the bottom of the board 

(06-Jun-2022, 12:27 PM)kafie1980 Wrote: I decided to go for the GepRC version since they have it will documented and hopefully they have better hardware reliability.

I want to rebuild my 1S Babytooth and have a ceramic antenna based ELRS RX on it since I don’t require extra range.

But after placing the order I realized a dumb mistake they made designing the status LED at the bottom of the board 

Hopefully it won't be an issue as long as you heat shrink the receiver and place it strategically. The LEDs are usually bright enough that they will reflect their glow from whatever surface they are mounted on. At least the LED is right near the edge of the circuit board so there's a high chance you will easily see it from the side. I have a Crossfire receiver mounted right under the Air Unit on my GEPRC Mark4 quad where there is only just enough space for the receiver. While not ideal for seeing the receiver status, the illumination of the LED reflects off the body of the Air Unit so while I can't directly see the LED, I can still see what colour/status glow it is producing.