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ecalc help please
#1
i tried to get a route outbof ecalc but on the version without licence i cant get even a close settup Undecided 

someone willing to help me out :-) would be very nice :-)

i like to know the flighttime of a micro:


4rotors
wingspan is 120mm
its 36g
brotherhobby 1103 8000kv
1-2s 5amp 4in1, 6a burst
gemfan 3018 biblades

i like to use a 1500mah 2s (80c - 100g) 
i would like to know how sony vtc 2s would work in comparison

i already flew it on 2s liion, some samsung to low c-rate ones. i got 15min flighttime but the liion recovered to 3,7v after landing..


thanks in advance for any help
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#2
Did someone say eCalc? Wink

I can't find any data for the BH 1103 8000Kv, so I used the Xing Nano X1103 8000Kv. I could also use the T-Motor F1103-8000, but they're a few grams heavier than the Xing's so I figured those would be a better approximation.

First, here are the eCalc numbers for the 100g 2S 1500mAh LiPo:

   

   

And with a 2S Sony VTC6 pack:

   

   


Let me know if you want me to try a different motor or change any parameters. 

https://www.ecalc.ch/xcoptercalc.php?eca...oject=hugs
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#3
awesome, thank you very much v-22 :-)

the results looks promising :-)
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#4
hey v22
i tested it a few times on 1500mah 2s, i got 15min flighttime from my sort of flight. that was about 10k total flightdistance and i did good 2k flightdistance on it. xD much funny experience xD
i thought i might push that little thing to the limit and will loose it, but there came love xD
i would need a good spot to get confortable to extend the flightdistance - or i would need to add a gps and bzzer, maybe some video gear improvements like a helical. i will do a try on liion for sure :-)
such a funny quad, very silent and so tiny - range does make make a lot fun on that size.
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#5
Wow, that's great! Good to see the eCalc numbers are still fairly conservative (or the BH motors are very efficientSmile ).

What FC? If you have the UARTs for a GPS that would be great to have!

Looking forward to your Li-ion testing! GetFPV has the VTC6 in stock, although they are about 50% more than the last time I bought them: https://www.getfpv.com/sony-vtc6-18650-3...-2pcs.html
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#6
https://intofpv.com/t-gps-tx-rx
its a happymodel f405 from the super_s stack. there are no spare pads for a full uart, i would need to solder it directly to the mcu.

i have a lightweight gps from my gopro hero6, form factor is bad, it would give a lot more surface Undecided

i saw two small fullspeedrc/namelessrc gps in my buddies box, they would be more lightweight and give less surface - not sure how good they truly work Undecided oscars review doesnt look bad about it.
i might ask him for one to give it a try.

(the only true downside on it is ability to fight against wind :-) i didnt care enough on my latest flight, i thought its sideway wind, i had a much longer way back home :-)

im in europe, funny thing the best availability and on low price sony vtc6 is where they sell e-cigarettes :-) i should buy them soon.


edit: the brotherhobby seems one of the best about power and efficiency according to that test, sadly its a bit a different rotorcombination. data is rare Undecided
there is more than one vid about it:
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#7
i discovered another issue about gps and the buzzer from fulspeedrc.
i get into trouble on the 5v regulater when i reached low voltage, there is just an 0.5a output. i have less clean video, but nice the unify nano pro32 can handle up to 13v :-)

http://www.fullspeedrc.com/luckyboxbuzzer_p0174.html
http://www.fullspeedrc.com/nlrcgps_p0245.html

they would be +5.3g from the description, more than 10% of the buildweight Undecided
runcam nano4, crsd nanorx are on the 5v circuit, additional gps and batterysupported buzzer might be to much for 0.5v regulator Undecided
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