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I have recently built my first 3" quad, I have only flew it a few times LOS as I'm waiting for my VRX to arrive. Anyway I really enjoyed building it and getting everything working, now I'd like to have a go a building something I can fly around the house.
I'd like something like a Mobula 7 or Trashcan, are there any kits or can I get everything I need to make my own?
I did take a look at the Storm Loki X16, and add some prop guards to it but I think it still may cause damage to my house if I had an 'accident', it's heavier and not made of plastic like the others seem to be. What do you guys think?
Thank you ![[-]](https://intofpv.com/images/collapse.png) • Posts: 21,400 Threads: 594 Likes Received: 9,029 in 6,683 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 795 "or can I get everything I need to make my own?" ^^^ Exactly this. Just like the bigger quads, everything whoops are made from are available as separate parts so you just need to pick a whoop frame, something like a Crazy Bee FC, compatible motors / props, and a camera. Then you are good to go  • Posts: 3,288 Threads: 129 Likes Received: 2,740 in 1,644 posts Likes Given: 2,969 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 65 When I finally started really flying, it was with a Tiny Whoop that I bought pre-assembled. It was not too long before things started to require replacement. I found that every part was available and so I built one from scratch after repairing the Eachine E010S that I had originally bought.
This is actually what prompted me to build my own, the availability of everything.
The Whoops, whether 65mm or 90mm are pretty simple.
Frame
FC
Motors
AIO camera
Batteries.
Even the little 65mm 1S ones would be really fun indoors. Slow enough to make a house feel big and fast enough to keep it real. I found quickly that a house starts to feel very confined if the Whoop is too hot. SoCal Kaity :D
OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun! Addicted :) • Posts: 17 Threads: 3 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Dec 2018 Reputation: 0 (08-Jan-2019, 01:03 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: "or can I get everything I need to make my own?"
^^^ Exactly this. Just like the bigger quads, everything whoops are made from are available as separate parts so you just need to pick a whoop frame, something like a Crazy Bee FC, compatible motors / props, and a camera. Then you are good to go I thought so, I just haven't had to time to search for parts yet, I'd much prefer to build myself. (08-Jan-2019, 02:34 PM)kaitylynn Wrote: When I finally started really flying, it was with a Tiny Whoop that I bought pre-assembled. It was not too long before things started to require replacement. I found that every part was available and so I built one from scratch after repairing the Eachine E010S that I had originally bought.
This is actually what prompted me to build my own, the availability of everything.
The Whoops, whether 65mm or 90mm are pretty simple.
Frame
FC
Motors
AIO camera
Batteries.
Even the little 65mm 1S ones would be really fun indoors. Slow enough to make a house feel big and fast enough to keep it real. I found quickly that a house starts to feel very confined if the Whoop is too hot. I see your point, you can have too much of a good thing sometimes. My house isn't exactly big, I think I'd have move fun flying a 'slower' quad full speed than a fast quad at 'slower' speed. Being able to fly full speed and not worry about wrecking the house is good too. Do you guys have any opinion on the Loki X16? My only thoughts are that its quite heavy. Should I sway to the Mobula/Trashcan style? Thanks • Posts: 12,098 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 Looks pretty nice. You probably will need props guards for indoor. • Posts: 17 Threads: 3 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Dec 2018 Reputation: 0 (08-Jan-2019, 09:22 PM)voodoo614 Wrote: Looks pretty nice. You probably will need props guards for indoor. Yeah I think so too, especially with my flying!  I've been looking at the Trashcan, I was thinking maybe go for one of these. If I bought the 'no receiver' version, can I add an LBT FrSky receiver? Looking here... http://www.multirotorguide.com/news/craz...th-f4-mcu/ I just use the +5 for power and the IRX1 for SBUS? Thanks • Posts: 21,400 Threads: 594 Likes Received: 9,029 in 6,683 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 795 09-Jan-2019, 04:38 PM (This post was last modified: 09-Jan-2019, 04:39 PM by SnowLeopardFPV.) (09-Jan-2019, 03:39 PM)MartynB85 Wrote: I've been looking at the Trashcan, I was thinking maybe go for one of these. If I bought the 'no receiver' version, can I add an LBT FrSky receiver? Just get the Non-EU FrSky version and bind it in D8 mode. That's the version I've got coming and I'm in the EU I've already done exactly the same with my non-EU FrSky version of the Eachine UK65 and it works perfectly fine like that. You just need to make sure you install the non-EU version of the OpenTX firmware on your Taranis but that's as simple as just unticking an "EU" box when you perform the procedure to flash OpenTX firmware to it. Doing that enables/unlocks D8 mode on EU-LBT versions of the Taranis. Adding a standalone receiver is extra unnecessary expense and weight IMO, unless you really need the extra range that a built-in receiver won't offer you. • Posts: 17 Threads: 3 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Dec 2018 Reputation: 0 That's interesting. If I install the non-EU FW to my x7s I can bind to non EU-LBT receivers? Can I continue to use my EU-LBT R-XSR that is already binded too?
Are there any drawbacks with installing the non EU FW to my TX?
Change of plan now, I think I'm just going to get a Mobula. They are the only 1-2s whoops that I can find that are available to buy from UK stock, I feel really impatient and if I order before 3 today I should be flying on the weekend! • Posts: 21,400 Threads: 594 Likes Received: 9,029 in 6,683 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 795 10-Jan-2019, 02:45 PM (This post was last modified: 10-Jan-2019, 02:52 PM by SnowLeopardFPV. Edit Reason: Typo corrections. ) (10-Jan-2019, 01:56 PM)MartynB85 Wrote: If I install the non-EU FW to my x7s I can bind to non EU-LBT receivers? Yes, I'm doing exactly that with mine.
Can I continue to use my EU-LBT R-XSR that is already binded too? Yes, I'm doing exactly that with mine.
Are there any drawbacks with installing the non EU FW to my TX? No, none that I'm aware of or have experienced. The simple answers are above in red A more detailed explanation is below. It should be noted that I have an X9D+ transmitter and not a X7S but they both operate on exactly the same hardware/software architecture. The Taranis radio transmitters have two firmwares in them - one firmware in the internal XJT module which is used to do the actual radio transmissions on the 2.4GHz frequency band, and another firmware for the actual operating system of the Taranis (which in this case is OpenTX). If you flash your Taranis with a new / different version of OpenTX, this will not touch the firmware in the internal XJT module which will continue to have EU-LBT firmware installed in it. By flashing non-EU version of OpenTX to your Taranis you are only affecting the firmware version / type of the operating system. Once you have non-EU version of OpenTX on your Taranis, it simple "unlocks" and makes available the binding protocols that manufacturers who are selling their equipment in the EU are not allowed to make available from the factory due to EU laws. The law only applies to the point-of-supply goods in order for them to be deemed CE compliant. As a consumer, you are not breaking any laws by unlocking the D8 mode yourself. It's just that the manufacturer isn't allowed to do that before they sending their products to suppliers in your region. You then just set up individual models as you normally would in the Taranis. When you choose the protocol you want to use for binding that model, with the non-EU version of OpenTX installed, you will see the option to select D8 as a mode in addition to the usual EU D16 and LR12 modes. • Posts: 17 Threads: 3 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Dec 2018 Reputation: 0 (10-Jan-2019, 02:45 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: The simple answers are above in red A more detailed explanation is below.
It should be noted that I have an X9D+ transmitter and not a X7S but they both operate on exactly the same hardware/software architecture.
The Taranis radio transmitters have two firmwares in them - one firmware in the internal XJT module which is used to do the actual radio transmissions on the 2.4GHz frequency band, and another firmware for the actual operating system of the Taranis (which in this case is OpenTX).
If you flash your Taranis with a new / different version of OpenTX, this will not touch the firmware in the internal XJT module which will continue to have EU-LBT firmware installed in it. By flashing non-EU version of OpenTX to your Taranis you are only affecting the firmware version / type of the operating system.
Once you have non-EU version of OpenTX on your Taranis, it simple "unlocks" and makes available the binding protocols that manufacturers who are selling their equipment in the EU are not allowed to make available from the factory due to EU laws. The law only applies to the point-of-supply goods in order for them to be deemed CE compliant. As a consumer, you are not breaking any laws by unlocking the D8 mode yourself. It's just that the manufacturer isn't allowed to do that before they sending their products to suppliers in your region.
You then just set up individual models as you normally would in the Taranis. When you choose the protocol you want to use for binding that model, with the non-EU version of OpenTX installed, you will see the option to select D8 as a mode in addition to the usual EU D16 and LR12 modes. You my friend, are a gent! Thank you for taking the time to explain, I was reading through a massive thread on rc groups but you have explained everything I needed! Lastnight I flashed my x7s to 2.2.3, unticking 'eu', worked like a charm. D8 is now there, and my Loki in D16 still works! I'm just waiting for my Mobula to arrive now. • Posts: 21,400 Threads: 594 Likes Received: 9,029 in 6,683 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 795 No problem Out of interest, which supplier did you order your Mobula7 from in the UK? It will be good to know if it comes with a V1 or V2 frame when you get it. • Posts: 17 Threads: 3 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Dec 2018 Reputation: 0 I ordered from 'Unmanned Tech', they seem pretty good, I bought an OwlRC module and some antenna's from them last week. My Modula delivery was 'attempted' this morning so looks like I won't get that until tomorrow now  I did message them yesterday to ask what the frame version was but I haven't had a response yet, I ordered a spare v2 frame with it anyway as it was only £3. Is there an 'upgraded' BB2 esc for the Mobula? I saw this during my search... • Posts: 21,400 Threads: 594 Likes Received: 9,029 in 6,683 posts Likes Given: 1,428 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 795 (11-Jan-2019, 12:31 PM)MartynB85 Wrote: Is there an 'upgraded' BB2 esc for the Mobula? I saw this during my search... The Mobula7 uses the CrazyBee F3 "Pro" FC which is a pretty new FC. I don't know for sure but I would be surprised if that board was ever manufactured with BB1 ESCs. I think they just use the "with upgraded BB2 ESCs" statement as sales patter, as in it's an upgrade from other/older (i.e. non Pro) boards, some of which may or may not have used BB1 ESCs. • Posts: 17 Threads: 3 Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Dec 2018 Reputation: 0 (11-Jan-2019, 12:41 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: The Mobula7 uses the CrazyBee F3 "Pro" FC which is a pretty new FC. I don't know for sure but I would be surprised if that board was ever manufactured with BB1 ESCs. I think they just use the "with upgraded BB2 ESCs" statement as sales patter, as in it's an upgrade from other/older (i.e. non Pro) boards, some of which may or may not have used BB1 ESCs. Yeah I think you are right, there's probably no difference. I would like a little UK65 no too, this hobby gets expensive!  • |
